I made an Adirondack chair from WRC. It looks ok. SWMBO thinks it looks
good too.

Stuck it out on the deck and admired it for a while, then my mind moved
on to other things. But SWMBO brought my mind back to it. "What are you
going to finish it with?"

"Uhm, I like the weathered look that cedar gets after a year or so," was
my reply.

"After all that time and effort, not to mention the materials cost,
you're going to let it WEATHER?!?"

Sigh.

This is the same woman that sends me out to falling down barns to
specifically rip off weathered barn board for her projects. If I come
back with wood that isn't weathered, it goes into the fire.

I"m not a guy who attaches great significance to maintenance projects.
AAMOF, I'd be more than happy to have Astro turf for my lawn so I didn't
have to cut it. Gazing into the future brings me more chairs on the deck
that all need to be finished, if I want to keep the butter on the right
side of my bread.

So I'm stuck. Let the chair weather and then have to weather another
storm, or keep her happy and finish it.

Spar seems to be the thing that most of you recommend. I'm thinking if I
can get 3 years out of spar, I may be ok. And I'm probably dreamin in
technicolor too.

Any other suggestions?

Thx

Tanus

I like a product made by the Sikkens company called Cetol. This has lasted
better than spa varnish for my use.

I used this for a side light for the front door I made from mahogany. Looks
the same as the day it was installed about 3 years ago. This is vertical
and does not get much sun, but it gets its fair share of rain and snow
exposure.

Cetol needs to be applied carefully. Easier for a chair than a deck.

It is a oil type finish. It contains dyes as well as UV inhibitors so it
will darken the wood. Looked great on the mahogany.

Dave Paine.

"Tanus" wrote in message ...
I made an Adirondack chair from WRC. It looks ok. SWMBO thinks it looks
good too.

Stuck it out on the deck and admired it for a while, then my mind moved on
to other things. But SWMBO brought my mind back to it. "What are you going
to finish it with?"

"Uhm, I like the weathered look that cedar gets after a year or so," was
my reply.

"After all that time and effort, not to mention the materials cost, you're
going to let it WEATHER?!?"

Sigh.

This is the same woman that sends me out to falling down barns to
specifically rip off weathered barn board for her projects. If I come back
with wood that isn't weathered, it goes into the fire.

I"m not a guy who attaches great significance to maintenance projects.
AAMOF, I'd be more than happy to have Astro turf for my lawn so I didn't
have to cut it. Gazing into the future brings me more chairs on the deck
that all need to be finished, if I want to keep the butter on the right
side of my bread.

So I'm stuck. Let the chair weather and then have to weather another
storm, or keep her happy and finish it.

Spar seems to be the thing that most of you recommend. I'm thinking if I
can get 3 years out of spar, I may be ok. And I'm probably dreamin in
technicolor too.

Any other suggestions?

Thx

Tanus

Tanus wrote:
I made an Adirondack chair from WRC. It looks ok. SWMBO thinks it looks
good too.


Any other suggestions?

Olympic Maximum - Cedar Tint.

It's an oil, nothing to peel or strip later. Apply ONE COAT, sparingly.
I spray with an HVLP, and go away for two years. Do not apply more,
do not soak the item, etc... as it won't dry. As there is no film, the
product leaves a more natural look, the oil protects the color.

The "clear" version does not contain the UV protection contained in the
cedar pigment.

Tanus wrote:
I made an Adirondack chair from WRC. It looks ok. SWMBO thinks it looks
good too.

Stuck it out on the deck and admired it for a while, then my mind moved
on to other things. But SWMBO brought my mind back to it. "What are you
going to finish it with?"

"Uhm, I like the weathered look that cedar gets after a year or so," was
my reply.

"After all that time and effort, not to mention the materials cost,
you're going to let it WEATHER?!?"

Sigh.

This is the same woman that sends me out to falling down barns to
specifically rip off weathered barn board for her projects. If I come
back with wood that isn't weathered, it goes into the fire.

I"m not a guy who attaches great significance to maintenance projects.
AAMOF, I'd be more than happy to have Astro turf for my lawn so I didn't
have to cut it. Gazing into the future brings me more chairs on the deck
that all need to be finished, if I want to keep the butter on the right
side of my bread.

So I'm stuck. Let the chair weather and then have to weather another
storm, or keep her happy and finish it.

Spar seems to be the thing that most of you recommend. I'm thinking if I
can get 3 years out of spar, I may be ok. And I'm probably dreamin in
technicolor too.

Any other suggestions?

Thx

Tanus

Thompson Water Seal or brand of your choice.

Load it in a garden sprayer and hit all the patio furniture in mid-May.
Takes about 30 minutes effort and I'm done "maintaining" patio
stuff for the year.

It does darken the wood and allows some weathering. Next year hit it
with deck wash, let dry and water seal again.

I've never had good luck painting or varnishing outdoor items, cracks
and such suck in the water ruining whatever finish I've used. Hours of
sanding to refinish the item again is not my idea of fun.

--
Bill B.

http://home.comcast.net/~bberg100

"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid
in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly
proclaiming, 'WOW! What A RIDE!!" ... Unknown

I may be wrong about this but I believe I have read that the best way
to prevent outdoor items from weathering is to paint it with regular
paint with no tinting. Just the un-tinted "base". It has all the UV
protection already in it and dries clear. Don't recall whether latex
or oil base is best but you can probably find out using google.

"Mike in Arkansas" wrote in message
...
I may be wrong about this but I believe I have read that the best way
to prevent outdoor items from weathering is to paint it with regular
paint with no tinting. Just the un-tinted "base". It has all the UV
protection already in it and dries clear. Don't recall whether latex
or oil base is best but you can probably find out using google.


In my case I have tried every things, the best thing is no coating at all.
I let the cedar as it is. Every year I wash it with Muphy's soap (or it
equilvatent) and light sprayed water.
So far after 15 years the cedar is looking fine and in good condition.

I asked this same question about two weeks ago and the response was not to
finish at all or to finish with a oil finish like watco primer sealer.I
choose to put the oil on ,it darkened the cedar but it looks good .it has
the advantage that the finish will slowly erode and not flake off and cause
me any more work(I'm like you, after it is finished I do not want to have to
maintain it.)



Leonard

On Jun 29, 8:59*am, Tanus wrote:
I made an Adirondack chair from WRC. It looks ok. SWMBO thinks it looks
good too.

Stuck it out on the deck and admired it for a while, then my mind moved
on to other things. But SWMBO brought my mind back to it. "What are you
going to finish it with?"

"Uhm, I like the weathered look that cedar gets after a year or so," was
my reply.

"After all that time and effort, not to mention the materials cost,
you're going to let it WEATHER?!?"

Sigh.

This is the same woman that sends me out to falling down barns to
specifically rip off weathered barn board for her projects. If I come
back with wood that isn't weathered, it goes into the fire.

I"m not a guy who attaches great significance to maintenance projects.
AAMOF, I'd be more than happy to have Astro turf for my lawn so I didn't
have to cut it. Gazing into the future brings me more chairs on the deck
that all need to be finished, if I want to keep the butter on the right
side of my bread.

So I'm stuck. Let the chair weather and then have to weather another
storm, or keep her happy and finish it.

Spar seems to be the thing that most of you recommend. I'm thinking if I
can get 3 years out of spar, I may be ok. And I'm probably dreamin in
technicolor too.

Any other suggestions?

Thx

Tanus

I built a sun filter for my parents' patio some 20+ years ago. 1 x 6
and 2 x 4 lattice, extending some 20 x 40 feet on the south side of
the house. I dipped the end grain on all cedar in a pail of Penetrol
and after I assembled the whole thing, I coated the entire filter in
Penetrol once again with a brush. After 5 years, the tips of the beams
were still golden as was the rest of the filter.
20 years later, you can still see the tips having a slightly more
natural colour than the rest of the lattice.
I also coated a cedar adirondac and after 15+ years still looks great.
A local doctor, after having seen this sun filter, had his cedar board
and batten cottage done entirely with Penetrol. His cottage had
already weathered some, but the Penetrol brought it back, rejuvenated,
to almost new wood colour. 10 years later he had another application
done and still looks wonderful 5 years after that.
A tech at Flood, when asked, volunteered just enough info for it all
to make sense.... it is really "just highly distilled linseed oil."
(You didn't hear this from me. btw.) G

Here's a product, marketed as an additive to give oil-based paint
'legs' and yet it has a secret life as well..... and you know I
wouldn't **** you, Tanus, because you know where I live. LOL

r

Robatoy wrote:


I built a sun filter for my parents' patio some 20+ years ago. 1 x 6
and 2 x 4 lattice, extending some 20 x 40 feet on the south side of
the house. I dipped the end grain on all cedar in a pail of Penetrol
and after I assembled the whole thing, I coated the entire filter in
Penetrol once again with a brush. After 5 years, the tips of the beams
were still golden as was the rest of the filter.
20 years later, you can still see the tips having a slightly more
natural colour than the rest of the lattice.
I also coated a cedar adirondac and after 15+ years still looks great.
A local doctor, after having seen this sun filter, had his cedar board
and batten cottage done entirely with Penetrol. His cottage had
already weathered some, but the Penetrol brought it back, rejuvenated,
to almost new wood colour. 10 years later he had another application
done and still looks wonderful 5 years after that.
A tech at Flood, when asked, volunteered just enough info for it all
to make sense.... it is really "just highly distilled linseed oil."
(You didn't hear this from me. btw.) G

Here's a product, marketed as an additive to give oil-based paint
'legs' and yet it has a secret life as well..... and you know I
wouldn't **** you, Tanus, because you know where I live. LOL

r

Hehe, I don't really. I know the town you live in and was there last
week, but I'd be hard pressed to sit at the end of your driveway to let
you know if you steered me wrong. Academic, however. I know you wouldn't.

I'll try the Penetrol if I can find it. I did a mini-search yesterday
and couldn't find a distributor but I'll do some phoning around today.
Where I live, the local suppliers actually close on Sundays. What I did
find was Cetol, recommended by David Paine, and that may be my backup.

BARRY, BillB, Mike, Denis and Leonard all took the time to answer my
question and gave me more food for thought. Thanks guys.

Tanus

Upscale wrote:
"Tanus" wrote in message ...
and couldn't find a distributor but I'll do some phoning around today.
Where I live, the local suppliers actually close on Sundays. What I did
find was Cetol, recommended by David Paine, and that may be my backup.

http://www.flood.com/Flood/CustomerS...netrol+FAQ.htm

http://www.flood.com/flood/StoreLocator/



Thanks Upscale. I'd tried that, but ended up with only NY state
distributors within 100 mi. of Ottawa. They also mentioned Home Hardware
(that's the one closed on Sundays). I'lll give them a shout today.

Tanus

"Tanus" wrote in message ...
and couldn't find a distributor but I'll do some phoning around today.
Where I live, the local suppliers actually close on Sundays. What I did
find was Cetol, recommended by David Paine, and that may be my backup.

http://www.flood.com/Flood/CustomerS...netrol+FAQ.htm

http://www.flood.com/flood/StoreLocator/

"Tanus" wrote

Robatoy wrote:

Here's a product, marketed as an additive to give oil-based paint
'legs' and yet it has a secret life as well..... and you know I
wouldn't **** you, Tanus, because you know where I live. LOL

Hehe, I don't really. I know the town you live in and was there last week,
but I'd be hard pressed to sit at the end of your driveway to let you know
if you steered me wrong.

Just look for the small groups of gnomes carrying counter tops.

On Jun 30, 9:54*am, "Lee Michaels" wrote:
"Tanus" wrote

Robatoy wrote:

Here's a product, marketed as an additive to give oil-based paint
'legs' and yet it has a secret life as well..... and you know I
wouldn't **** you, Tanus, because you know where I live. LOL

Hehe, I don't really. I know the town you live in and was there last week,
but I'd be hard pressed to sit at the end of your driveway to let you know
if you steered me wrong.

Just look for the small groups of gnomes carrying counter tops.

They all quit and are now working for Travelocity. I DO have a 200
pound 6'4" Scotsman who would like to have a word with you. And two
crazies on dirt bikes who haven't figured out that they're mortal like
the rest of us.
And if the four of us can't handle you, there's always Angela. G

Robatoy wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:54 am, "Lee Michaels" wrote:
"Tanus" wrote

Robatoy wrote:
Here's a product, marketed as an additive to give oil-based paint
'legs' and yet it has a secret life as well..... and you know I
wouldn't **** you, Tanus, because you know where I live. LOL
Hehe, I don't really. I know the town you live in and was there last week,
but I'd be hard pressed to sit at the end of your driveway to let you know
if you steered me wrong.
Just look for the small groups of gnomes carrying counter tops.

They all quit and are now working for Travelocity. I DO have a 200
pound 6'4" Scotsman who would like to have a word with you. And two
crazies on dirt bikes who haven't figured out that they're mortal like
the rest of us.
And if the four of us can't handle you, there's always Angela. G

She sounds lovely. However, she's been married to you for a bit, so i
expect she can also chew me up and spit me out without breaking a drop
of perspiration.

I found the Pentrol. Home Hardware can order it in for me, and I'll give
it a try.

It poured last nite. The lake came up so high that part of my dock is
floating. When I got up, the chair was soaked and had a wonderful sheen
to it. I doubt that the Pentrol will look like that once it's dry but
now that I'm coming round to it, I think I like having the cedar look
for some time to come. Thanks for the tip.

Tanus