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Old November 16th 03, 09:52 PM
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I used the oil-based original Kilz to block some water damage to my
popcorn textured ceiling. Then I repainted with a flat finish ceiling
paint but the area where I used the Kilz is very glossy whilst the
rest is flat (as it was supposed to be). Anyone got any ideas about
how to proceed to flatten the gloss? I'll redo the ceiling if I have
to but I don't want a glossy ceiling.

Agkistrodon

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Old November 16th 03, 10:20 PM
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When I lived in Tucson I had a painter do my popcorn ceilings.
As I watched him scrape off the stained popcorn I asked him
why he just didn't seal it with Kilz. He told me that Kilz would
seal the pores in the popcorn and the final texture of the paint
would never match the unsealed stuff. I guess he was right.
He shot new popcorn where the stained stuff had been and the
final painted result was undetectable from the old popcorn areas.

You may need to scrape, re-popcorn, and repaint your offending
areas to get the match you want.

Art

"Agkistrodon" wrote in message
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I used the oil-based original Kilz to block some water damage to my
popcorn textured ceiling. Then I repainted with a flat finish ceiling
paint but the area where I used the Kilz is very glossy whilst the
rest is flat (as it was supposed to be). Anyone got any ideas about
how to proceed to flatten the gloss? I'll redo the ceiling if I have
to but I don't want a glossy ceiling.

Agkistrodon



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Old November 17th 03, 12:24 AM
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"Agkistrodon" wrote in message
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Anyone got any ideas about
how to proceed to flatten the gloss? I'll redo the ceiling if I have
to but I don't want a glossy ceiling.


Step one: get rid of the popcorn.

Put Kilz on the damaged spot if needed, then paint the entire ceiling with a
good ceiling paint and it will look much better and cleaner.
Ed

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Old November 17th 03, 02:30 AM
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Popcorn, or any other texture, is used to cover up the poor quality of
the job done by the dry wall contractor. A good contractor can produce
a smooth flat surface. A lousy one uses pop corn, or some other texture
to hide his mistakes.

B

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
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Anyone got any ideas about
how to proceed to flatten the gloss? I'll redo the ceiling if I have
to but I don't want a glossy ceiling.



Step one: get rid of the popcorn.

Put Kilz on the damaged spot if needed, then paint the entire ceiling with a
good ceiling paint and it will look much better and cleaner.
Ed

http://pages.cthome.net/edhome




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Old November 17th 03, 03:28 AM
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Popcorn, or any other texture, is used to cover up the poor quality of
the job done by the dry wall contractor. A good contractor can produce
a smooth flat surface. A lousy one uses pop corn, or some other texture
to hide his mistakes.


My ceilings were perfect under the popcorn. YMMV A few nicks from scraping
had to be spackled in the first room, then we got better at removing it. I
have no idea why people like the stuff. It is very difficult to paint. The
only benefit is that it will diffuse harsh light. They even had that crap
in our kitchen and the dining room with crown molding.




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Old November 17th 03, 10:45 AM
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Ed Pawlowski responds:

My ceilings were perfect under the popcorn. YMMV A few nicks from scraping
had to be spackled in the first room, then we got better at removing it. I
have no idea why people like the stuff. It is very difficult to paint. The
only benefit is that it will diffuse harsh light. They even had that crap
in our kitchen and the dining room with crown molding.


Hey, a lot of the time, they turn up the taste knob and add glitter.

Charlie Self
"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use
our power the greater it will be." Thomas Jefferson
















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Old November 17th 03, 11:53 AM
B a r r y B u r k e J r .
 
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 02:30:41 GMT, EL wrote:

A lousy one uses pop corn, or some other texture
to hide his mistakes.


Or a contractor hired by a cheap general contractor.

I know top-notch drywall guys who also do popcorn, just like my local
liquor store sells microbrews and Pabst. You payz your money... G

Barry
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Old November 17th 03, 11:57 AM
B a r r y B u r k e J r .
 
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 03:28:07 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


My ceilings were perfect under the popcorn.


You're lucky. My experience has shown that popcorn is usually used to
save the labor cost of the later coats of mud. One coat with the
tape, poof with the popcorn machine, and on to the next job.

If the money is spent to get a great surface, spending even more on
popcorn is a waste.

Barry
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Old November 17th 03, 01:35 PM
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"EL" wrote in message
ink.net...
Popcorn, or any other texture, is used to cover up the poor quality of
the job done by the dry wall contractor. A good contractor can produce
a smooth flat surface. A lousy one uses pop corn, or some other texture
to hide his mistakes.



Um perhaps but also to add a little texture to a boring ceiling and to add a
bit of sound absorption.




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