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charlie b October 12th 03 11:28 PM

Great Rocking Chair Maker URL
 
Found this guy's site in some round about way. He specializes
in rocking chairs If you like Maloof's rockers you'll like
Hal's rockers. He has a set of plans for four or five size
rockers - $275 but they'd save you that much in wood wasted
doing Trial and Error.

http://www.haltaylor.com/chairs.htm

If you like sculpted pieces check this one out. You can also
spend a week in his shop - for $800. Probably worth it.

charlie b

(not affiliated in any way with Hal Taylor).

Edwin Pawlowski October 13th 03 12:19 AM

Great Rocking Chair Maker URL
 

"charlie b" wrote in message
...
Found this guy's site in some round about way. He specializes
in rocking chairs If you like Maloof's rockers you'll like
Hal's rockers. He has a set of plans for four or five size
rockers - $275 but they'd save you that much in wood wasted
doing Trial and Error.

http://www.haltaylor.com/chairs.htm


Very impressive work. I have to admire someone that can make a career of a
high priced item and enjoy doing it. It would be nice to spend a week in
his shop making your own chair.

The fact that lead time can reach 35 weeks says there is a market for
quality furniture.
Ed

http://pages.cthome.net/edhome




joe October 13th 03 07:10 AM

Great Rocking Chair Maker URL
 
thanks for the tip HAL


"charlie b" wrote in message
...
Found this guy's site in some round about way. He specializes
in rocking chairs If you like Maloof's rockers you'll like
Hal's rockers. He has a set of plans for four or five size
rockers - $275 but they'd save you that much in wood wasted
doing Trial and Error.

http://www.haltaylor.com/chairs.htm

If you like sculpted pieces check this one out. You can also
spend a week in his shop - for $800. Probably worth it.

charlie b

(not affiliated in any way with Hal Taylor).




George October 13th 03 02:59 PM

Great Rocking Chair Maker URL
 
Uh, Ed, that's not quality being charged, but rarity. Daresay the
customer's butt would be as well and long supported by rockers costing much
less.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
om...


Very impressive work. I have to admire someone that can make a career of

a
high priced item and enjoy doing it. It would be nice to spend a week in
his shop making your own chair.

The fact that lead time can reach 35 weeks says there is a market for
quality furniture.
Ed




Lazarus Long October 13th 03 03:58 PM

Great Rocking Chair Maker URL
 
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 06:10:00 GMT, "joe" wrote:

thanks for the tip HAL



I doubt that charlie b is actually the Hal in haltaylor.com I saw
that website quite some time ago and was equally impressed. Charlie b
is simply blown away by it and wants to share.

TomL October 13th 03 05:47 PM

Great Rocking Chair Maker URL
 
Great site. Good inspiration. Wonder if it would be worth the $275 to
buy the book and plans..........?

Thanks, charlie.
TomL

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:28:40 -0800, charlie b
wrote:

Found this guy's site in some round about way. He specializes
in rocking chairs If you like Maloof's rockers you'll like
Hal's rockers. He has a set of plans for four or five size
rockers - $275 but they'd save you that much in wood wasted
doing Trial and Error.

http://www.haltaylor.com/chairs.htm

If you like sculpted pieces check this one out. You can also
spend a week in his shop - for $800. Probably worth it.

charlie b

(not affiliated in any way with Hal Taylor).



Chris October 13th 03 07:18 PM

Great Rocking Chair Maker URL
 
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message . com...
Very impressive work. I have to admire someone that can make a career of a
high priced item and enjoy doing it. It would be nice to spend a week in
his shop making your own chair.

The fact that lead time can reach 35 weeks says there is a market for
quality furniture.
Ed

http://pages.cthome.net/edhome


Read the rest of his website. He hasn't made a career of this, he was
an engineer who used to make musical instruments as a hobby. I am
guessing that his rocking chair making grew from his woodworking in
musical instruments.

Let see, 200+ chairs at $5000 and up equals a cool 1 million plus.
Add 100+ plans at $275, selling workshop time, etc, he probably made
another 50G pocket change. Nice hobby!

-Chris

YesMaam27577 October 13th 03 09:42 PM

Great Rocking Chair Maker URL
 
Just this past weekend, at a seminar in Atlanta, Sam Maloof clearly
stated that he is irritated by those that make money using his
designs. He prefers not to waste time tracking down the violators, but
it bothers him just the same.

So, although I was also impressed with haltaylor.com, I won't be
spending any money there. I'll do what Sam did -- keep trying
something new, until I come up with something that works.




charlie b wrote in message ...
Found this guy's site in some round about way. He specializes
in rocking chairs If you like Maloof's rockers you'll like
Hal's rockers. He has a set of plans for four or five size
rockers - $275 but they'd save you that much in wood wasted
doing Trial and Error.

http://www.haltaylor.com/chairs.htm

If you like sculpted pieces check this one out. You can also
spend a week in his shop - for $800. Probably worth it.

charlie b

(not affiliated in any way with Hal Taylor).


BRuce October 13th 03 10:14 PM

Great Rocking Chair Maker URL
 
I can see some resemblance but I don't think that anyone has a "lock" on
"a rocking chair with flairs and sweeping curves...". I see Maloof's
inspiration there but not an outright copy. there are several different
styles and many sizes. If I could work wood that well or as well as Mr.
Maloof, I too would quit my day job.

Bruce

YesMaam27577 wrote:

Just this past weekend, at a seminar in Atlanta, Sam Maloof clearly
stated that he is irritated by those that make money using his
designs. He prefers not to waste time tracking down the violators, but
it bothers him just the same.

So, although I was also impressed with haltaylor.com, I won't be
spending any money there. I'll do what Sam did -- keep trying
something new, until I come up with something that works.




charlie b wrote in message ...

Found this guy's site in some round about way. He specializes
in rocking chairs If you like Maloof's rockers you'll like
Hal's rockers. He has a set of plans for four or five size
rockers - $275 but they'd save you that much in wood wasted
doing Trial and Error.

http://www.haltaylor.com/chairs.htm

If you like sculpted pieces check this one out. You can also
spend a week in his shop - for $800. Probably worth it.

charlie b

(not affiliated in any way with Hal Taylor).


--
---

BRuce


Mark Ohlund October 13th 03 10:17 PM

Great Rocking Chair Maker URL
 
charlie b wrote in message ...
Found this guy's site in some round about way. He specializes
in rocking chairs If you like Maloof's rockers you'll like
Hal's rockers. He has a set of plans for four or five size
rockers - $275 but they'd save you that much in wood wasted
doing Trial and Error.

http://www.haltaylor.com/chairs.htm

If you like sculpted pieces check this one out. You can also
spend a week in his shop - for $800. Probably worth it.

charlie b


Another source of similar rocking chairs is:

http://www.mesquiterocker.com/

Hensarling has the same type of business. He used to sell plans too
but now you have to take a course to get them.

charlie b October 15th 03 02:01 AM

Great Rocking Chair Maker URL
 
Anyone buy Hal's set of plans for five different sizes of
his rocker? The samples of pages of the plans don't
really give much of a feel for the level of detail in
the plans. If they include methods for making the joints
along with full size patterns for $55/chair plans seems
like a good deal. Could save a lot of trial and error
and be a very valuable source of specialized techniques.

As for the similarity to Sam Maloof rockers, the former's
rockers are "s" shaped, Hal's aren't. Hal's front legs/
armrest supports are inward "c's", Maloof's are straighter.
Maloof's seats are very low, Hal's are at a more traditional
height.

I'm sure Hal utilizes some of the joinery Sam Maloof used.
If you study oriental furniture joinery you'll see that
Maloof didn't invent the joining methods he uses.

Bottom line, we all build on the knowledge developed by
others. Occassionaly we think we "create" something new
but a little researching usually shows it's been done
many times before. There is very little new under the
sun.

charlie b

Lazarus Long October 15th 03 02:41 PM

Great Rocking Chair Maker URL
 
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:01:14 -0800, charlie b
wrote:


I'm sure Hal utilizes some of the joinery Sam Maloof used.
If you study oriental furniture joinery you'll see that
Maloof didn't invent the joining methods he uses.

Bottom line, we all build on the knowledge developed by
others. Occassionaly we think we "create" something new
but a little researching usually shows it's been done
many times before. There is very little new under the
sun.

charlie b


This is true, but how close is too close? Maloof or Nakashima or
Krenov all have their look. Which of course is based on learning from
what's been done before. A summing up of the lessons they learned and
a bit of their own contribution.

So when others imitate the Maloof or Krenov style, how close is too
close? I think when the imitation causes one to be confused to the
point of thinking "is it live or Memorex?", that's too close. That
is, the imitator who offers things for sale should add enough of
themselves to avoid the confusion.

If, on the other hand, you want a Maloof rocker for yourself and
you'll only build that one, then sure, knock yourself out. Go for a
100% copy.


charlie b October 16th 03 05:39 AM

Great Rocking Chair Maker URL
 
George wrote:

Uh, Ed, that's not quality being charged, but rarity. Daresay the
customer's butt would be as well and long supported by rockers costing much
less.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message


But I'd be willing to bet a grand or two that none of his chairs
are going to end up in a dump, garage sale or thrift shop - at
least not on purpose. Regardless of its price tag, I'm sure
if something broke or turned loose it would be repaired - not
so for most of what you find in a furniture store.

charlie b

Gary Greenberg October 16th 03 12:44 PM

Great Rocking Chair Maker URL
 
(Chris) wrote:
Read the rest of his website. He hasn't made a career of this, he was
an engineer who used to make musical instruments as a hobby. I am
guessing that his rocking chair making grew from his woodworking in
musical instruments.

Let see, 200+ chairs at $5000 and up equals a cool 1 million plus.
Add 100+ plans at $275, selling workshop time, etc, he probably made
another 50G pocket change. Nice hobby!


Did you forgot the payment he must get for being a Tenryu Gold Medal
blade spokesman. I thought he looks familiar from ads in FWW.
I'd say the man is living right ;-P

Cheers,
Gary


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