Shellac tinting
 

I've read about tinting shellac with analine dyes (transtint). Has
anyone ever tried to tint shellac with an oil stain?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Shellac tinting
 

Chrisgiraffe wrote:

I've read about tinting shellac with analine dyes (transtint). Has
anyone ever tried to tint shellac with an oil stain?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Only if you find one soluble in alcohol. AFAIK, none are.
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Shellac tinting
 

"Chrisgiraffe" wrote in message
ups.com...
I've read about tinting shellac with analine dyes (transtint). Has
anyone ever tried to tint shellac with an oil stain?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Interesting timing. I tinted shellac with transtint for the first time a
few hours ago. Worked fine.

Oil stain sounds like a bad idea, but is easy enough to wipe up a batch and
try it.

Shellac tinting
 

On Oct 11, 3:52 pm, alexy wrote:
Chrisgiraffe wrote:
I've read about tinting shellac with analine dyes (transtint). Has
anyone ever tried to tint shellac with an oil stain?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Only if you find one soluble in alcohol. AFAIK, none are.

Sure there are. The alcohol dyes are old school and have been around
forever.
http://tinyurl.com/3yealw
And the manufacturer's homepage: http://www.wdlockwood.com/main.html

Be aware that the alcohol dyes aren't as light-fast as the water
soluble dyes. It's a good idea to use a finish that has UV protection
so you won't have fading even if it is indoors.

I have to thank you, if I wasn't searching for Lockwood to answer the
question, I wouldn't have found this place: http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com
It's not that far from me, so I'll have to make a visit.

R

Shellac tinting
 

Chrisgiraffe wrote:

I've read about tinting shellac with analine dyes (transtint). Has
anyone ever tried to tint shellac with an oil stain?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.


Transtint dyes are designed to be dissolved in water or alcohol.

Oil and alcohol don't readily mix.

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Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

Shellac tinting
 

Toller wrote:

"Chrisgiraffe" wrote in message
ups.com...

I've read about tinting shellac with analine dyes (transtint). Has
anyone ever tried to tint shellac with an oil stain?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.


Interesting timing. I tinted shellac with transtint for the first time a
few hours ago. Worked fine.

Oil stain sounds like a bad idea, but is easy enough to wipe up a batch and
try it.



....but NOT on your project. ;-)

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Buffalo, NY - USA

Shellac tinting
 

Thu, Oct 11, 2007, 12:47pm (EDT-3) (Chrisgiraffe)
doth sayeth:
I've read about tinting shellac with analine dyes (transtint). Has
anyone ever tried to tint shellac with an oil stain?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

I'd not tint 'any' finish. If I wanted tint I'd tint the whatever.
'Cause sure as anything, I'd have tinted finish left over, then not want
to use it on something else.



JOAT
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"Really? Why not?"
"I don't know, thur. I didn't athk."

Shellac tinting
 

On Oct 11, 3:47 pm, Chrisgiraffe wrote:
I've read about tinting shellac with analine dyes (transtint). Has
anyone ever tried to tint shellac with an oil stain?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

You can tint oil finish with artists' oils, then shellac
over top.

Shellac tinting
 

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:47:25 -0700, Chrisgiraffe
wrote:

I've read about tinting shellac with analine dyes (transtint). Has
anyone ever tried to tint shellac with an oil stain?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Mixol will combine with most any finish, if that is of interest.

http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/ht...lors.htm#mixol

Shellac tinting
 

"Jim Weisgram" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:47:25 -0700, Chrisgiraffe
wrote:

I've read about tinting shellac with analine dyes (transtint). Has
anyone ever tried to tint shellac with an oil stain?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Mixol will combine with most any finish, if that is of interest.

http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/ht...lors.htm#mixol

Are they sold through retailers or just direct? I would like a bottle but
their freight is punitive.

Shellac tinting
 

RicodJour wrote:

On Oct 11, 3:52 pm, alexy wrote:
Chrisgiraffe wrote:
I've read about tinting shellac with analine dyes (transtint). Has
anyone ever tried to tint shellac with an oil stain?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Only if you find one soluble in alcohol. AFAIK, none are.

Sure there are. The alcohol dyes are old school and have been around
forever.
True. But he was asking about oil stains, not dyes.

http://tinyurl.com/3yealw
And the manufacturer's homepage: http://www.wdlockwood.com/main.html

Be aware that the alcohol dyes aren't as light-fast as the water
soluble dyes. It's a good idea to use a finish that has UV protection
so you won't have fading even if it is indoors.

I have to thank you, if I wasn't searching for Lockwood to answer the
question, I wouldn't have found this place: http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com
It's not that far from me, so I'll have to make a visit.

R

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Shellac tinting
 

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:02:55 GMT, "Toller" wrote:


"Jim Weisgram" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:47:25 -0700, Chrisgiraffe
wrote:

I've read about tinting shellac with analine dyes (transtint). Has
anyone ever tried to tint shellac with an oil stain?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Mixol will combine with most any finish, if that is of interest.

http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/ht...lors.htm#mixol

Are they sold through retailers or just direct? I would like a bottle but
their freight is punitive.


I really don't know; I've seen it in various catalogs but not in the
only local woodworking shop. Woodcraft carries it on their web site so
perhaps they have it in their retail stores.


Jim

Shellac tinting
 

Toller wrote:
"Jim Weisgram" wrote in message

Mixol will combine with most any finish, if that is of interest.

http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/ht...lors.htm#mixol


Are they sold through retailers or just direct? I would like a bottle but
their freight is punitive.



Mixol colors is a product of The Target Coatings Group in Rutherford, NJ.

http://www.targetcoatings.com/index.html

Their distributor's list can be found at:

http://www.targetcoatings.com/distributors.html

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Buffalo, NY - USA

Shellac tinting
 

On Oct 12, 12:02 am, "Toller" wrote:
"Jim Weisgram" wrote in message

...

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:47:25 -0700, Chrisgiraffe
wrote:

I've read about tinting shellac with analine dyes (transtint). Has
anyone ever tried to tint shellac with an oil stain?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Mixol will combine with most any finish, if that is of interest.

http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/ht...lors.htm#mixol

Are they sold through retailers or just direct? I would like a bottle but
their freight is punitive.

"Universal colors" are what your paint dealer uses to
tint paint base. Wouldn't hurt to ask if he can sell you
a few tubes -- or even if he can tint a pint of blond shellac
with his computerized mixer provided the risk isn't
on him.

Shellac tinting
 

On Oct 11, 4:42 pm, RicodJour wrote:

Be aware that the alcohol dyes aren't as light-fast as the water
soluble dyes. It's a good idea to use a finish that has UV protection
so you won't have fading even if it is indoors.

IIRC, earth pigments are light fast, and can be mixed to match
any wood tone. Dayglo colors fade the quickest, but I doubt
anyone here is psychotic enough to stain furniture with them.

Magic marker can be washed off with alcohol, so the
inks are alcohol-soluble. You should be able to tint shellac
by pulling out a wick and dropping it into a can for a day
or so. Pantone offered nearly every color in the universe;
does anyone know if they're still in business?

Shellac tinting
 

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 12:07:33 -0700, Ferd Farkel
wrote:

Magic marker can be washed off with alcohol, so the
inks are alcohol-soluble. You should be able to tint shellac
by pulling out a wick and dropping it into a can for a day
or so. Pantone offered nearly every color in the universe;
does anyone know if they're still in business?

A really interesting thought.

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In article , wrote:
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 12:07:33 -0700, Ferd Farkel
wrote:

Magic marker can be washed off with alcohol, so the
inks are alcohol-soluble. You should be able to tint shellac
by pulling out a wick and dropping it into a can for a day
or so. Pantone offered nearly every color in the universe;
does anyone know if they're still in business?

A really interesting thought.

The mind reels.... there's orange shellac, and then there's DayGlo Orange
shellac...

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Shellac tinting
 

Magic marker can be washed off with alcohol, so the
inks are alcohol-soluble. You should be able to tint shellac
by pulling out a wick and dropping it into a can for a day
or so. Pantone offered nearly every color in the universe;
does anyone know if they're still in business?

Pantone is very much in business. You can buy their markers at any decent
art supply store such as Blick.

http://www.dickblick.com/zz213/71/

Lee


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Shellac tinting (How to do it from the guys that make the shellac)
 

I would read this first:


http://www.woodcentral.com/articles/...cles_575.shtml