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A Sewing Machine For The Workshop
On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home
workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Thanks TMT |
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Singer made a heavy duty machine that was designed for canvas and
leather, with a foot that rotates so you can aim the needle anyway you want. We bought one for $75. It is foot powered, but many of them were motorized. It is a very basic machine; no zigzag, etc.. Pete Stanaitis ------------------------- Too_Many_Tools wrote: On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Thanks TMT |
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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Thanks TMT Harbor Freight has a couple of nice machines. I have the single needle and it does a good job for my occassional use. Made the lifting slings for my new Smithy 1220 on it. Jim Chandler |
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:51:35 -0700, the renowned Too_Many_Tools
wrote: On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Thanks TMT You in a city with much schmatta trade? If you go to an industrial sewing machine place they'll fix you up with a used machine like a Juki that will run forever. (those machines actually have an oil pan). They often do this for young 'uns setting up as fashion designers. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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Singer made a heavy duty machine that was designed for canvas and
leather, with a foot that rotates so you can aim the needle anyway you want. We bought one for $75. It is foot powered, but many of them were motorized. It is a very basic machine; no zigzag, etc.. Pete Stanaitis ------------------------- Too_Many_Tools wrote: On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Thanks TMT Yup.... called a model 29.... Ken |
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Spehro Pefhany writes:
If you go to an industrial sewing machine place they'll fix you up with a used machine like a Juki that will run forever. (those machines actually have an oil pan). Isn't the HF item a Chinese clone of that? Look at the machines for sailmaking sold at http://www.sailrite.com/ where they do the sorts of applications you describe. |
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:
You in a city with much schmatta trade? If you go to an industrial sewing machine place they'll fix you up with a used machine like a Juki that will run forever. (those machines actually have an oil pan). They often do this for young 'uns setting up as fashion designers. Yep, my landlord has a bunch of industrial machines used to make motorcycle bags. Doubt he has a machine that is less than 50 years old. Also, if you are in an area that has some sailmakers, talk to them. Lew |
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:05:32 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:51:35 -0700, the renowned Too_Many_Tools wrote: On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Thanks TMT You in a city with much schmatta trade? If you go to an industrial sewing machine place they'll fix you up with a used machine like a Juki that will run forever. (those machines actually have an oil pan). They often do this for young 'uns setting up as fashion designers. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Or a good ConSew. Reliable Tool gets em in from time to time also. Gunner A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. Lazarus Long |
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Ken Sterling wrote:
Singer made a heavy duty machine that was designed for canvas and leather, with a foot that rotates so you can aim the needle anyway you want. We bought one for $75. It is foot powered, but many of them were motorized. It is a very basic machine; no zigzag, etc.. Pete Stanaitis ------------------------- Too_Many_Tools wrote: On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Thanks TMT Yup.... called a model 29.... Ken We call them boot patchers. We have acouple of them here tho never used one in earnest. The one to go for is the Singer k45 Real heavy motor driven one. Will sew 5 thicknesses of seat belt webbing. When hang gliding took off? back in the 1970's ( mostly downwards of course!!) I made lots of seated harnesses for this sport. Tested them myself first. Also made up shortened lifting strops from broken ones. The light industrial Singers are used by furniture upholsters Also Have acouple of 1860's model 12? is it Singers. Iknow, im a sucker for old machinery. Collect anything thats old and restorable. As an applied art smith, hammers are my real interest. Especially those made before 1860 when Bessemer introduced the blown steel process. These pre 1860 hammers were always from wrought iron with crucible steel ends fire welded on. te oldest I think I have is a roman one but cant be sure of its age The design is right so is the form. Heres hoping.!! Ted Dorset UK. |
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My 1950's anker sewed through 7 layers of marine vinyl and then about a 1/8
inch pvc extrusion. (camper awning cover). Then the wife used it to work on her quilt. Great machine, big, black and chrome!!! I also have a Singer Red Head treadle, with a leather belt foot power drive. Check with any good old sewing machine and vacuum repair place. They can tell you the best machines, or try an industrial machine repair center. Then watch Craigslist or the classifieds... I found my Anker in a thrift shop... 15 bucks. bob in phx Side story on the Anker. I found the Anker in the "as is" section of the local Mormon run thrift shop. I figured I had better plug it in and see if the motor was good. Well I plugged it in and it started to run, but without me touching the foot peddle. So I un-plugged it and gave a close look at the peddle. I noticed a couple of the rivets on the bottom were worn off. I also hear the remains of the rivets inside the peddle, where they should not be. So I decided to see if there was an speed up if I pushed on the peddle. So I plugged it in again and put my hand on the peddle. Bang, 110 volts were shooting up my arm. So again, I am in the middle of a very religious run store.... What came out of my mouth as I got my hand off the peddle????? You guessed it, profanity. And at the top of my lungs!!! I must have had 20 people, employees too, looking at me.. I sheepishly explained that I had just gotten a pretty good electrical shock... They bought it and I bought the machine!!!! "Gunner" wrote in message ... On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:05:32 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:51:35 -0700, the renowned Too_Many_Tools wrote: On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Thanks TMT You in a city with much schmatta trade? If you go to an industrial sewing machine place they'll fix you up with a used machine like a Juki that will run forever. (those machines actually have an oil pan). They often do this for young 'uns setting up as fashion designers. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Or a good ConSew. Reliable Tool gets em in from time to time also. Gunner A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. Lazarus Long |
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On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 04:21:18 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Lew
Hodgett quickly quoth: Spehro Pefhany wrote: You in a city with much schmatta trade? If you go to an industrial sewing machine place they'll fix you up with a used machine like a Juki that will run forever. (those machines actually have an oil pan). They often do this for young 'uns setting up as fashion designers. Yep, my landlord has a bunch of industrial machines used to make motorcycle bags. Doubt he has a machine that is less than 50 years old. Also, if you are in an area that has some sailmakers, talk to them. He'll need to talk to them in the winter, when they're not busy. They'd charge an extra fee right now just to look. I picked up my used Consew 210 for $395. It's an oil-sump machine and came with table, motor, clutch, extra clutch disk, bobbins, spools of thread, extra needles, extra feet, and a stainless binding feed. It's used to go through 2 layers of 680 denier nylon sheeting, a layer of 1/8" or 1/4" foam, 2 layers of spray glue, and 2 layers of folded binding. It'll do this all day long. (though I can't - Metaphors Be With You - |
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:51:35 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
wrote: On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Thanks TMT Here are some portable walking-foots http://www.allbrands.com/products/abc0585.html I have the Thompson, although it cost a lot less back when I bought it. If I can get the material under the foot it will feed cleanly and has never broken a needle. I mounted it on (in) a 3'X5' folding table to minimize struggling with large projects, and yet the whole thing can be tucked away when not in use. I added a knee lever for the foot lift (simple rope and pulley arrangement), and a better foot switch to allow slower motor speed. Other than occasional oiling, zero maintenance in 20 years of occasional use. If I was buying today I'd probably get something like this http://cgi.ebay.com/Industrial-Walki...QQcmdZViewItem Obviously not made for real industrial use, but perhaps just the right thing for the average home shop. Heavier and more powerful machines are made to sew FAST. For occasional amateur sewing of heavy materials you want to be able to go slow, sometimes just a few stitches at a time. Wayne |
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:51:35 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
wrote: On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. 1950s Black and Gold Singer, with motor. Basic, but indestructible and still easy to get parts for. Sews thin stuff, thick stuff and pretty much everything you actually _need_ to sew. 1970s diecast aluminium zig-zag machine, from a good maker. This will let you sew bar tacks, which are useful for strengthening. It should also have a "sleeve arm" so that it can sew inside narrow tubes. Early Japanese imports (New Home) are good, as are Europeans and _some_ US machines. This is about the time that over-complex unreliable fragile machines started to appear (US first, then Europe) though, so be careful. 1980s Pfaff 1221 / 1222 Does everything. has a walking foot so it will sew slippery kite fabric too. Much sought after. Industrial. Too big, too awkward to store, too expensive. Often highly specialised too, such as having flat bed rather than a sleeve arm, so they aren't useful for small work. Very few of us need a real industiral. Mine's a Brother, but I don't use it much. If it's a speciliased industrial, such as having a full walking foot, leather or upholstery sewing adaptions, then the price can get very high indeed. Don't underestimate the significance of thread and needles, more than machines, For leather in particular, you need the right needle to sew well. |
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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Thanks TMT If you are doing heavier stuff with multiple layers, a walking foot machine is a real nice thing to have, It pushes the material along on both sides, rather than just one. I have sewn with Singer machines and Juki's. The Juki requires far less in maintenance, as there are fewer adjustable linkages to get out of order. You can get lucky, and find a decent useable machine for under $400, but a more realistic price for one with a table and a couple accessories is probably around $1K, or a bit more. Stuff like piping feet are nice to have, too, if you want to make really Pro looking bags or covers. Cheers Trevor Jones |
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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Thanks TMT Juki, Con-sew, Thompson, Singer, etc. have good industrial machines. The domestic Singer machines, such as the Model 15, 66, 201, etc., are *not* industrial. There is a 201 that was outfitted for dressmakers with a knee lift, and it is a fine machine, but not industrial. If you look on eBay (and who doesn't?) beware of unscrupulous sellers who call any old solid iron sewing machine "industrial" -- when they are domestic machines. Tough, versatile, strong, but not industrial. Their motors are not built for 8 hours of flat-out sewing. For occasional use, a Singer 15 or 201 would probably do you just fine, but don't overpay for it. If you need a really heavy-duty machine, then look at the real industrial models, including the Singer 31. -- Joanne stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/ |
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I had a similar need. I found an old Anker sewing machine --
apparently made in East Germany out of old tank parts. It's rugged, reliable, and serviceable -- it has beautifully made parts. It also has a delicate touch if needed (mine came with a double needle and cams for embroidery stitches). I paid $ 5 at a hamfest. It's a portable in the same sense of the word with 1970's "portable" color TV's. There's a handle on the carrying case. Supplies are readily available. Surplus industrial singer models are great too. You can always find parts and they're very reliable. If you have the space, a table model with foot operated presser foot can be helpful. You can also get treadle operated machines for occasional use and exercise. Too_Many_Tools wrote: On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Thanks TMT |
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Mike Berger wrote:
You can also get treadle operated machines for occasional use and exercise. This overcomes some of the problems with motors not strong enough to penetrate several layers. In this case, you are sitting on the motor. ;-) -- Joanne stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/ |
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:51:35 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
wrote: On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? I have a Pfaff 130 that handles canvas, and leather rangeing from garment to light belt weight with no problem. I often make fetish, or goth gear so having a reliable machine that can do leather, PVC, etc. without gasping is a real godsend. I'm not sure you will find anything new without paying the big bucks. NightMist -- I'm a little teapot, short and stout here is my handle, here is my...other...handle? Bloody Hell!! I'm a sugar bowl! |
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On Jun 30, 5:51 pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Thanks TMT See if you can find a Singer 20U somewhere -- it's originally a tailor's machine, but pretty heavy duty -- all iron and steel, all gear driven. It will do straight and zigzag. I made all the canvas work and much of the interior upholstery for my sailboat with one, and have used it for drapes, leather, and misc. sewing ever since. It didn't have any problems sewing through multiple layers of heavy canvas, even on the corner patches and reinforcements. Regards, Bob |
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On Jun 30, 8:51 pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Try to find a used Pfaff Hobbymatic. From around 1980. It is a work horse. (Make sure it is the cast metal, not the plastic body.) The rest, as pointed out already, is the proper selection of threads and needles. |
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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Thanks TMT I found an old Singer model 152 (walking foot straight stitch) from about 1940. A man was selling his marine canvas shop and had it setting in a corner. He had three newer machines that he used and this one had just been taking up space for a long time. It had the motor replace with a bigger one at some point. I got it and the table for $200. When I got it home and got it all cleaned up, I started playing with it just to see how it worked. One of the things I did was to see just how much heavy vinyl fabric it would go through easily. It went through 8 layers like they weren't even there. I'll bet it would treat a finger the same way so I give it a VERY healty respect. However, what I wanted to say in responding to your question is that I would suggest you find one that has a reverse. Mine doesn't. I have found myself wishing that I had a reverse a few times like for tacking the end of a stitch, etc. What I have to do is either 1). Lift the foot and drag the piece back a little, drop the foot, and go again. This leaves a long piece of the thread open where you moved the piece but it works. or 2), Turn the piece around. This is ok for smaller pieces, but when I was re-stitching my boat cover it was a little impractical. Wayne |
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NoOne N Particular wrote:
However, what I wanted to say in responding to your question is that I would suggest you find one that has a reverse. Mine doesn't. I have found myself wishing that I had a reverse a few times like for tacking the end of a stitch, etc. What I have to do is either 1). Lift the foot and drag the piece back a little, drop the foot, and go again. This leaves a long piece of the thread open where you moved the piece but it works. or 2), Turn the piece around. This is ok for smaller pieces, but when I was re-stitching my boat cover it was a little impractical. Wayne Do you have a stitch length lever? If so, lower the number of stitches at the end of your seam to make very small stitches close together. Nearly on top of each other. I do that, not with the stitch lever, but by holding the fabric under the needle for the last 3 or 4 stitches, which does lock the end of the seam. You may find it easier to use the stitch length lever. -- Joanne stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/ |
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"Ted Frater" wrote in message
... Iknow, im a sucker for old machinery. Collect anything thats old and restorable. As an applied art smith, hammers are my real interest. Especially those made before 1860 when Bessemer introduced the blown steel process. These pre 1860 hammers were always from wrought iron with crucible steel ends fire welded on. te oldest I think I have is a roman one but cant be sure of its age The design is right so is the form. Heres hoping.!! Ted Dorset UK. Interesting! Photos? Web site? -- Mark |
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Mark Jerde wrote:
"Ted Frater" wrote in message ... Iknow, im a sucker for old machinery. Collect anything thats old and restorable. As an applied art smith, hammers are my real interest. Especially those made before 1860 when Bessemer introduced the blown steel process. These pre 1860 hammers were always from wrought iron with crucible steel ends fire welded on. te oldest I think I have is a roman one but cant be sure of its age The design is right so is the form. Heres hoping.!! Ted Dorset UK. Interesting! Photos? Web site? -- Mark It will be a few days for me to get out all these hammers and take some pics. then upload tomy website. thanks for the interst. ted. |
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17:01:21 GMT, NoOne N Particular wrote:
little, drop the foot, and go again. This leaves a long piece of the thread open where you moved the piece but it works. or 2), Turn the piece around. There's also option 3: decrease the stitch length to near 0 or 0, and/or hold on to the fabric and keep it from feeding for a few stitches at the end of the seam. Either will lock a line of stitches. Kay |
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Pogonip wrote:
NoOne N Particular wrote: However, what I wanted to say in responding to your question is that I would suggest you find one that has a reverse. Mine doesn't. I have found myself wishing that I had a reverse a few times like for tacking the end of a stitch, etc. What I have to do is either 1). Lift the foot and drag the piece back a little, drop the foot, and go again. This leaves a long piece of the thread open where you moved the piece but it works. or 2), Turn the piece around. This is ok for smaller pieces, but when I was re-stitching my boat cover it was a little impractical. Wayne Do you have a stitch length lever? If so, lower the number of stitches at the end of your seam to make very small stitches close together. Nearly on top of each other. I do that, not with the stitch lever, but by holding the fabric under the needle for the last 3 or 4 stitches, which does lock the end of the seam. You may find it easier to use the stitch length lever. The stitch length IS adjustable, but not while the machine is running, and not easily done with a heavy load of fabric on the bed. To change the stitch length you have to have the machine at a very specific point on it's rotation, then press a button on the bed of the machine and turn the hand wheel until the number of stitches per inch appears in a hole on the front of the machine. I think I might try the other technique of trying to slow the fabric so the stitches are closer together. Hadn't thought of that one. Wayne |
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On Jun 30, 5:51 pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? For canvas, cotton, and thin leather you should be fine with a typical "workhorse" sewingmachine from the swapmeet or a garage sale. Look for a brand name metal-bodied sewing machine, like Singer, Kenmore (Sears), Viking, or Husquvarnia. A good machine around here goes for ~50. If you can, try to get one with the little box of accessories... there should be some extra feet for making button holes or different kinds of hems. I don't know what you're making, but I'd guess that you don't need to go crazy with the stitches, just straight and zig-zag and maybe a button hole should do it for you. If you are looking to make clothes or something that will be washed a lot you might want to check out a serger. They'll sew up a seam, trim it and finish it so it wont fray all at the same time. If you know that you are going to do a whole lot of a particular kind of stitch you might want an industrial sewing machine. For example, if you are going to make a few tents or awnings you might want a straight stitch industrial machine and table w/clutch motor. If you don't have experience sewing I wouldn't recommend going that route. BTW, you might take a look at Sewing for Dummies, or other sewing books, or checking out alt.sewing, rec.crafts.textiles.sewing; or other forums. |
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"NoOne N Particular" wrote in message . net... | | The stitch length IS adjustable, but not while the machine is running, and not | easily done with a heavy load of fabric on the bed. To change the stitch length | you have to have the machine at a very specific point on it's rotation, then | press a button on the bed of the machine and turn the hand wheel until the | number of stitches per inch appears in a hole on the front of the machine. I | think I might try the other technique of trying to slow the fabric so the | stitches are closer together. Hadn't thought of that one. | | Wayne That sounds weird! What kind of sewing machine do you have? I've owned various types of sewing machines in the past and presently, I still keep 12 vintage machines in my collections( Pfaff, Elna, Necchi, Singer, Viking ). None of them have to be stopped to adjust the stitch length. All of them have infinitely variable stitch length( up to the max length) adjustments that can be done even when running at full speed. If you want a simple machine that would last for many generations that could do all you wanted to do as have been discussed here, I recommend a Pfaff 138. It is a real industrial machine for heavy duty work built like a tank with adjustable stitch length, zigzag, reverse and a very convenient knee-operated foot lever to raise the sewing foot. It's very simple to maintain or adjust and the design is straightforward for any mechanically inclined person to understand. The older Consew machines are good choices too. |
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On Jun 30, 7:51 pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Thanks TMT Thanks for the excellent replies. Any suggestions as to types of thread and other supplies to have on hand? What type of workspace, desk, table, etc. works best for you? Thanks TMT |
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Hunter wrote:
"NoOne N Particular" wrote in message . net... | | The stitch length IS adjustable, but not while the machine is running, and not | easily done with a heavy load of fabric on the bed. To change the stitch length | you have to have the machine at a very specific point on it's rotation, then | press a button on the bed of the machine and turn the hand wheel until the | number of stitches per inch appears in a hole on the front of the machine. I | think I might try the other technique of trying to slow the fabric so the | stitches are closer together. Hadn't thought of that one. | | Wayne That sounds weird! What kind of sewing machine do you have? I've owned various types of sewing machines in the past and presently, I still keep 12 vintage machines in my collections( Pfaff, Elna, Necchi, Singer, Viking ). None of them have to be stopped to adjust the stitch length. All of them have infinitely variable stitch length( up to the max length) adjustments that can be done even when running at full speed. If you want a simple machine that would last for many generations that could do all you wanted to do as have been discussed here, I recommend a Pfaff 138. It is a real industrial machine for heavy duty work built like a tank with adjustable stitch length, zigzag, reverse and a very convenient knee-operated foot lever to raise the sewing foot. It's very simple to maintain or adjust and the design is straightforward for any mechanically inclined person to understand. The older Consew machines are good choices too. I think in my intital post I said that it was a Singer Model 152 but it is really a Model 111W. To be more precise, 111W152 from around 1940. For a picture, go here and scroll down to the 152: http://www.industrialsewmachine.com/...ngers/111w.htm This is actually one of the machines that became the "standard" in the industry and the parts for this machine were readily interchangeable with other manufacturers for quite a number of years. A great many parts for this machine are still readily available. If my info is correct, all but the major castings. Wayne Wayne |
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Gunner wrote:
Most of the feet are marked $10 and so forth. Got a couple hundred of them.. Anone want to make me an offer for the whole shooting match? Why don't you list them on Ebay a few at a time? -- Every job is a self-portrait of the person who does it. Autograph your work with excellence. |
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:24:24 -0700, Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to
reply wrote: Gunner wrote: Most of the feet are marked $10 and so forth. Got a couple hundred of them.. Anone want to make me an offer for the whole shooting match? Why don't you list them on Ebay a few at a time? Because Ive not a clue on how to do it, nor do I have the time or inclination. Shrug..I can take pictures, get some numbers off them..and dump the entire thing into a USPS box and let someone mess with em. If someone wants the parts bins..shrug..take a bigger box. Gunner A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. Lazarus Long |
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Actually not uncommon at all for industrial machines, I can think of several
off the top of my head, the 111W and it clones , Singer 241/251, 245, Union special 64000, most any industrial overlock, etc. -- Ron Anderson A1 Sewing Machine PO Box 60, Sand Lake, NY 12153 518-469-5133 http://www.singera1sewing.com http://www.a1sewingmachine.com "Hunter" wrote in message . net... "NoOne N Particular" wrote in message . net... | | The stitch length IS adjustable, but not while the machine is running, and not | easily done with a heavy load of fabric on the bed. To change the stitch length | you have to have the machine at a very specific point on it's rotation, then | press a button on the bed of the machine and turn the hand wheel until the | number of stitches per inch appears in a hole on the front of the machine. I | think I might try the other technique of trying to slow the fabric so the | stitches are closer together. Hadn't thought of that one. | | Wayne That sounds weird! What kind of sewing machine do you have? I've owned various types of sewing machines in the past and presently, I still keep 12 vintage machines in my collections( Pfaff, Elna, Necchi, Singer, Viking ). None of them have to be stopped to adjust the stitch length. All of them have infinitely variable stitch length( up to the max length) adjustments that can be done even when running at full speed. If you want a simple machine that would last for many generations that could do all you wanted to do as have been discussed here, I recommend a Pfaff 138. It is a real industrial machine for heavy duty work built like a tank with adjustable stitch length, zigzag, reverse and a very convenient knee-operated foot lever to raise the sewing foot. It's very simple to maintain or adjust and the design is straightforward for any mechanically inclined person to understand. The older Consew machines are good choices too. |
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You could also dump it off at your local thrift/charity shop and get rid
of it that way without having to worry about it at all. Gunner wrote: Why don't you list them on Ebay a few at a time? Because Ive not a clue on how to do it, nor do I have the time or inclination. Shrug..I can take pictures, get some numbers off them..and dump the entire thing into a USPS box and let someone mess with em. If someone wants the parts bins..shrug..take a bigger box. -- Every job is a self-portrait of the person who does it. Autograph your work with excellence. |
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"Gunner" wrote in message ... On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:24:24 -0700, Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply wrote: Gunner wrote: Most of the feet are marked $10 and so forth. Got a couple hundred of them.. Anone want to make me an offer for the whole shooting match? Hey Gunner: i'll be glad to take em off yer hands Contact me at Name a price and I'l "dicker" wid ya!! |
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 09:12:29 -0700, "patrick mitchel"
wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:24:24 -0700, Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply wrote: Gunner wrote: Most of the feet are marked $10 and so forth. Got a couple hundred of them.. Anone want to make me an offer for the whole shooting match? Hey Gunner: i'll be glad to take em off yer hands Contact me at Name a price and I'l "dicker" wid ya!! Want some pictures of em? I can show you the pile and take some close ups. Where you at? Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message oups.com... On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home workshop that require a sewing machine. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) Any suggestions? Any suggested machines? Thanks TMT Found a Singer 111W155 today for $250, which I promptly snatched. Has base, table, motor, and spindle stand. Have asked alt.textiles.sewing group for feedback, but feel this industrial sewing machine will do all I want to do with regards to making Raven Mills Sunbrella awnings and shade cloth coverings for my new house. I was tickled to get it. Will let you know how it works. It is H-E-A-V-Y! Steve |
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SteveB wrote:
Found a Singer 111W155 today for $250, which I promptly snatched. Has base, table, motor, and spindle stand. Have asked alt.textiles.sewing group for feedback, but feel this industrial sewing machine will do all I want to do with regards to making Raven Mills Sunbrella awnings and shade cloth coverings for my new house. Just make sure you get thread that is compatible with the Sunbrella and is treated for UV resistance. Have fun. Lew |
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A walking foot is a good feature for heavier materials.
Singer 132K6 is great, popular with auto trimmers, not cheap, has BIG bobbin, easy to use, tough. I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas, cotton, thin leather) |
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