I have a headroom problem, and JDS is about all that will fit.
Has anyone used one? They claim to have a different impeller design that
gives better suction at higher static pressures; if true, that is good since
I will be using it with a 4" hose. Sadly I just don't have the room for
permanent installations; all my tools are mobil.

The JDS salesman says that the 3hp would be overkill; for one tool I would
get all the suction I could use from the 2hp. But I don't want to buy a
small machine and have to upgrade latter on; that is just false economy. I
have done that a few times in the past (okay, many times...) and regretted
it. Plus, it seems to me that a 3hp has to perform better than a 2hp on
something open like a CMS. Any thoughts on this issue?

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:00:58 GMT, "Toller" wrote:

I have a headroom problem, and JDS is about all that will fit.
Has anyone used one? They claim to have a different impeller design that
gives better suction at higher static pressures; if true, that is good since
I will be using it with a 4" hose. Sadly I just don't have the room for
permanent installations; all my tools are mobil.

clearvuecyclones has a low ceiling model, but I don't think you want
to hook that 5 hp leeson motor up to a 4" hose.


-Leuf

Sadly I just don't have the room for
permanent installations; all my tools are mobil.


Oneida has a short, mobile version:
http://www.oneida-air.com/products/s...e/portable.htm
Andy

"Andy" wrote in message
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Sadly I just don't have the room for
permanent installations; all my tools are mobil.


Oneida has a short, mobile version:
http://www.oneida-air.com/products/s...e/portable.htm
Andy

It it had been on their recent sale I would have been tempted, but it is a
lot of money for a small machine.

Harbor Freight has a 2HP DC for $134. That is plenty for several stations
in small hobbiest shop assuming you blast gate off unused stations.
"Toller" wrote in message
...
I have a headroom problem, and JDS is about all that will fit.
Has anyone used one? They claim to have a different impeller design that
gives better suction at higher static pressures; if true, that is good
since I will be using it with a 4" hose. Sadly I just don't have the room
for permanent installations; all my tools are mobil.

The JDS salesman says that the 3hp would be overkill; for one tool I would
get all the suction I could use from the 2hp. But I don't want to buy a
small machine and have to upgrade latter on; that is just false economy.
I have done that a few times in the past (okay, many times...) and
regretted it. Plus, it seems to me that a 3hp has to perform better than
a 2hp on something open like a CMS. Any thoughts on this issue?

On Feb 21, 1:00 pm, "Toller" wrote:
I have a headroom problem, and JDS is about all that will fit.
Has anyone used one?

How much headroom do you have? I have a Clear Vue one that I put
between the joists in the basement ceiling (modified the bracket
plans).. I suppose you could also use a shorter collection bin.

BTW, the clear vue footprint is only about 2' X 3'. That's not too
bad.

If you want to avoid upgrading later on, I think you are going to have
to give up on a mobile cyclone.

"bf" wrote in message
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On Feb 21, 1:00 pm, "Toller" wrote:
I have a headroom problem, and JDS is about all that will fit.
Has anyone used one?

How much headroom do you have? I have a Clear Vue one that I put
between the joists in the basement ceiling (modified the bracket
plans).. I suppose you could also use a shorter collection bin.

BTW, the clear vue footprint is only about 2' X 3'. That's not too
bad.

If you want to avoid upgrading later on, I think you are going to have
to give up on a mobile cyclone.

No, it is the tools that are mobil. My DC is fixed.

It appears that the Oneida Portable is on sale now - about $275 off. Haven't
heard from anyone with one, although Oneida seems to have a good reputation
with their other collectors.


"Toller" wrote in message
...

"bf" wrote in message
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On Feb 21, 1:00 pm, "Toller" wrote:
I have a headroom problem, and JDS is about all that will fit.
Has anyone used one?

How much headroom do you have? I have a Clear Vue one that I put
between the joists in the basement ceiling (modified the bracket
plans).. I suppose you could also use a shorter collection bin.

BTW, the clear vue footprint is only about 2' X 3'. That's not too
bad.

If you want to avoid upgrading later on, I think you are going to have
to give up on a mobile cyclone.

No, it is the tools that are mobil. My DC is fixed.

I would probably buy one if it were $275 off, but I just went to Oneida's
website and they don't show the discount.
Do you have some good information on the discount? $1500 is just too much;
I can get the 3hp JDS for that.

"TH" wrote in message
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It appears that the Oneida Portable is on sale now - about $275 off.
Haven't heard from anyone with one, although Oneida seems to have a good
reputation with their other collectors.


"Toller" wrote in message
...

"bf" wrote in message
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On Feb 21, 1:00 pm, "Toller" wrote:
I have a headroom problem, and JDS is about all that will fit.
Has anyone used one?

How much headroom do you have? I have a Clear Vue one that I put
between the joists in the basement ceiling (modified the bracket
plans).. I suppose you could also use a shorter collection bin.

BTW, the clear vue footprint is only about 2' X 3'. That's not too
bad.

If you want to avoid upgrading later on, I think you are going to have
to give up on a mobile cyclone.

No, it is the tools that are mobil. My DC is fixed.

Call or talk to a salesperson. I emailed a request for a quote last night
and got the reply this morning. $278 limited time winter discount.

I'm pretty close to Syracuse and was thinking of picking it up - but it
won't fit in the jeep.

"Toller" wrote in message
...
I would probably buy one if it were $275 off, but I just went to Oneida's
website and they don't show the discount.
Do you have some good information on the discount? $1500 is just too
much; I can get the 3hp JDS for that.

"TH" wrote in message
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It appears that the Oneida Portable is on sale now - about $275 off.
Haven't heard from anyone with one, although Oneida seems to have a good
reputation with their other collectors.


"Toller" wrote in message
...

"bf" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 21, 1:00 pm, "Toller" wrote:
I have a headroom problem, and JDS is about all that will fit.
Has anyone used one?

How much headroom do you have? I have a Clear Vue one that I put
between the joists in the basement ceiling (modified the bracket
plans).. I suppose you could also use a shorter collection bin.

BTW, the clear vue footprint is only about 2' X 3'. That's not too
bad.

If you want to avoid upgrading later on, I think you are going to have
to give up on a mobile cyclone.

No, it is the tools that are mobil. My DC is fixed.

They are in Syracuse!? I am in Rochester, so this just might work out.
Thanks much.

"TH" wrote in message
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Call or talk to a salesperson. I emailed a request for a quote last night
and got the reply this morning. $278 limited time winter discount.

I'm pretty close to Syracuse and was thinking of picking it up - but it
won't fit in the jeep.

"Toller" wrote in message
...
I would probably buy one if it were $275 off, but I just went to Oneida's
website and they don't show the discount.
Do you have some good information on the discount? $1500 is just too
much; I can get the 3hp JDS for that.

I am trying to decide between the two units - Oneida and the JDS. Both of
the units are either too new or too rare to develop any likes or dislikes
from users. I looked into the Small Clearvue and wasn't sold on it.

I am still trying to figure out if the Oneida is actually a single stage
collector with a cone shaped chute to the collection bins or a cyclone.

"Toller" wrote in message
...
They are in Syracuse!? I am in Rochester, so this just might work out.
Thanks much.

"TH" wrote in message
k.net...
Call or talk to a salesperson. I emailed a request for a quote last night
and got the reply this morning. $278 limited time winter discount.

I'm pretty close to Syracuse and was thinking of picking it up - but it
won't fit in the jeep.

"Toller" wrote in message
...
I would probably buy one if it were $275 off, but I just went to Oneida's
website and they don't show the discount.
Do you have some good information on the discount? $1500 is just too
much; I can get the 3hp JDS for that.

We are going though exactly the same issues. I am undecided between the
portable Oneida, the 3hp JDS and the 2hp JDS.

Reading though the assembly instructions, it is a real cyclone; but it is a
little tiny cyclone. As such the suction is 2/3rds that of the 2hp Gorilla
and the separation probably isn't as good either. I expect the filters will
clog up much faster than on a big cyclone. Oh for just a couple extra
inches of ceiling height!

Woodcraft in Rochester is having a 10% off sale next week. I am leaning to
getting a 3hp JDS then. It is probably overkill, but that is better than
regretting I didn't get a big enough unit.
Where are you located?

"TH" wrote in message
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I am trying to decide between the two units - Oneida and the JDS. Both of
the units are either too new or too rare to develop any likes or dislikes
from users. I looked into the Small Clearvue and wasn't sold on it.

I am still trying to figure out if the Oneida is actually a single stage
collector with a cone shaped chute to the collection bins or a cyclone.

Saratoga Springs.

In looking at the magazine review on the Oneida website I have never seen
fan curves as flat as those from the JDS 3Hp unit.

The JDS website really doesn't have any data that helps in the decision.
Amazon has a couple of customer reviews of the JDS units.

I still am undecided.


"Toller" wrote in message
...
We are going though exactly the same issues. I am undecided between the
portable Oneida, the 3hp JDS and the 2hp JDS.

Reading though the assembly instructions, it is a real cyclone; but it is
a little tiny cyclone. As such the suction is 2/3rds that of the 2hp
Gorilla and the separation probably isn't as good either. I expect the
filters will clog up much faster than on a big cyclone. Oh for just a
couple extra inches of ceiling height!

Woodcraft in Rochester is having a 10% off sale next week. I am leaning
to getting a 3hp JDS then. It is probably overkill, but that is better
than regretting I didn't get a big enough unit.
Where are you located?

"TH" wrote in message
ink.net...
I am trying to decide between the two units - Oneida and the JDS. Both of
the units are either too new or too rare to develop any likes or dislikes
from users. I looked into the Small Clearvue and wasn't sold on it.

I am still trying to figure out if the Oneida is actually a single stage
collector with a cone shaped chute to the collection bins or a cyclone.