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ilaboo February 8th 07 01:26 AM

router basic question
 
very new to this very dangerous tool--have about 1/2 hour use with it and
did 1000 hours of damage!!

I have to route out a 3/8" deep grove apx 4" by 18 "

problem I am having is after the first few inches the router is now only
resting on 1/2 the platform and it rocks forward and does n asty things--i
hve larned that you have tto set up guides with this thingh

is ther some sort of attachment that would fit on the base of the router
that would act like a footing and is adjustible so i dont have to keep
foolin with placing guides?



Stoutman February 8th 07 01:35 AM

router basic question
 
I have to route out a 3/8" deep grove apx 4" by 18 "

problem I am having is after the first few inches the router is now only
resting on 1/2 the platform and it rocks forward and does n asty things--i
hve larned that you have tto set up guides with this thingh


Two much safer options:
1) If this is NOT a stopped groove, meaning it goes from end of board to end
of board, I would use a stacked dado cutter on the table saw.
2) Perform the rout in a router table.

is ther some sort of attachment that would fit on the base of the router
that would act like a footing and is adjustible so i dont have to keep
foolin with placing guides?


You could make your own base that is large enough and screw it to the
router.






Leuf February 8th 07 01:42 AM

router basic question
 
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 01:26:24 GMT, "ilaboo"
wrote:

very new to this very dangerous tool--have about 1/2 hour use with it and
did 1000 hours of damage!!

I have to route out a 3/8" deep grove apx 4" by 18 "

problem I am having is after the first few inches the router is now only
resting on 1/2 the platform and it rocks forward and does n asty things--i
hve larned that you have tto set up guides with this thingh

is ther some sort of attachment that would fit on the base of the router
that would act like a footing and is adjustible so i dont have to keep
foolin with placing guides?


Simple way is to replace the router's sub base with a piece of ply
that's big enough to span the hole. Use the sub base to mark the hole
locations for the screws to attach it.


-Leuf

John February 8th 07 01:44 AM

router basic question
 
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 01:26:24 GMT, "ilaboo"
wrote:

very new to this very dangerous tool--have about 1/2 hour use with it and
did 1000 hours of damage!!

I have to route out a 3/8" deep grove apx 4" by 18 "

problem I am having is after the first few inches the router is now only
resting on 1/2 the platform and it rocks forward and does n asty things--i
hve larned that you have tto set up guides with this thingh

is ther some sort of attachment that would fit on the base of the router
that would act like a footing and is adjustible so i dont have to keep
foolin with placing guides?


I'm a novice with the router but I have been learning from the forum
(takes a long time to scan 100,000+ messages ;-)
If your workspace has room for it, another piece of wood the same
thickness as the piece being routed (long enough to be out of the way)
makes a good support for the "other half" of the router. Usually only
a couple of simple clamps are needed to keep the support piece in
place.

John


George February 8th 07 11:17 AM

router basic question
 

"John" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 01:26:24 GMT, "ilaboo"
wrote:

very new to this very dangerous tool--have about 1/2 hour use with it and
did 1000 hours of damage!!

I have to route out a 3/8" deep grove apx 4" by 18 "

problem I am having is after the first few inches the router is now only
resting on 1/2 the platform and it rocks forward and does n asty things--i
hve larned that you have tto set up guides with this thingh

is ther some sort of attachment that would fit on the base of the router
that would act like a footing and is adjustible so i dont have to keep
foolin with placing guides?


I'm a novice with the router but I have been learning from the forum
(takes a long time to scan 100,000+ messages ;-)
If your workspace has room for it, another piece of wood the same
thickness as the piece being routed (long enough to be out of the way)
makes a good support for the "other half" of the router. Usually only
a couple of simple clamps are needed to keep the support piece in
place.



Two solutions now given. Extend the size of the router base or extend the
size of the piece itself. Third is like unto the second, but a great habit
to get into. Make a plywood template for your cutout and use the collar for
a follow. With a proper fence or fences and a clamp or two you're good to
go. Hold on to the template through at least one shop cleaning and label
carefully as to size of bit/collar/result.


pumis February 8th 07 11:18 AM

router basic question
 
Use a thick plexiglass as a base if you need
to see the routed area.

A router table would also work if the piece is
small enough.

Good luck


ilaboo February 8th 07 11:49 AM

router basic question
 
thanks to all of you for your help

i know know that you hve to take the time to clamp and set up guides--i hve
a very heavy hand and was not taking time to do the obvious
looking forward to my next router problem

than ks again
peter
"pumis" wrote in message
ups.com...
Use a thick plexiglass as a base if you need
to see the routed area.

A router table would also work if the piece is
small enough.

Good luck




Prometheus February 9th 07 09:47 AM

router basic question
 
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 01:26:24 GMT, "ilaboo"
wrote:

very new to this very dangerous tool--have about 1/2 hour use with it and
did 1000 hours of damage!!

I have to route out a 3/8" deep grove apx 4" by 18 "

problem I am having is after the first few inches the router is now only
resting on 1/2 the platform and it rocks forward and does n asty things--i
hve larned that you have tto set up guides with this thingh

is ther some sort of attachment that would fit on the base of the router
that would act like a footing and is adjustible so i dont have to keep
foolin with placing guides?


The idea of making your own sub-base is a good one- you can use
whatever you have on hand that is thin enough. just remove the
exisiting base from your router, lay it on your
plywood/hardboard/plexiglass/etc. and use that as a guide to mark
where you need to drill your holes.

*However* that is not truly necessary. With a little practice, you
should be able to route a good recess with half the base on the wood.
Make sure as much of the base as possible is on the unrouted wood, and
one of the handles is over the unrouted wood as well. Start in the
center, and work out in a spiral pattern. Place a little downward
pressure on the handle on the unrouted side and make sure that the
handle over the recess is being guided only- you don't want any
downward pressure on it at all. When you get to the edges, place
another board of the same thickness next to one you're routing.

Charley February 9th 07 12:30 PM

router basic question
 
After you have removed as much material as you can without the router
falling into the groove that you are making, cut a scrap of wood the same
thickness as what you are removing and stick this piece to the free side of
the bottom of your router with double sided tape. Now you have the support
that you need and it will follow your moves across the rest of that wide
groove. Of course, it is necessary to have a good router bit that makes a
clean smooth flat bottomed cut for this to work properly. If you can't get a
smooth bottom cut from your router bit, then you can't use this method and
you need to make a temporary wide base for your router to bridge the 4" cut.

--
Charley



"Prometheus" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 01:26:24 GMT, "ilaboo"
wrote:

very new to this very dangerous tool--have about 1/2 hour use with it and
did 1000 hours of damage!!

I have to route out a 3/8" deep grove apx 4" by 18 "

problem I am having is after the first few inches the router is now only
resting on 1/2 the platform and it rocks forward and does n asty

things--i
hve larned that you have tto set up guides with this thingh

is ther some sort of attachment that would fit on the base of the router
that would act like a footing and is adjustible so i dont have to keep
foolin with placing guides?


The idea of making your own sub-base is a good one- you can use
whatever you have on hand that is thin enough. just remove the
exisiting base from your router, lay it on your
plywood/hardboard/plexiglass/etc. and use that as a guide to mark
where you need to drill your holes.

*However* that is not truly necessary. With a little practice, you
should be able to route a good recess with half the base on the wood.
Make sure as much of the base as possible is on the unrouted wood, and
one of the handles is over the unrouted wood as well. Start in the
center, and work out in a spiral pattern. Place a little downward
pressure on the handle on the unrouted side and make sure that the
handle over the recess is being guided only- you don't want any
downward pressure on it at all. When you get to the edges, place
another board of the same thickness next to one you're routing.




jtpr February 9th 07 06:09 PM

router basic question
 
On Feb 7, 8:26 pm, "ilaboo" wrote:
very new to this very dangerous tool--have about 1/2 hour use with it and
did 1000 hours of damage!!

I have to route out a 3/8" deep grove apx 4" by 18 "

problem I am having is after the first few inches the router is now only
resting on 1/2 the platform and it rocks forward and does n asty things--i
hve larned that you have tto set up guides with this thingh

is ther some sort of attachment that would fit on the base of the router
that would act like a footing and is adjustible so i dont have to keep
foolin with placing guides?


I would clamp two boards on the piece so that moving the router back
and forth between them covers the 4" width. Then just use a straight
bit and run down the 18" length at maybe 1/4" per swipe.

-jtpr



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