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tnfkajs July 30th 03 10:37 PM

Murphy Strikes Again
 

"Thomas Mitchell" wrote in message
...
found the manual. Damn murphy.


Mine was this morning cutting some small moulding. Murphy's Law: "the
probability of making a mistake is inversely proportional to the amount of
spare stock available", bit me big time...



bay area dave July 30th 03 10:49 PM

Murphy Strikes Again
 
Not to be argumentative, but...

I don't think misplacing a manual for a few minutes is an example of
Murphy's Law. Had you broken the saw while changing the blade, THEN
Murphy's law would have applied. The law is: "Anything that can go wrong,
will go wrong".

dave

Thomas Mitchell wrote:

I was building a storage bench to hold some of the benchtop tools I
have. I was using some oak members that I seperated from pallets long
ago but were laying around taking up space. Since the oak had parts of
nails in it, I decided to change blades on the power mitre saw from the
shopmaster to the blade that came with the saw. Murphy stole the manual
right before I received the chopmaster so I didn't have instructions on
changing the blade. I decided to take the time to figure out how dewalt
wanted me to change the blade and after about ten minutes I saw how
unbelievably simple it was. I finished the storage bench and started
giving the garage a good cleaning. Five minutes into the cleaning, I
found the manual. Damn murphy.



Lee Gordon July 30th 03 11:14 PM

Murphy Strikes Again
 
I decided to take the time to figure out how dewalt
wanted me to change the blade and after about ten minutes I saw how
unbelievably simple it was. I finished the storage bench and started
giving the garage a good cleaning. Five minutes into the cleaning, I
found the manual. Damn murphy.

You got off easy. If Murphy were really doing his job you would have
finished the bench without incident, reinstalled your good blade, cut some
virgin stock and clipped an embedded piece of metal.

Lee



M.G. Moran July 31st 03 12:11 AM

Murphy Strikes Again
 
Or you would have set the blade down, forgot where you put it, search for a
hour, lose the wrenches, get frustrated and go buy a new blade, come home a
realize you had already put the damn blade on. Or maybe that only happens to
me, oh well
"Lee Gordon" wrote in message
news:ArXVa.22608$YN5.20688@sccrnsc01...
I decided to take the time to figure out how dewalt
wanted me to change the blade and after about ten minutes I saw how
unbelievably simple it was. I finished the storage bench and started
giving the garage a good cleaning. Five minutes into the cleaning, I
found the manual. Damn murphy.

You got off easy. If Murphy were really doing his job you would have
finished the bench without incident, reinstalled your good blade, cut some
virgin stock and clipped an embedded piece of metal.

Lee





JackD July 31st 03 12:32 AM

Murphy Strikes Again
 

"tnfkajs" wrote in message
...

"Thomas Mitchell" wrote in message
...
No, I meant the other Murphy brother who's law states "Anything needed
will be missing until the exact moment that the thing is no longer

needed."

The Murphy's are a *large* family!


Perhaps you are not aware that the "everything ... will go wrong" quotation
is actually from Mrs. Murphy (Murphy's Mom) and is derived from her research
on contraceptives.

-Jack



D K Woods July 31st 03 04:57 AM

Murphy Strikes Again
 

You got off easy. If Murphy were really doing his job you would have
finished the bench without incident, reinstalled your good blade, cut some
virgin stock and clipped an embedded piece of metal.

Lee


You took the words out of my mouth. Running a sharp blade spinning at
22,000 rpm or so through a piece of wood known to have bits of metal
embedded in it...and you make it out well enough to tell the story? I
don't think Murphy was anywhere around.

david
--
I am a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have
of it.
-- Thomas Jefferson

Bob Bowles July 31st 03 01:14 PM

Murphy Strikes Again
 
Wife got out of car to look in house for her keys, returned saying
"Wouldn't you know it was in the LAST place I looked" which brought my
observation "I sure hope so!"

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:41:02 -0400, Thomas Mitchell
wrote:

No, I meant the other Murphy brother who's law states "Anything needed
will be missing until the exact moment that the thing is no longer needed."



Robert Bonomi July 31st 03 03:37 PM

Murphy Strikes Again
 
In article , JackD wrote:

"tnfkajs" wrote in message
.. .

"Thomas Mitchell" wrote in message
...
No, I meant the other Murphy brother who's law states "Anything needed
will be missing until the exact moment that the thing is no longer

needed."

The Murphy's are a *large* family!


Perhaps you are not aware that the "everything ... will go wrong" quotation
is actually from Mrs. Murphy (Murphy's Mom) and is derived from her research
on contraceptives.


FACT: There _really_ was a Murphy. Edward A. Murphy. He was a Q.C. engineer
for McDonald Douglas. Assigned to the manned rocket-sled (known as the 'lead
sled') acceleration experiments done at Boneville Salt Flats.

Came one day when Colonel Paul Stapp climbed on the sled to go for ride,
trying for a "world record" for the number of "G's" for an unprotected man.
And off he went. _Felt_ like a record run to him. Got off, and asked the
techs "How many G's?" They replied: "Zero."

Ed Murphy was on the next flight to Bonneville from St. Louis. Upon
investigation, he found that a new set of accellerometers had been installed
on the sled. That they would fit, in either of two orientations. And that
they _had_ been installed *BACKWARDS*.

His actual words: "If there is a way that a thing can be done wrong, sooner
or later it _will_ be done wrong." (*very* valid, from a QC perspective)

However, at a press conference following, Col. Stapp _mis-quoted_ him as:
"whatever _can_ go wrong, *will* go wrong." and the rest is, as they say,
'history'.



Alan McClure July 31st 03 04:32 PM

Murphy Strikes Again
 


Robert Bonomi wrote:

In article , JackD wrote:

"tnfkajs" wrote in message
.. .

"Thomas Mitchell" wrote in message
...
No, I meant the other Murphy brother who's law states "Anything needed
will be missing until the exact moment that the thing is no longer
needed."

The Murphy's are a *large* family!


Perhaps you are not aware that the "everything ... will go wrong" quotation
is actually from Mrs. Murphy (Murphy's Mom) and is derived from her research
on contraceptives.


FACT: There _really_ was a Murphy. Edward A. Murphy. He was a Q.C. engineer
for McDonald Douglas. Assigned to the manned rocket-sled (known as the 'lead
sled') acceleration experiments done at Boneville Salt Flats.

Came one day when Colonel Paul Stapp climbed on the sled to go for ride,
trying for a "world record" for the number of "G's" for an unprotected man.
And off he went. _Felt_ like a record run to him. Got off, and asked the
techs "How many G's?" They replied: "Zero."

Ed Murphy was on the next flight to Bonneville from St. Louis. Upon
investigation, he found that a new set of accellerometers had been installed
on the sled. That they would fit, in either of two orientations. And that
they _had_ been installed *BACKWARDS*.

His actual words: "If there is a way that a thing can be done wrong, sooner
or later it _will_ be done wrong." (*very* valid, from a QC perspective)

However, at a press conference following, Col. Stapp _mis-quoted_ him as:
"whatever _can_ go wrong, *will* go wrong." and the rest is, as they say,
'history'.


Close, but no cigar!! Here's the TRUE story.

http://www.murphys-laws.com/murphy/murphy-true.html

Until today I didn't know the location but I knew that an
officer named Murphy made the comment about an enlisted man.

ARM


Robert Bonomi July 31st 03 09:31 PM

Murphy Strikes Again
 
In article ,
Alan McClure wrote:


Robert Bonomi wrote:

In article , JackD wrote:

"tnfkajs" wrote in message
.. .

"Thomas Mitchell" wrote in message
...
No, I meant the other Murphy brother who's law states "Anything needed
will be missing until the exact moment that the thing is no longer
needed."

The Murphy's are a *large* family!

Perhaps you are not aware that the "everything ... will go wrong" quotation
is actually from Mrs. Murphy (Murphy's Mom) and is derived from her research
on contraceptives.


FACT: There _really_ was a Murphy. Edward A. Murphy. He was a Q.C. engineer
for McDonald Douglas. Assigned to the manned rocket-sled (known as the 'lead
sled') acceleration experiments done at Boneville Salt Flats.

Came one day when Colonel Paul Stapp climbed on the sled to go for ride,
trying for a "world record" for the number of "G's" for an unprotected man.
And off he went. _Felt_ like a record run to him. Got off, and asked the
techs "How many G's?" They replied: "Zero."

Ed Murphy was on the next flight to Bonneville from St. Louis. Upon
investigation, he found that a new set of accellerometers had been installed
on the sled. That they would fit, in either of two orientations. And that
they _had_ been installed *BACKWARDS*.

His actual words: "If there is a way that a thing can be done wrong, sooner
or later it _will_ be done wrong." (*very* valid, from a QC perspective)

However, at a press conference following, Col. Stapp _mis-quoted_ him as:
"whatever _can_ go wrong, *will* go wrong." and the rest is, as they say,
'history'.


Close, but no cigar!! Here's the TRUE story.

http://www.murphys-laws.com/murphy/murphy-true.html


McDonald Douglass -- contractor for the lead sled project -- seems to think
he worked for _them_. They ran his story, in the in-house employees magazine,
circa 1980. Old interview material, _photo_ of him in his McDonald-Douglass
office, etc. Including _his_own_ description of the events, *and* his dislike
of _his_ name being associated with the "incorrect" remark.

On review, I misquoted the original words. they a "If a thing can be done
in two or more ways, and one of them results in catastrophe, sooner or later
it will be done that way."

Stapp's mis-quote, at the press-conference, _the_day_after_ the botched attempt,
*is* a matter of public record. (and I, personally, know one of the wire-service
reporters who was present at that press conference) Murphy says that Stapp
*was* present when he made the original remark. I also correct myself in noting
that at that time, Stapp held the rank of Major. The promotion to Colonel came
a bit later.

I've found another, apparently reliable, source that indicates Murphy was an
Air Force officer, with the rank of Captain, at the time of the events. The
McDonald Douglas write-up doesn't expressly address the issue, either way. It
is not unreasonable to speculate that he may have been in the civilian employ
of McDonald Douglass, and was called back to active duty.

Note: the design and fabrication work for the lead sled components and
instrumentation was done at Mcdonald Douglas facilities in St. Louis, and
the objects sent to Bonneville for actual use. Even if Murphy was an Air
Force, rather than civilian, member of the project, it's probable he would
have been in St. Louis, rather than at Bonneville, and _would_ have had to
fly out to debug the problem.



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