Good idea, lousy execution
 

http://tinyurl.com/yevmxk

The concept makes a lot of sense. A small rotating blade at the end of
a stick.
I thought: "how bad can it be?"
What did I expect?
Not much.
I got waaaay less than that. A 4 amp motor isn't going to do much, but
if geared down, it could be useful in some applications....and for 69
bucks...what-the-hey?
It cut about 1 to 1 1/2" into 1/2" acrylic and the motor would trip. It
would restart in a couple of seconds and trip again. Sloooooow feed? 1
1/2" and trip.
Canadian Tire was kind enough to refund my money. They're good that
way.

Too bad, really, it is such a good idea. Imagine Festool or Fein doing
something like that, eh? (Yup... becoming a snob.)

BTW, I already had a couple of Makitas 5091D's.. very useful with their
carbide blades. A priceless little saw. I wish it was tailed. I got
sick and tired of buying their seemingly abandoned 12volt batteries.
The bulk of their operations are now done with my Fein MultiMaster. Am
I missing anything that somebody else manufactures? Preferably a
plug-in device?

r ----who is starting to feel christmassy already...must be the
tunes...

Good idea, lousy execution
 

There's the PC 4.5" trim saw, it's corded. At 4.5A, it is
similarly gutless.

I continue to be surprised that nobody offers power adapters, nor
even makes it easy to replace the cells in the pack. Whole thing is a
big scam, as far as I can tell.

Of course, at 12 V and probably 600 W of power, your Makita must draw
around 50 amps... only transformers I have that do that are battery
chargers and MIG welders. Lucky it's 12V though... pretty common.

Robatoy wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/yevmxk

The concept makes a lot of sense. A small rotating blade at the end of
a stick.
I thought: "how bad can it be?"
What did I expect?
Not much.
I got waaaay less than that. A 4 amp motor isn't going to do much, but
if geared down, it could be useful in some applications....and for 69
bucks...what-the-hey?
It cut about 1 to 1 1/2" into 1/2" acrylic and the motor would trip. It
would restart in a couple of seconds and trip again. Sloooooow feed? 1
1/2" and trip.
Canadian Tire was kind enough to refund my money. They're good that
way.

Too bad, really, it is such a good idea. Imagine Festool or Fein doing
something like that, eh? (Yup... becoming a snob.)

BTW, I already had a couple of Makitas 5091D's.. very useful with their
carbide blades. A priceless little saw. I wish it was tailed. I got
sick and tired of buying their seemingly abandoned 12volt batteries.
The bulk of their operations are now done with my Fein MultiMaster. Am
I missing anything that somebody else manufactures? Preferably a
plug-in device?

r ----who is starting to feel christmassy already...must be the
tunes...

Good idea, lousy execution
 

wrote:
There's the PC 4.5" trim saw, it's corded. At 4.5A, it is
similarly gutless.

I continue to be surprised that nobody offers power adapters, nor
even makes it easy to replace the cells in the pack. Whole thing is a
big scam, as far as I can tell.

Of course, at 12 V and probably 600 W of power, your Makita must draw
around 50 amps... only transformers I have that do that are battery
chargers and MIG welders. Lucky it's 12V though... pretty common.


I have thought about a wire to a car battery. I have a few dead Makita
batteries that I can 'convert' to a plug.
A grommet here or there... should work.

Good idea, lousy execution
 

Robatoy wrote:
Too bad, really, it is such a good idea. Imagine Festool or Fein doing
something like that, eh? (Yup... becoming a snob.)

LOL, I know that's a dig at me, but I did not imply to say that in the
other thread.
Not worth explaining my position again, but I truly meant no offense.

Good idea, lousy execution
 

r:

How about this bad boy? http://tinyurl.com/y6wg5s

I don't know about the new ones sold here, but some of the old ones I
see on the job have been in service literally for 25+ years, when
they were a Rockwell tool. The older ones I used were solid as a
brick, steady as a stone when cutting, and since they are worm drive
they easily cut counter tops, and stock up to an inch or so thick.

Don't know about the newer models, but occasionally I see the old ones
on Ebay at really reasonable prices. I have had excellent luck buying
tools on Ebay, and as long as I have been really careful and asked a
lot of questions before bidding, it has been great for me. (I just
bought an incredible once or twice used Milwaukee half sheet sander
with a pile of sandpaper and the brand new in the cardboard metal case
for it for $94 to the door - normal price $175 plus shipping and NO
box.)

Reading the reviews on the Amazon link above it shows that some were
unhappy with the machine out of the box. Might want to check on that
locally so you can get a good one. With the quality control (or lack
thereof) on the tools I am buying these days no matter what I spend, I
always try to give them a good once over and workout when I buy them.

That's a pretty cool saw made for hard use. Lemme know what you
think...

Robert

Good idea, lousy execution
 

Subject

SFWIW

My tenant uses a 77 with a metal abrasive cut off blade to cut
polyester/glass laminate.

Since molded counter tops are polyester with talc filler, same rig might
also do a good job cutting them.

Dust control is an issue.

Lew

Good idea, lousy execution
 

bf wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
Too bad, really, it is such a good idea. Imagine Festool or Fein doing
something like that, eh? (Yup... becoming a snob.)

LOL, I know that's a dig at me, but I did not imply to say that in the
other thread.
Not worth explaining my position again, but I truly meant no offense.

As anybody here will tell you, a dig here and there is not beyond me.
*S*..BUT..
I have no idea to what thou referreth. Honestly.
Refresh my memory, so I may gloat a little?

G

r

Good idea, lousy execution
 

Robatoy wrote:
Canadian Tire was kind enough to refund my money. They're good that
way.

[OT] As opposed to "but their webmaster s*cks"? Tried to view the page
yesterday and now, but had to go to Canada Post to find a postal code
first. Here's one for other people that didn't get in: M4P 1V8 [OT]

As to the machine itself: although I like the design, not for me,
thanks. As a newbie, I want to be mobile and be able to cut more than
1-5/16 inch on the spot. Is a circular saw really that much less precise?
In relation to the Porter Cable referred to by nailshooter41, I noticed
Morris Dovey works with a similar design, maybe you could ask him.
See here for Morris's machine: http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/OFT_06m.jpg
(210kB) and he http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/outfeed.html for the page
it is on with some text from Morris.

--
Best regards,
Vriendelijke groeten,
Meilleures salutations,

Flint

Good idea, lousy execution
 

Robatoy wrote:
bf wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
Too bad, really, it is such a good idea. Imagine Festool or Fein doing
something like that, eh? (Yup... becoming a snob.)

LOL, I know that's a dig at me, but I did not imply to say that in the
other thread.
Not worth explaining my position again, but I truly meant no offense.

As anybody here will tell you, a dig here and there is not beyond me.
*S*..BUT..
I have no idea to what thou referreth. Honestly.
Refresh my memory, so I may gloat a little?

G

r

Weren't we haven't a little disagreement when I said that part of the
reason that Fein/Festool are expensive is because some people like it
as a status symbol, and if it was cheap they wouldn't buy it? (Note,
only part of the reason, I'm sure they are good tools).

I got the impression that irritated you a bit, but maybe it was someone
else.. no big deal..

I just wanted to make it clear that I wasn't saying that people that
buy Fein/Festool are "suckers" or "snobs" or anything like that.. I
didn't intend to offend anyone.

Good idea, lousy execution
 

Flex Flint wrote:

See here for Morris's machine: http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/OFT_06m.jpg

Same exact saw I referred to earlier. However, if I had just one saw,
this little one would not be it. I have a couple of Makitas that were
picked after going through several to get the kind of cutting I want.

I never lend those out, nor do I let anyone else use them. They have
really tight bearings, and the shoe is really close to square to the
blade.

I use a differnet saw for general work, and that I have a pretty rugged
Bosch saw and it works great for 90% of the work I do.

I am sure that Robatoy who also does craftwork for a living has the saw
of his choice to chew through large stock. He was asking about a
particular type of saw, not an all around saw.

Robert