Shepherd crook
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This maybe off topic, but I need to make a better shepherds crook. Ones I have purchased are worthless after about a year as the 'crook' opens up and makes it impossible to catch a goat (I raise meat goats). The purchased variety are made of oak and seem to be steam bent. My thoughts a - Steam bend one myself. Would using green wood, maybe ash, make the bend more permanent? - Make the bend with thin strips and epoxy (a laminate). |
Shepherd crook
"Terrence J Smith" wrote Guys: This maybe off topic, but I need to make a better shepherds crook. Ones I have purchased are worthless after about a year as the 'crook' opens up and makes it impossible to catch a goat (I raise meat goats). The purchased variety are made of oak and seem to be steam bent. My thoughts a - Steam bend one myself. Would using green wood, maybe ash, make the bend more permanent? - Make the bend with thin strips and epoxy (a laminate). Sounds like an interesting project. But most of us have no idea what you are asking for here. It might be an idea to provide a link so we can look at it. After all, it is hard to provide ideas and advice on something that we have never seen. Also, are these shepherds crooks that expensive? Buying one each year may be a totally sensible expense and a lot less bother. |
Shepherd crook
Here is a link. I haven't tried one of these. The ones I have gotten locally
are about $25 plus shipping. I think it would be fun to make my own anyway. http://www.nicetoys.com/chbcountrysticks.html Terry "Lee Michaels" wrote in message . .. "Terrence J Smith" wrote Guys: This maybe off topic, but I need to make a better shepherds crook. Ones I have purchased are worthless after about a year as the 'crook' opens up and makes it impossible to catch a goat (I raise meat goats). The purchased variety are made of oak and seem to be steam bent. My thoughts a - Steam bend one myself. Would using green wood, maybe ash, make the bend more permanent? - Make the bend with thin strips and epoxy (a laminate). Sounds like an interesting project. But most of us have no idea what you are asking for here. It might be an idea to provide a link so we can look at it. After all, it is hard to provide ideas and advice on something that we have never seen. Also, are these shepherds crooks that expensive? Buying one each year may be a totally sensible expense and a lot less bother. |
Shepherd crook
Terrence J Smith wrote:
Guys: This maybe off topic, but I need to make a better shepherds crook. Ones I have purchased are worthless after about a year as the 'crook' opens up and makes it impossible to catch a goat (I raise meat goats). It seems like at least some of the commercial ones use aluminum and/or fiberglass. If you want to stick with wood, what about something laminated from multiple layers and glued together (in a curved press) with epoxy? Chris |
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Terrence J Smith wrote:
Guys: This maybe off topic, but I need to make a better shepherds crook. Ones I have purchased are worthless after about a year as the 'crook' opens up and makes it impossible to catch a goat (I raise meat goats). The purchased variety are made of oak and seem to be steam bent. My thoughts a - Steam bend one myself. Would using green wood, maybe ash, make the bend more permanent? - Make the bend with thin strips and epoxy (a laminate). It would be rather straight forward to make one using knitted fiberglass and epoxy. Lew |
Shepherd crook
Terrence J Smith wrote:
Guys: This maybe off topic, but I need to make a better shepherds crook. Ones I have purchased are worthless after about a year as the 'crook' opens up and makes it impossible to catch a goat (I raise meat goats). The purchased variety are made of oak and seem to be steam bent. My thoughts a - Steam bend one myself. Would using green wood, maybe ash, make the bend more permanent? - Make the bend with thin strips and epoxy (a laminate). Have you looked on ebay? -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
Shepherd crook
Lee Michaels wrote: But most of us have no idea what you are asking for here. It might be an idea to provide a link so we can look at it. After all, it is hard to provide ideas and advice on something that we have never seen. Who's we. I'd bet most folks know what a shepherd crook is. |
Shepherd crook
Well, I think it would take a bit of experimentation as far as the
steam bending goes. Might I suggest you make a crook that you can change out the heads on? Say something that's double pinned or a good screw thread. I think in all cases with the steam bending they will open up eventually because of the stress you're placing on the bend. Snagging a goat weighing in anywhere from 8 to say 50 lbs. (I'm guessing) will do that. A glue-laminated crook might hold up just as long but I think when it gives up it might give up with a snap rather than just opening a bit. Another thought would be asking if you had looked into re-enforcing a crook with a fiberglass and resin wrap? On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 11:03:49 -0400, "Terrence J Smith" wrote: Guys: This maybe off topic, but I need to make a better shepherds crook. Ones I have purchased are worthless after about a year as the 'crook' opens up and makes it impossible to catch a goat (I raise meat goats). The purchased variety are made of oak and seem to be steam bent. My thoughts a - Steam bend one myself. Would using green wood, maybe ash, make the bend more permanent? - Make the bend with thin strips and epoxy (a laminate). |
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"J T" wrote in message
Personally my choice for catching a goat would probably be just to shoot it. Damn, makes me hungry, just thinking about cabrito. When I was a kid, for catching chickens we'd use a piece of stiff wire with a "crook" bent into one end, then snag a leg. Way too much trouble ... wait til dark, or use a leftover from 4th of July/New Year's baby giant firecracker ... works OK on chickens, but best on guinea hens. /evil mode -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 10/01/06 |
Shepherd crook
Terrence J Smith wrote: Guys: This maybe off topic, but I need to make a better shepherds crook. Ones I have purchased are worthless after about a year as the 'crook' opens up and makes it impossible to catch a goat (I raise meat goats). The purchased variety are made of oak and seem to be steam bent. My thoughts a - Steam bend one myself. Would using green wood, maybe ash, make the bend more permanent? - Make the bend with thin strips and epoxy (a laminate). Why not the old fashioned way? Find a branch with a hook already in it and cut it off, or failing that, find a branch with a fork in it and whittle the fork into a smoother curve. I must be missing something, this seems too obvious, H |
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Terrence J Smith wrote: Guys: This maybe off topic, but I need to make a better shepherds crook. Ones I have purchased are worthless after about a year as the 'crook' opens up and makes it impossible to catch a goat (I raise meat goats). The purchased variety are made of oak and seem to be steam bent. My thoughts a - Steam bend one myself. Would using green wood, maybe ash, make the bend more permanent? - Make the bend with thin strips and epoxy (a laminate). On diy, David Marks did a bent laminate lamp project that might be applicable. There is information on the diy web site about the forms used and the technique. Episode WWK-512 http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/shows_..._26962,00.html |
Shepherd crook
Terrence J Smith wrote:
Guys: This maybe off topic, but I need to make a better shepherds crook. Ones I have purchased are worthless after about a year as the 'crook' opens up and makes it impossible to catch a goat (I raise meat goats). The purchased variety are made of oak and seem to be steam bent. My thoughts a - Steam bend one myself. Would using green wood, maybe ash, make the bend more permanent? - Make the bend with thin strips and epoxy (a laminate). Long ago and far away I knew an old man who made walking sticks. He took a green stick and bent it around and wired it and stuck it in the attic of his shop. The next year he took it down, and if it was not cracked, cut and trimmed and finished the stick. -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA A Smith & Wesson *ALWAYS* beats 4 Aces. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Lee Michaels" writes:
Sounds like an interesting project. But most of us have no idea what you are asking for here. It might be an idea to provide a link so we can look at it. After all, it is hard to provide ideas and advice on something that we have never seen. Look for a picture of "Mary Had a Little Lamb." :-) -- Sending unsolicited commercial e-mail to this account incurs a fee of $500 per message, and acknowledges the legality of this contract. |
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"Bruce Barnett" wrote in message ... "Lee Michaels" writes: Sounds like an interesting project. But most of us have no idea what you are asking for here. It might be an idea to provide a link so we can look at it. After all, it is hard to provide ideas and advice on something that we have never seen. Look for a picture of "Mary Had a Little Lamb." :-) Yes, I know all the traditional "looks" of shepards staff. But he made mention of "catching" goats for dinner. Having raised goats, I know that a great big "crook" commonly associated with this kind of staff would not slow down the goat at all. That was the comfusion. |
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I would bet most on here do know what it is.
"Lee Michaels" wrote in message But most of us have no idea what you are asking for here. It might be an idea to provide a link so we can look at it. After all, it is hard to provide ideas and advice on something that we have never seen. Also, are these shepherds crooks that expensive? Buying one each year may be a totally sensible expense and a lot less bother. |
Shepherd crook
"Terrence J Smith" wrote in message ... Guys: This maybe off topic, but I need to make a better shepherds crook. Ones I have purchased are worthless after about a year as the 'crook' opens up and makes it impossible to catch a goat (I raise meat goats). The purchased variety are made of oak and seem to be steam bent. My thoughts a - Steam bend one myself. Would using green wood, maybe ash, make the bend more permanent? - Make the bend with thin strips and epoxy (a laminate). I looked it up in a book for you -John Seymour the Forgotten Arts. There are various ways of making walking sticks and crooks. Laminating is not a traditional method and would be comparitively laborious. He mentions three: Heat to bend the hook of a walking stick. Growing ash saplings with weights and formers to make them grow the right shape. And particularly for larger crooks - you find a long thin branch growing from a much thicker one, and cut out from the tree the whole piece, so that you have a shape a bit like an enormous tobacco pipe. From the 'bowl' of the pipe you saw and then whittle and carve the hook of the crook. Ask me if I am not making it clear Tim w |
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