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Richard Cranium September 24th 06 02:43 AM

Board Buddies
 
I was thinking of getting a pair of Board Buddies for my table saw.
Has anyone else tried these and do they work as advertised?

I'm mainly interested in the claim that they keep the work against the
fence.

Thanks,
R.C.

arw01 September 24th 06 03:09 AM

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I'm mainly interested in the claim that they keep the work against the
fence.

I _rarely_ use mine as I find them a pain to push stock through the cut
when you use them.

They DO keep the wood out of the blade though, you can actually stop
midway in a cut, walk to the back of the tablesaw and pull the rest of
the cut through with no indication of where the blade was.

Alan


Morris Dovey September 24th 06 03:19 AM

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Richard Cranium (in ) said:

| I was thinking of getting a pair of Board Buddies for my table saw.
| Has anyone else tried these and do they work as advertised?

I have a pair (yellow) and they _do_ work as advertised. I've mounted
mine atop an Incra fence. I'd buy 'em again. I will say, though, that
when I don't want to use them, they're a PIA to remove and re-install.
YMMV.

| I'm mainly interested in the claim that they keep the work against
| the fence.

With one mounted just in front of the blade; and one mounted just
behind the blade, mine do that fairly well.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
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Larry Blanchard September 24th 06 03:45 AM

Board Buddies
 
Richard Cranium wrote:

I was thinking of getting a pair of Board Buddies for my table saw.
Has anyone else tried these and do they work as advertised?


I looked at a lot of variations on a theme and I wound up with these:

http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPR...?PARTNUM=96974

I'm mainly interested in the claim that they keep the work against the
fence.


The ones referenced above can be angled inward slightly to hold firmly against
the fence.

--
It's turtles, all the way down

Dennis September 24th 06 06:27 AM

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I have used the old Liechtung version of those which is now sold by
woodworkers supply http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPR...?PARTNUM=96974
They have been a trusted safety friend for almost 13 years now. With them
close to the fence, you can rip boards as narrow as 2" and still use a push
stick. For anything that narrow or narrower, I just push a sacrificial
"stick" right behind the stock and into the blade until the plank passes by
the blade.

They work great..... but as the other posts have mentioned, for very thin
and or very narrow rips, they must be removed. They also work good on the
router table as well.

Give em a try!

Dennis

Dennis Slabaugh, Hobbyist Woodworker
www.woodworkinghobby.com



"Richard Cranium" wrote in message
...
I was thinking of getting a pair of Board Buddies for my table saw.
Has anyone else tried these and do they work as advertised?

I'm mainly interested in the claim that they keep the work against the
fence.

Thanks,
R.C.




Larry Blanchard September 24th 06 04:55 PM

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Dennis wrote:

I have used the old Liechtung version of those which is now sold by
woodworkers supply http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPR...?PARTNUM=96974
They have been a trusted safety friend for almost 13 years now.


IIRC, that's where I got mine as well - and about the same time or even
earlier. They do seem to last :-).

--
It's turtles, all the way down

mac davis September 24th 06 06:26 PM

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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:45:46 -0700, Larry Blanchard wrote:

Richard Cranium wrote:

I was thinking of getting a pair of Board Buddies for my table saw.
Has anyone else tried these and do they work as advertised?


I looked at a lot of variations on a theme and I wound up with these:

http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPR...?PARTNUM=96974

I'm mainly interested in the claim that they keep the work against the
fence.


The ones referenced above can be angled inward slightly to hold firmly against
the fence.


Larry... I like the idea of these, but wonder if the angle of the wheels are
enough to eliminate the need for feather boards?
My concern would be that it appears that you couldn't use feather boards with
them?

Mac

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Lew Hodgett September 24th 06 07:28 PM

Board Buddies
 
Richard Cranium wrote:

I was thinking of getting a pair of Board Buddies for my table saw.
Has anyone else tried these and do they work as advertised?

snip

I ripped about 1 mile of 5/8x1-1/2 battens from 2x12x24 ft Doug Fir
construction lumber using a ShopSmith and B/B.

Couldn't have done the job without them; however, these days, don't use
them very often.

Lew

Richard Cranium September 24th 06 08:15 PM

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It seems that all of you like them. Also all seem to agree they're a
slight pain to remove for narrow cuts. Based on your feedback I just
ordered a set and I'll give them a try.

Thanks again, I appreciate it!

R.C.

Larry Blanchard September 25th 06 03:21 AM

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mac davis wrote:

Larry... I like the idea of these, but wonder if the angle of the wheels are
enough to eliminate the need for feather boards?


All I can tell you is I've never used featherboards while ripping with them.
I do use featherboards when ripping very narrow stock where the wheels get in
the way.

My concern would be that it appears that you couldn't use feather boards
with them?


I usually put one wheel just ahead of the blade and the other just behind the
blade. No reason you couldn't use a featherboard in between the two, either
horizontal or vertical.

--
It's turtles, all the way down

mac davis September 25th 06 04:32 PM

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On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:21:45 -0700, Larry Blanchard wrote:

mac davis wrote:

Larry... I like the idea of these, but wonder if the angle of the wheels are
enough to eliminate the need for feather boards?


All I can tell you is I've never used featherboards while ripping with them.
I do use featherboards when ripping very narrow stock where the wheels get in
the way.

My concern would be that it appears that you couldn't use feather boards
with them?


I usually put one wheel just ahead of the blade and the other just behind the
blade. No reason you couldn't use a featherboard in between the two, either
horizontal or vertical.


Cool.. thanks, Larry..
Mac

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mac davis September 25th 06 04:33 PM

Board Buddies
 
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 05:38:50 GMT, wrote:

I use them and they work great for keeping the stock against the
fence. I have mine mounted 2 degrees toward the rear of fence to make
sure they work correctly.

When you dont want to use them just loosen the two thumb screws and
slide them off leaving the bases mounted all the time.

I would buy them again.

Gary

Gary... between your comments and larry's, it would seem that you can cut safely
without feather boards... that cuts down setup time, also..
Mac

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Teamcasa September 25th 06 09:39 PM

Board Buddies
 

"Richard Cranium" wrote in message
...
I was thinking of getting a pair of Board Buddies for my table saw.
Has anyone else tried these and do they work as advertised?

I'm mainly interested in the claim that they keep the work against the
fence.

Thanks,
R.C.


They are OK. However, I have a set I picked up at a woodworking show a
dozen years ago. I almost never use them. The only time they really work
is on the router table when doing a pattern that requires consistent
pressure and the work piece is too small to control by hand. OTT, they sit
collecting the same dust as many other gizmos I get suckered into at the
shows.

Dave



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B A R R Y September 26th 06 01:53 PM

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Teamcasa wrote:
OTT, they sit
collecting the same dust as many other gizmos I get suckered into at the
shows.


It's an amazing day when you realize that so many "gizmos" are just
shelf ballast. G

Over time, I've gotten lots of good advice here and on the web, taken
some EXCELLENT formal training, created lots of firewood by trial and
mostly error, and spent some quality time with helpful locals.
Eventually, you realize that the chubby Dane in the cheesy black and
white pictures and so much of the experience I've mentioned in the
previous sentence agrees, so all the "gizmos" end up on eBay (thank God
for eBay for $$ recycling! G).

As Connecticut's woodworking season has recently opened G, I was
updating my shop inventory and enjoying some Sierra Nevada Pale Ale and
XM, this past weekend. My last update was five years ago. The shocker
was that I probably now own _fewer_ tools, but the quality is
dramatically different. Many WW'ing show gizmos have been replaced with
jigs made from scrap.

I never imagined an insurance inventory could create so much introspection!

Swingman September 26th 06 02:13 PM

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"B A R R Y" wrote in message

Many WW'ing show gizmos have been replaced with
jigs made from scrap.


What that signifies, unequivocally, is that you are waaaaay past the newbie
stage!

I never imagined an insurance inventory could create so much

introspection!

LOL ... I just did the same thing. My Excel spreadsheet, and my insurance
company, thank me.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 8/29/06



B A R R Y September 26th 06 02:22 PM

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Swingman wrote:
My Excel spreadsheet,


That's exactly how I do it.

One tab is anything that runs on electricity (stationary, hand held, or
battery) or air. Tab two is human powered. Another is "accessories",
a.k.a. the shrinking page. G The last is blades and bits.

The "blades and bits" section can be kind of a shocker. Since a good
10" blade or raised panel router bit typically exceeds a hand held power
tool's cost, it makes sense. I also added a column here to keep track
of sharpening data.

The last time I updated the records was 2001, I really have got to get
in the habit of keeping it up.

arw01 September 26th 06 03:03 PM

Board Buddies
 


I have used the old Liechtung version of those which is now sold by
woodworkers supply http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPR...?PARTNUM=96974
They have been a trusted safety friend for almost 13 years now.



They look like what David Marks uses on his tablesaw on Woodworks.

Alan


mac davis September 26th 06 04:48 PM

Board Buddies
 
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:39:07 -0700, "Teamcasa" wrote:

They are OK. However, I have a set I picked up at a woodworking show a
dozen years ago. I almost never use them. The only time they really work
is on the router table when doing a pattern that requires consistent
pressure and the work piece is too small to control by hand. OTT, they sit
collecting the same dust as many other gizmos I get suckered into at the
shows.

Dave


Dave... bring them to El Dorado when you come down.....
I'll find a home for them in the new shop.. *g*


Mac

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Teamcasa September 26th 06 09:51 PM

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"mac davis" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:39:07 -0700, "Teamcasa"
wrote:

They are OK. However, I have a set I picked up at a woodworking show a
dozen years ago. I almost never use them. The only time they really work
is on the router table when doing a pattern that requires consistent
pressure and the work piece is too small to control by hand. OTT, they sit
collecting the same dust as many other gizmos I get suckered into at the
shows.

Dave


Dave... bring them to El Dorado when you come down.....
I'll find a home for them in the new shop.. *g*


I would be to embarrased to declare them!
When do you move in? Soon right?
Dave
I just returned from house building on the outskirts of Tecate - man was the
weather great!



bf September 27th 06 04:17 AM

Board Buddies
 

Richard Cranium wrote:
I was thinking of getting a pair of Board Buddies for my table saw.
Has anyone else tried these and do they work as advertised?

I'm mainly interested in the claim that they keep the work against the
fence.

Thanks,
R.C.


My opinion: They are great for a router table as a substitute for
featherboards (most of the time).

On a tablesaw, they get in the way a bit. But yes, they do help hold
the wood against the fence.


mac davis September 27th 06 03:52 PM

Board Buddies
 
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:51:46 -0700, "Teamcasa" wrote:


Dave... bring them to El Dorado when you come down.....
I'll find a home for them in the new shop.. *g*


I would be to embarrased to declare them!
When do you move in? Soon right?
Dave



Run through the non-declare line at the border... If you get the red light and
they claim that they're worth more than the $300 allowed, just say "sold"... lol

The moving truck gets here on Oct. 12th...
Assuming that the truck, my tools and wood and the household stuff clears
customs, we'll start moving in on about the 15th...

Oddly enough, the biggest problem that the mover sees so far is my wood!
I supplied him with pictures so he'd have a chance to talk to the border folks,
but 40 or 50 short logs are not your usual "household personal property" and
they might be taxed or confiscated..

Not sure if it's a pest control problem or that they think I'm smuggling
firewood.. going to be a bitch finding stuff to turn bowls from if they
confiscate it!
Mac

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Teamcasa September 28th 06 05:35 PM

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"mac davis" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:51:46 -0700, "Teamcasa"
wrote:


Dave... bring them to El Dorado when you come down.....
I'll find a home for them in the new shop.. *g*


I would be to embarrased to declare them!
When do you move in? Soon right?
Dave



Run through the non-declare line at the border... If you get the red light
and
they claim that they're worth more than the $300 allowed, just say
"sold"... lol

The moving truck gets here on Oct. 12th...
Assuming that the truck, my tools and wood and the household stuff clears
customs, we'll start moving in on about the 15th...

Oddly enough, the biggest problem that the mover sees so far is my wood!
I supplied him with pictures so he'd have a chance to talk to the border
folks,
but 40 or 50 short logs are not your usual "household personal property"
and
they might be taxed or confiscated..

Not sure if it's a pest control problem or that they think I'm smuggling
firewood.. going to be a bitch finding stuff to turn bowls from if they
confiscate it!
Mac


Mac, Are you using a customs broker and have you started your pedimento
documents? I believe, as a new resident of Mexico, you can bring all of
your property without having to pay an importation tax. I maybe (and am
frequently) wrong but I do know you will need a customs agent.

Dave



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mac davis September 29th 06 04:58 PM

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On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:35:13 -0700, "Teamcasa" wrote:


The moving truck gets here on Oct. 12th...
Assuming that the truck, my tools and wood and the household stuff clears
customs, we'll start moving in on about the 15th...

Oddly enough, the biggest problem that the mover sees so far is my wood!
I supplied him with pictures so he'd have a chance to talk to the border
folks,
but 40 or 50 short logs are not your usual "household personal property"
and
they might be taxed or confiscated..

Not sure if it's a pest control problem or that they think I'm smuggling
firewood.. going to be a bitch finding stuff to turn bowls from if they
confiscate it!
Mac


Mac, Are you using a customs broker and have you started your pedimento
documents? I believe, as a new resident of Mexico, you can bring all of
your property without having to pay an importation tax. I maybe (and am
frequently) wrong but I do know you will need a customs agent.

Dave


We're having San Felipe Storage move us, Dave...
They have a package for $5,000 that includes 2 guys with a semi and 50'
container, a US customs broker and a Mexican customs broker...

We waited to get our FM3 visas (not sure what pedimento is) until the builder
said that the house was less than 2 months from completion... the time frame for
the "duty free window" keeps changing...
It was 90 days, then 60 days and just got changed to 6 months... who know when
that will change...
You have a one time exemption to bring your USED household stuff in without
duty... you have to have your visa, proof of residence in Mx and US, passports,
etc, and "the list"..
After you're completed all the requirements for the FM3, you have to submit your
list to the Mx consulate in the US... listing everything that you're bringing,
in English and Spanish, with the boxes numbered and labeled...
All of my tools have to be listed, with model, serial number, etc....

Once the list is approved by the consulate, you move your stuff to the border
and see if it's easy of hard... if it's hard, they can make it VERY hard, which
is a big reason that we're not moving it ourselves...
Our neighbor just took a fairly small load down and was at the border for over 8
hours before they let him through....
He might have just hit on a bad day or something, but they went through all of
his stuff and even made him leave his hand truck because it wasn't on the
list... He told them that it was to unload with and went back to the US with the
trailer, but they wouldn't let it in!
Mac

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