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Toller September 14th 06 08:12 PM

Dying red oak to match?
 
I am making a table out of 7 pieces of red oak.
5 pieces are kiln dried and have a pink color.
2 pieces are air dried and are pretty white.
All the wood has been in my basement for over a year (presumably it is all
the same moisture content)
I will be putting minwax Spanish oak over all (to match everything else in
the room).

Does the pink color have anything to do with kiln drying, or is it just
variance between different trees?
I can dye the white wood before staining to match the pink wood. Is a match
today likely to hold up over the years?




dpb September 14th 06 10:23 PM

Dying red oak to match?
 

Toller wrote:
I am making a table out of 7 pieces of red oak.
5 pieces are kiln dried and have a pink color.
2 pieces are air dried and are pretty white.

....

Does the pink color have anything to do with kiln drying, or is it just
variance between different trees?
I can dye the white wood before staining to match the pink wood. Is a match
today likely to hold up over the years?


Some is owing to differences between trees, some is probably the
difference between heartwood and sapwood (like the white in walnut
except not nearly as pronounced). In oak the color isn't affected all
that much in drying and rarely is red oak steamed as is walnut to cause
the migration of pigment to minimize the color difference of the
sapwood.

Undoubtedly it will have some variation as the stain reacts w/ the UV
but probably won't become terribly mismatched. That, however, isn't
possible to predict with certainty, of course.


Locutus September 14th 06 10:35 PM

Dying red oak to match?
 

"Toller" wrote in message
...

I can dye the white wood before staining to match the pink wood. Is a
match today likely to hold up over the years?


Have any scraps or cutoffs you can test with?



none September 14th 06 11:21 PM

Dying red oak to match?
 
Toller wrote:
I am making a table out of 7 pieces of red oak.
5 pieces are kiln dried and have a pink color.
2 pieces are air dried and are pretty white.
All the wood has been in my basement for over a year (presumably it is all
the same moisture content)
I will be putting minwax Spanish oak over all (to match everything else in
the room).

Does the pink color have anything to do with kiln drying, or is it just
variance between different trees?
I can dye the white wood before staining to match the pink wood. Is a match
today likely to hold up over the years?



Responses from this group would be

1 DAWGS
2 Buy a book and read it
3 Take a freaking woodworking course

Good Day

Toller September 15th 06 12:26 AM

Dying red oak to match?
 

"none" wrote in message
...
Toller wrote:
I am making a table out of 7 pieces of red oak.
5 pieces are kiln dried and have a pink color.
2 pieces are air dried and are pretty white.
All the wood has been in my basement for over a year (presumably it is
all the same moisture content)
I will be putting minwax Spanish oak over all (to match everything else
in the room).

Does the pink color have anything to do with kiln drying, or is it just
variance between different trees?
I can dye the white wood before staining to match the pink wood. Is a
match today likely to hold up over the years?



Responses from this group would be

1 DAWGS
2 Buy a book and read it
3 Take a freaking woodworking course

Darn clever!
I bet you mumble when you talk, right?



gadgetman September 15th 06 02:42 AM

Dying red oak to match?
 

Toller wrote:
I am making a table out of 7 pieces of red oak.
5 pieces are kiln dried and have a pink color.
2 pieces are air dried and are pretty white.
All the wood has been in my basement for over a year (presumably it is all
the same moisture content)
I will be putting minwax Spanish oak over all (to match everything else in
the room).

Does the pink color have anything to do with kiln drying, or is it just
variance between different trees?
I can dye the white wood before staining to match the pink wood. Is a match
today likely to hold up over the years?


You can try to blend stains with a little yellow or pink for the pink
part and try to minimize the difference. Don't remember a lot of red
oak which is white (oak). Mixing and matching if fairly easy - do a
test piece first - and covers a multitude of sins. Also, yellow or
amber often will even out colors - often in oil based varnish or water
based designed to mimic the oil base.
Will water based dyes, you can make any color you want to blend
regions.
don't be afraid to try them. also, be sure and match the grain boards
as well as possible to minimize contrast which, if you don't, will
highlight any inconsistency in your boards.

mbr



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