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G. Doughty September 3rd 06 08:34 PM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 
Hello,

My wife and I just bought a brand new, beautiful, expensive armoire. It was
delivered, but it was so deep that I had to take the molding off the door to
get it into the bedroom. Anyways, when the guys brought it in, they still
managed to have paint from the jamb rub onto the piece. The guys told me,
"No big deal, just softly rub the paint with nail polish remover." OK,
well, being the dummy I am, I tried it. The paint is gone, but so is the
stain. I know have faded splotches where the paint used to be, and a rag
with a bunch of stain on it. I did not even rub hard. Anyways, any ideas
about how to fix this? The armoire is made of mahogoney

Thanks
greg



boorite September 3rd 06 09:23 PM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 

G. Doughty wrote:
Hello,

My wife and I just bought a brand new, beautiful, expensive armoire. It was
delivered, but it was so deep that I had to take the molding off the door to
get it into the bedroom. Anyways, when the guys brought it in, they still
managed to have paint from the jamb rub onto the piece. The guys told me,
"No big deal, just softly rub the paint with nail polish remover." OK,
well, being the dummy I am, I tried it. The paint is gone, but so is the
stain. I know have faded splotches where the paint used to be, and a rag
with a bunch of stain on it. I did not even rub hard. Anyways, any ideas
about how to fix this? The armoire is made of mahogoney


Try Minwax Stain Markers or DAP Blend Sticks.

--Scott


boorite September 3rd 06 10:41 PM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 
boorite wrote:
G. Doughty wrote:
Hello,

My wife and I just bought a brand new, beautiful, expensive armoire. It was
delivered, but it was so deep that I had to take the molding off the door to
get it into the bedroom. Anyways, when the guys brought it in, they still
managed to have paint from the jamb rub onto the piece. The guys told me,
"No big deal, just softly rub the paint with nail polish remover." OK,
well, being the dummy I am, I tried it. The paint is gone, but so is the
stain. I know have faded splotches where the paint used to be, and a rag
with a bunch of stain on it. I did not even rub hard. Anyways, any ideas
about how to fix this? The armoire is made of mahogoney


Try Minwax Stain Markers or DAP Blend Sticks.


PS: If it looks like youre not going to get the results you want from
the stain crayons and such, you probably just have to pay to have it
repaired.


G. Doughty September 3rd 06 10:50 PM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 
We do have a great warranty. They will come out to the house and fix it . .
.. if it can be fixed that way. I REALLY don't want to try to move this
behemoth. I will try the first options you suggested. It's only wood,
right?

Thanks
Greg
ki4bbl



"boorite" wrote in message
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boorite wrote:
G. Doughty wrote:
Hello,

My wife and I just bought a brand new, beautiful, expensive armoire.
It was
delivered, but it was so deep that I had to take the molding off the
door to
get it into the bedroom. Anyways, when the guys brought it in, they
still
managed to have paint from the jamb rub onto the piece. The guys told
me,
"No big deal, just softly rub the paint with nail polish remover." OK,
well, being the dummy I am, I tried it. The paint is gone, but so is
the
stain. I know have faded splotches where the paint used to be, and a
rag
with a bunch of stain on it. I did not even rub hard. Anyways, any
ideas
about how to fix this? The armoire is made of mahogoney


Try Minwax Stain Markers or DAP Blend Sticks.


PS: If it looks like youre not going to get the results you want from
the stain crayons and such, you probably just have to pay to have it
repaired.




C & E September 3rd 06 11:12 PM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 

"G. Doughty" wrote in message
news:_6IKg.9911$xk3.6496@dukeread07...

snip

It's only wood,
right?


Aaaaargh!!!! My ears -er eyes, my eyes!!!! THe gods of the forest and all
worshipping Druids cringe at your profanity!!



G. Doughty September 3rd 06 11:20 PM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 
I wish it were as easy as that, but we spent too much money to just mean
"it's just wood." I knew someone would cringe.


"C & E" wrote in message
...

"G. Doughty" wrote in message
news:_6IKg.9911$xk3.6496@dukeread07...

snip

It's only wood,
right?


Aaaaargh!!!! My ears -er eyes, my eyes!!!! THe gods of the forest and
all worshipping Druids cringe at your profanity!!





Toller September 3rd 06 11:32 PM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 

"G. Doughty" wrote in message
news:J6GKg.9903$xk3.8053@dukeread07...
Hello,

My wife and I just bought a brand new, beautiful, expensive armoire. It
was delivered, but it was so deep that I had to take the molding off the
door to get it into the bedroom. Anyways, when the guys brought it in,
they still managed to have paint from the jamb rub onto the piece. The
guys told me, "No big deal, just softly rub the paint with nail polish
remover." OK, well, being the dummy I am, I tried it. The paint is gone,
but so is the stain. I know have faded splotches where the paint used to
be, and a rag with a bunch of stain on it. I did not even rub hard.
Anyways, any ideas about how to fix this? The armoire is made of
mahogoney

The odds of getting it to blend in is darn near zero.
You really have to refinish it completely.

But... if it really is mahogany it should not be stained. I would try
putting some boiled linseed oil on it and see if that works. Since nothing
else will work, you have nothing to lose.

(I did stain mahogany last year. My wife wanted a table I just made match a
150 year old mahogany desk in the same room, so I had to stain it. It
hurt.)



LRod September 3rd 06 11:33 PM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 
On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:34:00 -0400, "G. Doughty"
wrote:


My wife and I just bought a brand new, beautiful, expensive armoire. It was
delivered, but it was so deep that I had to take the molding off the door to
get it into the bedroom. Anyways, when the guys brought it in, they still
managed to have paint from the jamb rub onto the piece. The guys told me,
"No big deal, just softly rub the paint with nail polish remover." OK,
well, being the dummy I am, I tried it. The paint is gone, but so is the
stain. I know have faded splotches where the paint used to be, and a rag
with a bunch of stain on it. I did not even rub hard. Anyways, any ideas
about how to fix this? The armoire is made of mahogoney


First lesson. Never, ever use nail polish remover as the first level
of test solvent. Acetone (what it really is) is one of the more
agressive of solvents, even more so than lacquer thinner.

Not only should the delivery guys's bosses (presumably the furniture
dealer) be responsible for the repair, but the guy's boss who
recommended the nail polish remover should take him aside for a
corrective interview.

None of this should have fallen on you (including removing the
molding).

K4QG

--
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997

email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.

CW September 3rd 06 11:39 PM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 
If it can be fixed under warranty, don't touch it. Call them first. The
treatment with the nail polish remover may have done in the warranty but,
you never know. If they are willing to fix it, best to let them do it and
not have to deal with any attempts you made. In other words, you may make it
worse.

"G. Doughty" wrote in message
news:_6IKg.9911$xk3.6496@dukeread07...
We do have a great warranty. They will come out to the house and fix it .

..
. if it can be fixed that way. I REALLY don't want to try to move this
behemoth. I will try the first options you suggested. It's only wood,
right?

Thanks
Greg
ki4bbl




CW September 4th 06 12:05 AM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 
Bad advice. The last thing he needs is something that soaks into the wood.
If it doesn't work, it could very well screw up further attempts. Best bet
is to ignore the advice given here and call the store that it was bought
from. Likely it was sprayed with lacquer with a toner added. That seems
pretty standard these days. Fast a cheap.


"Toller" wrote in message
...
But... if it really is mahogany it should not be stained. I would try
putting some boiled linseed oil on it and see if that works. Since

nothing
else will work, you have nothing to lose.




Clint September 4th 06 12:24 AM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 
Second lesson... Test on a hidden area before attempting anything remotely
risky on a frontal type area.

IOW, if you're going to continue mucking around, find a hidden area (bottom,
back, etc), use the acetone to remove a tiny bit of the finish, and see if
you can fix that BEFORE you have at the front.

Personally, I think the idea of trying to get the delivery company or
original manufacturer to fix it is the best idea. But I wouldn't let anyone
from the actual delivery company itself touch it before finding out exactly
what they plan to do. Who knows, maybe the guy who gave you the bad advice
in the first place learned everything he knows from his boss...

Clint

"LRod" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:34:00 -0400, "G. Doughty"
wrote:


My wife and I just bought a brand new, beautiful, expensive armoire. It
was
delivered, but it was so deep that I had to take the molding off the door
to
get it into the bedroom. Anyways, when the guys brought it in, they still
managed to have paint from the jamb rub onto the piece. The guys told me,
"No big deal, just softly rub the paint with nail polish remover." OK,
well, being the dummy I am, I tried it. The paint is gone, but so is the
stain. I know have faded splotches where the paint used to be, and a rag
with a bunch of stain on it. I did not even rub hard. Anyways, any ideas
about how to fix this? The armoire is made of mahogoney


First lesson. Never, ever use nail polish remover as the first level
of test solvent. Acetone (what it really is) is one of the more
agressive of solvents, even more so than lacquer thinner.

Not only should the delivery guys's bosses (presumably the furniture
dealer) be responsible for the repair, but the guy's boss who
recommended the nail polish remover should take him aside for a
corrective interview.

None of this should have fallen on you (including removing the
molding).

K4QG

--
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997

email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.




George Max September 4th 06 12:54 AM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 
On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:34:00 -0400, "G. Doughty"
wrote:

Hello,

My wife and I just bought a brand new, beautiful, expensive armoire. It was
delivered, but it was so deep that I had to take the molding off the door to
get it into the bedroom. Anyways, when the guys brought it in, they still
managed to have paint from the jamb rub onto the piece. The guys told me,
"No big deal, just softly rub the paint with nail polish remover." OK,
well, being the dummy I am, I tried it. The paint is gone, but so is the
stain. I know have faded splotches where the paint used to be, and a rag
with a bunch of stain on it. I did not even rub hard. Anyways, any ideas
about how to fix this? The armoire is made of mahogoney

Thanks
greg


First, delivery to the place you wanted it put is their reponsibility.
They got the paint onto it. A big disappointment to say the least,
but that's also their responsibility. You say you bought a warranty
with the armoire, that should have been what took care of the paint.

If this were mine, I'd be calling them to come fix it at this point.
They might take pity on you and fix it without charge, especially
since it was their guys that told you to do that. But they might not.

I had leather furniture delivered last January. A little early since
we were promised February. Well, I had not yet painted were the
furniture was placed. And in moving it around, I scuffed one corner
pretty bad. Took the finish clean off the leather. They came by, saw
what had happened, knew I did it, and fixed it anyway free of charge.

The bottom line: Even if you made the problem, they might take care
of it anyway free of charge.

Fly-by-Night CC September 4th 06 01:14 AM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 
In article J6GKg.9903$xk3.8053@dukeread07,
"G. Doughty" wrote:

The guys told me,
"No big deal, just softly rub the paint with nail polish remover."


Just for future reference, as LRod said, nail polish remover is acetone
based - and a pretty strong solvent. It'll remove most finishes as well
as dissolve many plastics and vinyls.

In the future if you have a scuff of latex paint to remove, use
isopropyl alcohol or ammonia - that is, unless the finish is shellac.
--
Owen Lowe
The Fly-by-Night Copper Company
_________

There is no "W" in Leadership.

Toller September 4th 06 01:32 AM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 
Penetration of oil into mahogany is very superficial. It would certainly be
removed with whatever removes the other finish.

"CW" wrote in message
ink.net...
Bad advice. The last thing he needs is something that soaks into the wood.
If it doesn't work, it could very well screw up further attempts. Best bet
is to ignore the advice given here and call the store that it was bought
from. Likely it was sprayed with lacquer with a toner added. That seems
pretty standard these days. Fast a cheap.


"Toller" wrote in message
...
But... if it really is mahogany it should not be stained. I would try
putting some boiled linseed oil on it and see if that works. Since

nothing
else will work, you have nothing to lose.






LRod September 4th 06 01:45 AM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 00:32:19 GMT, "Toller" wrote:

Penetration of oil into mahogany is very superficial. It would certainly be
removed with whatever removes the other finish.


By definition, penetration is not superficial.

--
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997

email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.

G. Doughty September 4th 06 02:03 AM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 
Thank you for all the support. I am going to let the repair folks come out
and take a look at it. It's a pretty comprehensive warranty. I just wish I
would have thought about it prior to doing it. The way the delivery guys
made it sound, a little nail polish remover or gasoline( they said that
would work too) would take it right off. That's why I didn't think about
it. We have some antique wood pieces that never needed any touch up, but
nothing as new and nice as this. Usually I just try to fix it myself, but I
am kicking myself now. Live and learn. Maybe in 20 years someone will
write in with the same problem and I can help them out. Thanks folks for
the interest and help. And also for not confirming my ignorance.

Greg
ki4bbl



"Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message
...
In article J6GKg.9903$xk3.8053@dukeread07,
"G. Doughty" wrote:

The guys told me,
"No big deal, just softly rub the paint with nail polish remover."


Just for future reference, as LRod said, nail polish remover is acetone
based - and a pretty strong solvent. It'll remove most finishes as well
as dissolve many plastics and vinyls.

In the future if you have a scuff of latex paint to remove, use
isopropyl alcohol or ammonia - that is, unless the finish is shellac.
--
Owen Lowe
The Fly-by-Night Copper Company
_________

There is no "W" in Leadership.




Clint September 4th 06 02:52 AM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 
My wife may argue that with you...

Clint

"LRod" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 00:32:19 GMT, "Toller" wrote:

Penetration of oil into mahogany is very superficial. It would certainly
be
removed with whatever removes the other finish.


By definition, penetration is not superficial.

--
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997

email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.




Brent Beal September 4th 06 02:32 PM

tried to fix armoire uh oh
 

"boorite" wrote in message
ups.com...
boorite wrote:
G. Doughty wrote:

s you want from
the stain crayons and such, you probably just have to pay to have it
repaired.

If this was brand new,and the retailer is a reputable firm, they should send
someone out to fix it. Most retailers will do this.




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