I have a cabinet with adjustable shelving which is open on opposing
sides and I'm looking for ways to secure the shelves from sliding out.
I'm using standard shelf pins like this
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...8&cookietest=1
but I realized someone should make a version with another pin sticking
up (instead a hole or a friction pad) which I can drill holes in the
bottoms of the shelves to accept. Rockler and Lee Valley don't have
anything like it, though, so it probably doesn't exist :-)
I suppose I could put pins in the bottom of the shelves that would fit
into the holes in the supports I have now, but that's not as pretty a
solution. I want to maintain ease of shelf rearrangement.
Is that the best I can do?

Gordon Airporte wrote:
I have a cabinet with adjustable shelving which is open on opposing
sides and I'm looking for ways to secure the shelves from sliding out.
I'm using standard shelf pins like this
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...8&cookietest=1
but I realized someone should make a version with another pin sticking
up (instead a hole or a friction pad) which I can drill holes in the
bottoms of the shelves to accept. Rockler and Lee Valley don't have
anything like it, though, so it probably doesn't exist :-)

Actually, I have seen some designed to provide a friction fit, but
don't have a source offhand...

I suppose I could put pins in the bottom of the shelves that would fit
into the holes in the supports I have now, but that's not as pretty a
solution. I want to maintain ease of shelf rearrangement.
Is that the best I can do?

What is often done is rather than just setting the shelf on the pin,
rout a groove on the bottom side of the shelf for the pin to set
in...invisible, no hassle in moving/rearranging and fairly easy to do
w/ a jig/template to cut the slots consistently.

Shoot a brad thru the hole in the support and into the shelf.
It will remain proud of the shelf underside enough to hold the
shelf but you wont see it.

Art

"Gordon Airporte" wrote in message
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I have a cabinet with adjustable shelving which is open on opposing
sides and I'm looking for ways to secure the shelves from sliding out.
I'm using standard shelf pins like this
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...8&cookietest=1
but I realized someone should make a version with another pin sticking
up (instead a hole or a friction pad) which I can drill holes in the
bottoms of the shelves to accept. Rockler and Lee Valley don't have
anything like it, though, so it probably doesn't exist :-)
I suppose I could put pins in the bottom of the shelves that would fit
into the holes in the supports I have now, but that's not as pretty a
solution. I want to maintain ease of shelf rearrangement.
Is that the best I can do?

dpb wrote:
Gordon Airporte wrote:
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I suppose I could put pins in the bottom of the shelves that would
fit into the holes in the supports I have now, but that's not as
pretty a solution. I want to maintain ease of shelf rearrangement.
Is that the best I can do?

What is often done is rather than just setting the shelf on the pin,
rout a groove on the bottom side of the shelf for the pin to set
in...invisible, no hassle in moving/rearranging and fairly easy to do
w/ a jig/template to cut the slots consistently.

I have several "store bought" CD/DVD racks that use this. It has straight
pins set into the side of the cabinet (like these
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=949). They cut a square groove the
full length of the shelf. The OP could route ones out only long enough to
accomodate the pins.

Gordon Airporte wrote:
I have a cabinet with adjustable shelving which is open on opposing
sides and I'm looking for ways to secure the shelves from sliding
out. I'm using standard shelf pins like this
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...8&cookietest=1
but I realized someone should make a version with another pin
sticking up (instead a hole or a friction pad) which I can drill
holes in the bottoms of the shelves to accept. Rockler and Lee
Valley don't have anything like it, though, so it probably doesn't
exist :-)
I suppose I could put pins in the bottom of the shelves that would
fit into the holes in the supports I have now, but that's not as
pretty a solution. I want to maintain ease of shelf rearrangement.
Is that the best I can do?

A. One can make the shelf a close fit between the cabinet ends and
make shallow dados in the shelf ends to fit around the clip.

B. Use a screw through the bottom hole of the clip into the
shelf...that's why it is there.

C. Put a face frame on the cabinet so it retains the shelves.

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dadiOH (in d9oIg.1966$XD1.1049@trnddc01) said:

| A. One can make the shelf a close fit between the cabinet ends and
| make shallow dados in the shelf ends to fit around the clip.

This is what I do - and it works well to both hide the support and
prevent the shelf from moving. I have a small sample in the shop and,
if you'd like, can snap a couple of pix when I go to the shop
tomorrow.

|
| B. Use a screw through the bottom hole of the clip into the
| shelf...that's why it is there.

If you go this route, you should only need one screw on each end. I'd
put through the back shelf supports where id'd show least.

| C. Put a face frame on the cabinet so it retains the shelves.

Also a good way to go. Don't fasten the face frame to the shelves. :-)

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Wood Butcher wrote:
Shoot a brad thru the hole in the support and into the shelf.
It will remain proud of the shelf underside enough to hold the
shelf but you wont see it.

I don't think you quite hit the nail on the head;
this solution is a little tacky ;-)

A. One can make the shelf a close fit between the cabinet ends and
make shallow dados in the shelf ends to fit around the clip.

This would be fairly easy to jig up, good idea.


B. Use a screw through the bottom hole of the clip into the
shelf...that's why it is there.

C. Put a face frame on the cabinet so it retains the shelves.

These solutions make it harder to move the shelves around.

dpb wrote:

What is often done is rather than just setting the shelf on the pin,
rout a groove on the bottom side of the shelf for the pin to set
in...invisible, no hassle in moving/rearranging and fairly easy to do
w/ a jig/template to cut the slots consistently.

Oh, good call. I'm sure I've seen this on flat-pack furniture before but
it didn't jump to mind. I think a forstner bit is the way to go - easier
to jig and work with than a router.

Gordon Airporte wrote:
A. One can make the shelf a close fit between the cabinet ends and
make shallow dados in the shelf ends to fit around the clip.

This would be fairly easy to jig up, good idea.


B. Use a screw through the bottom hole of the clip into the
shelf...that's why it is there.

C. Put a face frame on the cabinet so it retains the shelves.

These solutions make it harder to move the shelves around.

Screw does, face frame doesn't. I must have 100+ shelves in my house,
most all supported on those KV clips. I don't think a single one of
them has ever been moved once set up...


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