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Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
Hello all,
As an intermediate woodworker/DIY'r, I am surprised to be having trouble with my new circular saw. I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. I finally used a jig saw to finish the cut and noticed that the wood was black from burning. Any thoughts? I've never experienced this with my 18v Ryobi cordless saw, and I use it pretty hard. This saw even smoked while cutting a 1'' bamboo stair tread, which the Ryobi cut effortlessly. Thanks in advance, Joe |
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Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
I don't think so, but I should probably triple check.
no(SPAM)vasys wrote: wrote: snip I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. Are you sure the blade's not in backwards? -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA (Remove -SPAM- to send email) |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
I don't think so, but I should probably triple check.
no(SPAM)vasys wrote: wrote: snip I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. Are you sure the blade's not in backwards? -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA (Remove -SPAM- to send email) |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
Ok, so I have triple checked, and I'm sure that the blade is on
correctly. The arrows on the blade match those on the saw, and the teeth are pointed upwards at the front of the saw. Any other thoughts, or is it back to the home depot in hopes of a return (Don't know if they will be happy about taking it back, since the whole thing STILL smells like smoke. jm jmyszka wrote: I don't think so, but I should probably triple check. no(SPAM)vasys wrote: wrote: snip I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. Are you sure the blade's not in backwards? -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA (Remove -SPAM- to send email) |
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Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
I wouldn't think the teeth need sharpening, both the blade and saw are
brand new, right out of the box. Maybe its just a crappy saw? The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote: wrote: Hello all, As an intermediate woodworker/DIY'r, I am surprised to be having trouble with my new circular saw. I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. I finally used a jig saw to finish the cut and noticed that the wood was black from burning. Any thoughts? I've never experienced this with my 18v Ryobi cordless saw, and I use it pretty hard. This saw even smoked while cutting a 1'' bamboo stair tread, which the Ryobi cut effortlessly. Thanks in advance, Joe Either the teeth need sharpening on the blade or the motor is getting snagged? -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
jmyszka wrote:
I wouldn't think the teeth need sharpening, both the blade and saw are brand new, right out of the box. Maybe its just a crappy saw? Probably, cant you use it to cut the sunday beef joint. ;-) -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
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Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
The arrows on the blade face the same direction as the arrow on the
saw. There are no nails in the wood from what I can tell. |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
jmyszka wrote:
Ok, so I have triple checked, and I'm sure that the blade is on correctly. The arrows on the blade match those on the saw, and the teeth are pointed upwards at the front of the saw. This is a table saw, right? and the teeth point *upward* at the front??? The blade is on backward. If you don't believe this, try turning it around and see what happens. Harvey |
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What type of blade is it? Is it made for plywood? The blades that come
with a saw...particularly HD ones are garbage. "jmyszka" wrote in message oups.com... The arrows on the blade face the same direction as the arrow on the saw. There are no nails in the wood from what I can tell. |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
In article , Joe
wrote: This is a table saw, right? and the teeth point *upward* at the front??? No, it's a Skil 7 1/4" circ saw, per the OP. |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
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wrote: As an intermediate woodworker/DIY'r, I am surprised to be having trouble with my new circular saw. I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. I finally used a jig saw to finish the cut and noticed that the wood was black from burning. Any thoughts? I've never experienced this with my 18v Ryobi cordless saw, and I use it pretty hard. This saw even smoked while cutting a 1'' bamboo stair tread, which the Ryobi cut effortlessly. Take it back. At best you get a new saw, at worst someone can look at it at figure out what the problem is. |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
Are you using any kind of guide (e.g., speed square) with the saw? It's
fairly typical that the edge of the saw foot isn't exactly parallel to the blade, which leads to burning when following a guide. If that's the problem, freehand cutting should be OK. |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
Joe wrote:
This is a table saw, right? and the teeth point *upward* at the front??? Er! no its a circular handsaw. -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
"jmyszka" wrote in message oups.com... I wouldn't think the teeth need sharpening, both the blade and saw are brand new, right out of the box. Maybe its just a crappy saw? The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote: wrote: Hello all, As an intermediate woodworker/DIY'r, I am surprised to be having trouble with my new circular saw. I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. I finally used a jig saw to finish the cut and noticed that the wood was black from burning. Is it a carbide blade? Some of the Skil saws come with a steel blade... which dull almost instantly on things like oak! Alternatively, it is possible you are twisting the saw as you push it through? Sometimes manually retracting the blade guide takes the stress off and you can push it through straighter. John |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
"John Grossbohlin" wrote in message k.net... "jmyszka" wrote in message oups.com... I wouldn't think the teeth need sharpening, both the blade and saw are brand new, right out of the box. Maybe its just a crappy saw? The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote: wrote: Hello all, As an intermediate woodworker/DIY'r, I am surprised to be having trouble with my new circular saw. I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. I finally used a jig saw to finish the cut and noticed that the wood was black from burning. Is it a carbide blade? Some of the Skil saws come with a steel blade... which dull almost instantly on things like oak! Alternatively, it is possible you are twisting the saw as you push it through? Sometimes manually retracting the blade guide takes the stress off and you can push it through straighter. That's supposed to read "blade gaurd." |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
"John Grossbohlin" wrote in message ink.net... "John Grossbohlin" wrote in message k.net... "jmyszka" wrote in message oups.com... I wouldn't think the teeth need sharpening, both the blade and saw are brand new, right out of the box. Maybe its just a crappy saw? The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote: wrote: Hello all, As an intermediate woodworker/DIY'r, I am surprised to be having trouble with my new circular saw. I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. I finally used a jig saw to finish the cut and noticed that the wood was black from burning. Is it a carbide blade? Some of the Skil saws come with a steel blade... which dull almost instantly on things like oak! Alternatively, it is possible you are twisting the saw as you push it through? Sometimes manually retracting the blade guide takes the stress off and you can push it through straighter. That's supposed to read "blade gaurd." Let's try this again... "blade guard." It's time for bed... ;~) |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
Lots of saws, even fairly pricey table saws, come with lousy blades. That
would be the first thing I tried. Replace the blade. "jmyszka" wrote in message oups.com... I wouldn't think the teeth need sharpening, both the blade and saw are brand new, right out of the box. Maybe its just a crappy saw? The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote: wrote: Hello all, As an intermediate woodworker/DIY'r, I am surprised to be having trouble with my new circular saw. I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. I finally used a jig saw to finish the cut and noticed that the wood was black from burning. Any thoughts? I've never experienced this with my 18v Ryobi cordless saw, and I use it pretty hard. This saw even smoked while cutting a 1'' bamboo stair tread, which the Ryobi cut effortlessly. Thanks in advance, Joe Either the teeth need sharpening on the blade or the motor is getting snagged? -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
Try removing the blade and laying it on a flat surface, first on one side
then on the other side, to check for possible warping due to overheating. Does the blade have some sort of radial slots to resist such warping ? I ran onto this problem once with a cheap carbide blade; the warp was noticeable once the blade was dismounted. David Merrill wrote in message ps.com... snip ... 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. |
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Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
Thanks to everyone for their input.
I was inclined to just pick up a new blade, but Home Depot was quite eager to take their saw back and sell it to some other poor soul. So I picked up a dewalt jigsaw and that finished the job no problem. It takes about twice as long to make the cuts, but they are quite straight and clean - and no problems with the blades Thanks again! Joe hylourgos wrote: wrote: Hello all, As an intermediate woodworker/DIY'r, I am surprised to be having trouble with my new circular saw. I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. I finally used a jig saw to finish the cut and noticed that the wood was black from burning. Any thoughts? I've never experienced this with my 18v Ryobi cordless saw, and I use it pretty hard. This saw even smoked while cutting a 1'' bamboo stair tread, which the Ryobi cut effortlessly. Thanks in advance, Joe Trust me (and several others), it's the blade. For whatever reason--it's cheap, you hit a nail unbeknownst, or deus roboris doesn't like you--the blade is dull. Do yourself a big favor and buy a good thin-kerf Freud blade. They're only about $10 or so. Take the old blade off, put on the Freud, use it on some wood...you will be happy. Tell us how it works out. Regards, H |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
I was going to suggest looking at the sides of the saw teeth for pitch
build-up. In article . com, jmyszka wrote: Thanks to everyone for their input. I was inclined to just pick up a new blade, but Home Depot was quite eager to take their saw back and sell it to some other poor soul. So I picked up a dewalt jigsaw and that finished the job no problem. It takes about twice as long to make the cuts, but they are quite straight and clean - and no problems with the blades Thanks again! Joe hylourgos wrote: wrote: Hello all, As an intermediate woodworker/DIY'r, I am surprised to be having trouble with my new circular saw. I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. I finally used a jig saw to finish the cut and noticed that the wood was black from burning. Any thoughts? I've never experienced this with my 18v Ryobi cordless saw, and I use it pretty hard. This saw even smoked while cutting a 1'' bamboo stair tread, which the Ryobi cut effortlessly. Thanks in advance, Joe Trust me (and several others), it's the blade. For whatever reason--it's cheap, you hit a nail unbeknownst, or deus roboris doesn't like you--the blade is dull. Do yourself a big favor and buy a good thin-kerf Freud blade. They're only about $10 or so. Take the old blade off, put on the Freud, use it on some wood...you will be happy. Tell us how it works out. Regards, H |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
Could be the saw. I had an inexpensive craftsman saw that did just
what you describe. Finally got fed up with it and threw it in the trash and went out and got a decent Porter Cable saw. Couldn't believe the difference -- cut true and cut like butter..... wrote: Hello all, As an intermediate woodworker/DIY'r, I am surprised to be having trouble with my new circular saw. I am attempting to cut through 1'' stair noses, but my brand new Skill 7 1/4'' saw can barely cut through the wood and smokes excessivly. I finally used a jig saw to finish the cut and noticed that the wood was black from burning. Any thoughts? I've never experienced this with my 18v Ryobi cordless saw, and I use it pretty hard. This saw even smoked while cutting a 1'' bamboo stair tread, which the Ryobi cut effortlessly. Thanks in advance, Joe |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
"Jerry" wrote in message ups.com... Could be the saw. I had an inexpensive craftsman saw that did just what you describe. Finally got fed up with it and threw it in the trash and went out and got a decent Porter Cable saw. Couldn't believe the difference -- cut true and cut like butter..... Just for the sake of discussion - what difference does the saw make? It doesn't. Assuming a couple of things that have not been previously qualified... If the motor is not lugging down on a basic cut, then the motor has enough power. It will work. If the shoe and the blade are not aligned it will only matter when using an edge guide. Free hand sawing will be unaffected. It will work. If the blade is a piece of junk it will not cut and it will burn wood. It will not work, but this is not a fault of the saw - cheap or not. You can put a piece of junk blade on my Milwaukee and it will burn wood just like the cheap saw. The saw may indeed be poorly built and it may vibrate a lot in your hand, it may not last very long as sleeves wear quickly, and it may be of really poor balance. Those are all good reasons to buy a better tool, but with a good blade even a cheap "piece of junk" will cut wood just fine. I've had to cut wood with too many lesser saws to be quick to blame bad cutting on the saw. One of the best saws I ever owned was the cheapest Black and Decker 5 1/2 inch saws that I inherited. The thing was as poorly built as a saw gets. It certainly would not have stood up to the rigors of being bumped around, thrown in the back of a contractor's truck. Flat out, it was not a saw I would ever have given $5 for. But... I put a decent blade on it and it immediately became one of the handiest tools in my collection. Very maneuverable - much more handy to hold onto than my Milwaukee. Quick, clean cuts. In short, for a few years it was the handiest saw I could ask for. As it goes with cheap tools, it didn't enjoy the longevity of life that a good tool will and it's now rotting away in the land fill, but it sure was a good tool for a while. -- -Mike- |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
"Jerry" wrote in message ups.com... My ability to tune the craftman was minimal due inexpensive thin metal construction -- it was difficult to keep the thing in alignment for any period of time. I did not have the time or energy to tune it for every cut. I guess it depends on the tool. That's interesting Jerry - what do you mean by tuning it? -- -Mike- |
Circular Saw Burning/Smoking Problem
hylourgos wrote:
Do yourself a big favor and buy a good thin-kerf Freud blade. They're only about $10 or so. Take the old blade off, put on the Freud, use it on some wood...you will be happy. I had a similar situation to the original poster's, which also involves a Skil circular saw and difficulty cutting things. Some of my problem was just getting the cuts set-up properly so that the wood did not bind. But ultimately the biggest problem was having crappy blades on the saw. I replaced what I had been using with the Freud 7 1/4" blade available at Home Depot and that made a world of difference. It made so much difference that it felt like having a whole new and different saw. |
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