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Wipe on poly -- wipe off stain?
I have made a few projects from oak. The most recent projects I have
used Minwax stain and finished them with Minwax wipe on poly. I used the wipe on poly primarily for the ease (at last for me) in achieving a run-free finish on vertical surfaces. One problem I have is that when I wipe on the poly sometimes I wipe OFF some of the stain. This occurs primarily on, but isn't limited to, the edges. The stain was applied at least 24 hours earlier so I know it was dry. The humidity was low because my shop is in the basement and it's air conditioned. Once I fix what I screwed up and get a uniform look with the first coat I have no problem with the remaining coats of poly. Sometimes it's a lot of work to get the first coat right. What could I be doing wrong? R.C. |
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"Richard Cranium" wrote in message ... I have made a few projects from oak. The most recent projects I have used Minwax stain and finished them with Minwax wipe on poly. I used the wipe on poly primarily for the ease (at last for me) in achieving a run-free finish on vertical surfaces. One problem I have is that when I wipe on the poly sometimes I wipe OFF some of the stain. This occurs primarily on, but isn't limited to, the edges. The stain was applied at least 24 hours earlier so I know it was dry. The humidity was low because my shop is in the basement and it's air conditioned. Once I fix what I screwed up and get a uniform look with the first coat I have no problem with the remaining coats of poly. Sometimes it's a lot of work to get the first coat right. What could I be doing wrong? I know you have not had problems in the past but I don't use Miniwax products because of this reason. That said, if the stain was not properly wiped off and or if it was applied too heavily you may be dissolving and removing the excess stain that did not penetrate the wood. |
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 19:23:13 -0500, Richard Cranium
wrote: I have made a few projects from oak. The most recent projects I have used Minwax stain and finished them with Minwax wipe on poly. I used the wipe on poly primarily for the ease (at last for me) in achieving a run-free finish on vertical surfaces. One problem I have is that when I wipe on the poly sometimes I wipe OFF some of the stain. This occurs primarily on, but isn't limited to, the edges. The stain was applied at least 24 hours earlier so I know it was dry. The humidity was low because my shop is in the basement and it's air conditioned. Last time I used Minwax poly over Minwax stain, I saw the same thing. If I do the poly-over-stain finish again, I'll apply a coat of dewaxed shellac as a barrier between the stain and the poly. -- Chuck Taylor http://home.hiwaay.net/~taylorc/contact/ |
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Wipe on poly -- wipe off stain?
I don't use poly much any more, but I "suspect"
that wiping poly contains a MUCH higher mixture of poly and solvents which is how the wiping occurs. This higher content of solvent is playing hell with your prior staining. I would learn how to spray shellac and mix colors with the shellac. You get a beatiful finish and it's really easy to deal with. Get yourself a "Critter" and play with spraying to find out how much better your finish can really be. http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...190,43034&ap=1 This sprayer does NOT require a high end compressor and it is a piece of cake to clean up. Spray the stain/shellac mixture on your project and then go back over the project with the poly. Richard Cranium wrote: I have made a few projects from oak. The most recent projects I have used Minwax stain and finished them with Minwax wipe on poly. I used the wipe on poly primarily for the ease (at last for me) in achieving a run-free finish on vertical surfaces. |
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"Richard Cranium"
I have made a few projects from oak. The most recent projects I have used Minwax stain and finished them with Minwax wipe on poly. snip One problem I have is that when I wipe on the poly sometimes I wipe OFF some of the stain. snip What could I be doing wrong? When staining, I generally use a gel stain. After applying the gel, I start wiping off the excess with a clean cloth. After the majority is wiped off, I go over the whole thing with clean cloth soaked in Mineral Sprits. This removes the remainder of the loose gel. I will not put my final finish on for a day or two. Dave |
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Richard Cranium wrote: Robert, You had a couple points that could be part, or all of my problem(s). SNIP With a little longer wait and a little less pressure I hope to get better results on the next project. Thanks, R.C. I hope it was of some help. Let us know here how you do on the next project. Good luck! Robert |
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Wipe on poly -- wipe off stain?
Richard Cranium wrote:
I have made a few projects from oak. The most recent projects I have used Minwax stain and finished them with Minwax wipe on poly. I used the wipe on poly primarily for the ease (at last for me) in achieving a run-free finish on vertical surfaces. One problem I have is that when I wipe on the poly sometimes I wipe OFF some of the stain. This occurs primarily on, but isn't limited to, the edges. The stain was applied at least 24 hours earlier so I know it was dry. The humidity was low because my shop is in the basement and it's air conditioned. Once I fix what I screwed up and get a uniform look with the first coat I have no problem with the remaining coats of poly. Sometimes it's a lot of work to get the first coat right. What could I be doing wrong? R.C. Richard, I have been using General Finishes wipe-on for several years and had the same problem with my stain. I now give a light spray with a minwax spray poly and this seems to prevent any stain from being removed and contaminent my wipe-on finish. Have not had any problem with any long term results. Norvin |
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