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Toller March 13th 06 08:44 PM

A dado in two passes?
 
I had to make a 7/8" dado today. Since my dado set only goes up to 13/16" I
put a 1/2" dado assembly in my TS and cut a groove. I moved the fence 3/8"
and cut a second grove. It only took one adjustment to be perfect.

It was faster and easier than most dados I have cut, where you have to fuss
with the spacers.

Is there a downside to this method I am not seeing? If not, I will do all
my dados this way.
Thanks.



Tom Banes March 13th 06 10:39 PM

A dado in two passes?
 
Only downside I've found is the minimal scar left by the scoring blade
in the dado. As few people see the inside cut of a dado after assembly
(one hopes!), not a real issue. I often just use a 1/4 dado set up
'cause I've cut a ZC insert to match that size and just bump the fence
as you did. Sometimes tho' those little magnetic spacers save thge day
with off-size ply. Heck, some of that stuff isn't even a reasonable
metric size to 2 decimal positions! I mean like 18.7 mm! That's close
to 47/64 but not quite at it. It's sure not 23/32.

Tom

Beware the lazy man, he'll find a better way (Lazarus Long)

Is there a downside to this method I am not seeing? If not, I will do all
my dados this way.
Thanks.


George March 13th 06 10:43 PM

A dado in two passes?
 

"Toller" wrote in message
...
I had to make a 7/8" dado today. Since my dado set only goes up to 13/16"
I put a 1/2" dado assembly in my TS and cut a groove. I moved the fence
3/8" and cut a second grove. It only took one adjustment to be perfect.

It was faster and easier than most dados I have cut, where you have to
fuss with the spacers.

Is there a downside to this method I am not seeing? If not, I will do all
my dados this way.


Some people nibble with their rip blade. If you had an underpowered saw,
(or a couple of dropped cutters that had blown their carbide) you'd do it
that way a lot. Got a nice Freud set three years ago to replace the kid's
handiwork.



Phisherman March 13th 06 10:58 PM

A dado in two passes?
 
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:44:26 GMT, "Toller" wrote:

I had to make a 7/8" dado today. Since my dado set only goes up to 13/16" I
put a 1/2" dado assembly in my TS and cut a groove. I moved the fence 3/8"
and cut a second grove. It only took one adjustment to be perfect.

It was faster and easier than most dados I have cut, where you have to fuss
with the spacers.

Is there a downside to this method I am not seeing? If not, I will do all
my dados this way.
Thanks.



A better method is to use a 3/8" thick ply clamped to the fence, make
a cut, remove the ply, make the second cut. This is more accurate and
repeatable.

Guess who March 13th 06 11:49 PM

A dado in two passes?
 
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:44:26 GMT, "Toller" wrote:

Is there a downside to this method I am not seeing? If not, I will do all
my dados this way.


You're looking at it. What do you see? Define "downside".

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.


George E. Cawthon March 14th 06 01:48 AM

A dado in two passes?
 
Phisherman wrote:
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:44:26 GMT, "Toller" wrote:


I had to make a 7/8" dado today. Since my dado set only goes up to 13/16" I
put a 1/2" dado assembly in my TS and cut a groove. I moved the fence 3/8"
and cut a second grove. It only took one adjustment to be perfect.

It was faster and easier than most dados I have cut, where you have to fuss
with the spacers.

Is there a downside to this method I am not seeing? If not, I will do all
my dados this way.
Thanks.




A better method is to use a 3/8" thick ply clamped to the fence, make
a cut, remove the ply, make the second cut. This is more accurate and
repeatable.


Won't work were I live cause the 3/8" ply won't
be. But your point is good. Ripping a 3/8"
spacer would save a lot of work and make the cuts
repeatable.

Gerald March 14th 06 04:23 PM

A dado in two passes?
 
newbie to woodworking question ...

I have been using a router and a simple homemade dado jig to do my dados.
With the jig (commonly found in many router jig articles) there is no
measuring, no worring about undersize or oversize wood or bits, and the dado
always matches the width of the piece you are joining first time.

but, like I said ... new to woodworking ... what am I missing?


"Toller" wrote in message
...
I had to make a 7/8" dado today. Since my dado set only goes up to 13/16"
I put a 1/2" dado assembly in my TS and cut a groove. I moved the fence
3/8" and cut a second grove. It only took one adjustment to be perfect.

It was faster and easier than most dados I have cut, where you have to
fuss with the spacers.

Is there a downside to this method I am not seeing? If not, I will do all
my dados this way.
Thanks.




Pat Barber March 14th 06 04:31 PM

A dado in two passes?
 
That assumes a perfect piece of plywood that is "exactly"
3/8" which is extremely rare.


Phisherman wrote:


A better method is to use a 3/8" thick ply clamped to the fence, make
a cut, remove the ply, make the second cut. This is more accurate and
repeatable.


RicodJour March 14th 06 04:39 PM

A dado in two passes?
 
Pat Barber wrote:
Phisherman wrote:

A better method is to use a 3/8" thick ply clamped to the fence, make
a cut, remove the ply, make the second cut. This is more accurate and
repeatable.


That assumes a perfect piece of plywood that is "exactly"
3/8" which is extremely rare.


I usually have some left over Starboard
http://www.kingstarboard.com/CMS/Med...20Brochure.pdf
, which is a staple building product in the marine industry, laying
around. I use strips of it for all sorts of things, including fence
shims. I rip it to the right size, then scrape or plane until smooth.
It's stable, nothing sticks to it, and it's slick as snot so the boards
slide much easier.

R


Mike Marlow March 14th 06 05:34 PM

A dado in two passes?
 

"Gerald" wrote in message
...
newbie to woodworking question ...

I have been using a router and a simple homemade dado jig to do my dados.
With the jig (commonly found in many router jig articles) there is no
measuring, no worring about undersize or oversize wood or bits, and the

dado
always matches the width of the piece you are joining first time.

but, like I said ... new to woodworking ... what am I missing?


You're not. I use my router to cut dados as well and I've never had any
difficulties. Many here prefer dado blades and have stated that they make
for a faster dado if you're cutting a lot of them, but for my needs I've
never found the router to be lacking. Like you, I cut my dado to fit the
piece that's going into it and I don't worry about whether it's 1/2" or
15/32" or 31/64" or whatever. Simple jig, coupla passes and I'm off and
running. Maybe not the most elegant approach, but quite effective.

--

-Mike-




Brian Henderson March 14th 06 08:46 PM

A dado in two passes?
 
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:48:31 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
wrote:

Won't work were I live cause the 3/8" ply won't
be. But your point is good. Ripping a 3/8"
spacer would save a lot of work and make the cuts
repeatable.


It isn't like you can't make your own 3/8" spacer though. Set your
fence for 3/8", cut some scrap, clamp it to your fence. Ten seconds
work.

George March 15th 06 11:42 AM

A dado in two passes?
 

"Mike Marlow" wrote in message
...

"Gerald" wrote in message
...
newbie to woodworking question ...

I have been using a router and a simple homemade dado jig to do my dados.
With the jig (commonly found in many router jig articles) there is no
measuring, no worring about undersize or oversize wood or bits, and the

dado
always matches the width of the piece you are joining first time.

but, like I said ... new to woodworking ... what am I missing?


You're not.


Ditto. Especially when using larger pieces of wood, where the router
excels. Tough making dadoes in seven-foot high shelf sides with the saw.
Done it, but why bother?




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