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bob February 28th 06 06:51 PM

Cabinet above a radiator
 
I'm building a large built-in that covers a whole wall between the fireplace
and the back wall of the house. To one side of the roughly 8 foot span is a
hot water radiator, which is 4 feet long. It's a "modern", 1 foot high tyoe,
not a big cast iron model. The built-in goes up and over the radiator, with
about 5 inches of clearance below the cabinet. It doesn't get insanely hot
in the cabinet, but I do want to route as much of the heat forward as
possible.
I've thought about designing a curved deflector to curve up from the wall
right at the radiator, then curving forward under the cabinet, in hopes of
diverting the heat to some extent. I also thought about insulating above the
deflector, as well as covering the deflector itself (possibly .032"
aluminium) with shiny foil to help reflect the heat.
Has anyone had any experience with this sort of thing?

thanks,


--
Bob

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The Medway Handyman February 28th 06 07:04 PM

Cabinet above a radiator
 
bob wrote:
I also thought about
insulating above the deflector, as well as covering the deflector
itself (possibly .032" aluminium) with shiny foil to help reflect the
heat.
Has anyone had any experience with this sort of thing?


You can buy shiny foam stuff on a roll from B&Q designed to go behind
radiators & reflect heat.


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Dave
The Medway Handyman
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01634 717930
07850 597257



Lee Michaels February 28th 06 07:10 PM

Cabinet above a radiator
 

"bob" wrote in message
...
I'm building a large built-in that covers a whole wall between the
fireplace
and the back wall of the house. To one side of the roughly 8 foot span is
a
hot water radiator, which is 4 feet long. It's a "modern", 1 foot high
tyoe,
not a big cast iron model. The built-in goes up and over the radiator,
with
about 5 inches of clearance below the cabinet. It doesn't get insanely hot
in the cabinet, but I do want to route as much of the heat forward as
possible.
I've thought about designing a curved deflector to curve up from the wall
right at the radiator, then curving forward under the cabinet, in hopes of
diverting the heat to some extent. I also thought about insulating above
the
deflector, as well as covering the deflector itself (possibly .032"
aluminium) with shiny foil to help reflect the heat.
Has anyone had any experience with this sort of thing?

I have seen this done with a flat piece of sheet metal. They insulated
behind it with some aresol foam. It was very simple. I don't see the need
to do anything more complicated.








[email protected] February 28th 06 07:50 PM

Cabinet above a radiator
 
Radiators aren't as common anymore here in Canada as they are in the
U.K., but I think I can envision the stuff you're talking about. I may
have seen similar, foil-wrapped firbeglass insulation here.

Bob

Travel and Astronomy Photos
http://www3.sympatico.ca/bomo


bent February 28th 06 07:55 PM

Cabinet above a radiator
 
I'm pretty sure any plastics e.g phenol is gonna be real expensive



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Robatoy February 28th 06 07:55 PM

Cabinet above a radiator
 
In article , "bob" wrote:

I'm building a large built-in that covers a whole wall between the fireplace
and the back wall of the house. To one side of the roughly 8 foot span is a
hot water radiator, which is 4 feet long. It's a "modern", 1 foot high tyoe,
not a big cast iron model. The built-in goes up and over the radiator, with
about 5 inches of clearance below the cabinet. It doesn't get insanely hot
in the cabinet, but I do want to route as much of the heat forward as
possible.
I've thought about designing a curved deflector to curve up from the wall
right at the radiator, then curving forward under the cabinet, in hopes of
diverting the heat to some extent. I also thought about insulating above the
deflector, as well as covering the deflector itself (possibly .032"
aluminium) with shiny foil to help reflect the heat.
Has anyone had any experience with this sort of thing?

thanks,


Rather than focusing on reflecting the heat (IR), concentrate on smoothing the
air flow. Those heaters run on a max of 90 degrees C, so IR doesn't play much of
a role. Convection air current does make a huge difference.
If you allow air in at the bottom, and with a curved/shaped smooth aluminum
deflector, direct the air out from the cavity, the convection air flow will take
care of the rest.
Insulating it from the cabinet above, might be a good idea if that is where you
keep your chocolates or antique LP record collection.

Robatoy February 28th 06 07:56 PM

Cabinet above a radiator
 
In article ,
Robatoy wrote:

In article , "bob" wrote:

I'm building a large built-in that covers a whole wall between the
fireplace
and the back wall of the house. To one side of the roughly 8 foot span is a
hot water radiator, which is 4 feet long. It's a "modern", 1 foot high
tyoe,
not a big cast iron model. The built-in goes up and over the radiator, with
about 5 inches of clearance below the cabinet. It doesn't get insanely hot
in the cabinet, but I do want to route as much of the heat forward as
possible.
I've thought about designing a curved deflector to curve up from the wall
right at the radiator, then curving forward under the cabinet, in hopes of
diverting the heat to some extent. I also thought about insulating above
the
deflector, as well as covering the deflector itself (possibly .032"
aluminium) with shiny foil to help reflect the heat.
Has anyone had any experience with this sort of thing?

thanks,


Rather than focusing on reflecting the heat (IR), concentrate on smoothing
the
air flow. Those heaters run on a max of 90 degrees C, so IR doesn't play much
of
a role. Convection air current does make a huge difference.
If you allow air in at the bottom, and with a curved/shaped smooth aluminum
deflector, direct the air out from the cavity, the convection air flow will
take
care of the rest.
Insulating it from the cabinet above, might be a good idea if that is where
you
keep your chocolates or antique LP record collection.


That was sooo 'Martha Stewart' of me...*slaps self*

Guess who February 28th 06 08:29 PM

Cabinet above a radiator
 
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:10:30 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
wrote:


"bob" wrote in message
...
I'm building a large built-in that covers a whole wall between the
fireplace
and the back wall of the house. To one side of the roughly 8 foot span is
a
hot water radiator, which is 4 feet long.


I have seen this done with a flat piece of sheet metal. They insulated
behind it with some aresol foam. It was very simple. I don't see the need
to do anything more complicated.


I've done that over a wood stove. Stainless steel with air-space or
insulation behind.

MUCH MORE IMPORTANT! Contact your local fire dept and insurance
company and ask them! If they veto it, can it.


[email protected] February 28th 06 08:33 PM

Cabinet above a radiator
 
I was gonna say.....


RicodJour February 28th 06 08:35 PM

Cabinet above a radiator
 
Robatoy wrote:
Robatoy wrote:

Rather than focusing on reflecting the heat (IR), concentrate on smoothing
the
air flow. Those heaters run on a max of 90 degrees C, so IR doesn't play much
of
a role. Convection air current does make a huge difference.
If you allow air in at the bottom, and with a curved/shaped smooth aluminum
deflector, direct the air out from the cavity, the convection air flow will
take
care of the rest.
Insulating it from the cabinet above, might be a good idea if that is where
you
keep your chocolates or antique LP record collection.


That was sooo 'Martha Stewart' of me...*slaps self*


More Christpher Lowell. :)

R



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