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hylourgos December 27th 05 11:34 PM

Mechanical difference between 1725 and 3650 AC induction motors?
 
What's the essential mechanical difference between these two standards?
Are there minor mods you can make to switch them?

Curious,
H


djs December 28th 05 12:14 AM

Mechanical difference between 1725 and 3650 AC induction motors?
 
What's the essential mechanical difference between these two standards?
Are there minor mods you can make to switch them?


Induction motors run slightly slower than the synchronous speed they
are designed at. For example, the windings can be designed to make the
stator's magnetic field rotate around the rotor once per 60 Hz cycle.
In one minute at 60 Hz (60 cycles per second) the field rotates around
the motor 3600 times. The rotor, which consists of bars running sort
of parallel to the shaft, has current induced in these bars (that is
why they call it an induction motor) which reacts with the spinning
magnetic field to produce a force, and thus a torque.

At "no load" (a freely running motor) this induction motor will spin at
nearly 3600 rpm. When load is applied the motor will slow down
slightly. At the rated load the motor will slow to its rated speed,
something like 3500 - 3550 RPM.

An induction motor rated at 3550 RPM is designed with two poles in the
stator (the windings on the outside of the rotor) such that the
magnetic field rotates around the rotor once per 60 Hz cycle.

An induction motor rated at 1750 RPM is designed with four poles in the
stator such that the magnetic field rotates around the rotor once every
2 cycles of the 60 Hz.

There is no way to convert 3550 RPM induction motor to run at 1725 RPM.

There is also no way to run it at 3650 RPM unless you use an electronic
speed controller that can increase the frequency of the power driving
the motor.

DJS


Robatoy December 28th 05 01:11 AM

Mechanical difference between 1725 and 3650 AC induction motors?
 
In article .com,
"djs" wrote:

What's the essential mechanical difference between these two standards?
Are there minor mods you can make to switch them?


Induction motors run slightly slower than the synchronous speed they
are designed at.

[snipped for brevity]

Excellent explanation.

r

Lew Hodgett December 28th 05 02:29 AM

Mechanical difference between 1725 and 3650 AC induction motors?
 
Subject

2 pole motors = 3600 RPM
4 Pole motors = 1800 RPM
6 Pole motors = 1200 RPM
8 Pole motors = 900 RPM

The above are synchronous RPMs.

Induction motors require some "slip" to develop torque thus ave values
are as follows:

3450, 1725, 1150, and about 825 RPM.

Lew


hylourgos December 28th 05 05:27 AM

Mechanical difference between 1725 and 3650 AC induction motors?
 
Hey DJS, thanks, that was lucid (you too Lew). I guess the only way to
approach this is from a drive perspective.

Again, Thanks,
H


hylourgos December 30th 05 12:04 AM

Mechanical difference between 1725 and 3650 AC induction motors?
 
I ran across this dual-speed motor, but there doesn't seem to be any
room for drives in order effect the speed change. How do they do it on
this model?

H


Robert Bonomi December 31st 05 12:38 AM

Mechanical difference between 1725 and 3650 AC induction motors?
 
In article . com,
hylourgos wrote:
I ran across this dual-speed motor, but there doesn't seem to be any
room for drives in order effect the speed change. How do they do it on
this model?

H


you can design a motor with a switchable number of poles. it will run
at different speeds, depending which sets of coils, etc. are hooked up
to the power at any given time.

Multi-speed motors for GFA furnaces are one of the more common examples.


hylourgos December 31st 05 06:11 AM

Mechanical difference between 1725 and 3650 AC induction motors?
 
Thanks, H



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