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JonH November 27th 05 11:48 PM

Yellow Glue and 30 Degree Shop
 
I think that I know this answer, but I'll ask anyway. Am I asking for
trouble trying to use my Titebond II when the temps are getting on the cold
side? For me "cold" is actually anything below 70 degrees, after living in
Hawaii for 5 years. But around here ( American Fork, Utah ) the temps are in
the mid 20s at night and today it barely got past 32 deg ( F, by the way ).
So will my glue just freeze and never "do it's thing?" or can I glue my
stuff, be patient and wait a day or two?

Thanks in advance,
Jon in American Fork



Tyke November 28th 05 12:06 AM

Yellow Glue and 30 Degree Shop
 
I thought I read somewhere on the directions that application temperature
had to be above 50 F. I just went to www.titebond.com where they state
application temperature should be above 55 F.

I do not think the resulting bond will be as strong as desired if the joint
is subjected to freezing before the glue has set.

Dave Paine.
"JonH" wrote in message
...
I think that I know this answer, but I'll ask anyway. Am I asking for
trouble trying to use my Titebond II when the temps are getting on the cold
side? For me "cold" is actually anything below 70 degrees, after living in
Hawaii for 5 years. But around here ( American Fork, Utah ) the temps are
in the mid 20s at night and today it barely got past 32 deg ( F, by the
way ). So will my glue just freeze and never "do it's thing?" or can I
glue my stuff, be patient and wait a day or two?

Thanks in advance,
Jon in American Fork




[email protected] November 28th 05 02:10 AM

Yellow Glue and 30 Degree Shop
 
Speaking from experience. Last winter, I glued up a large panel in
my 'garage' shop with minimal heat. I came back a few hrs later (my
feet were cold) and the glue mostly froze, although it did bite enough
for me bring the assy indoors (livingroom) for knock down and
regluing. It came apart too easy, meaning the glue froze long before
it could set. An indicator of freezing glue is instead of turning
clear, it 'dries' white. Oh yeah, It was 32C below .

Pete



On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:48:55 -0700, "JonH"
wrote:

I think that I know this answer, but I'll ask anyway. Am I asking for
trouble trying to use my Titebond II when the temps are getting on the cold
side? For me "cold" is actually anything below 70 degrees, after living in
Hawaii for 5 years. But around here ( American Fork, Utah ) the temps are in
the mid 20s at night and today it barely got past 32 deg ( F, by the way ).
So will my glue just freeze and never "do it's thing?" or can I glue my
stuff, be patient and wait a day or two?

Thanks in advance,
Jon in American Fork




J T November 28th 05 08:38 AM

Yellow Glue and 30 Degree Shop
 
Sun, Nov 27, 2005, 4:48pm (EST-2) (JonH) doth put
out:
I think that I know this answer, but I'll ask anyway. Am I asking for
trouble trying to use my Titebond II when the temps are getting on the
cold side?

Then why ask?

Yes.

If you had read the label on the back of the bottle, along with
other good information, including a 1-800 number you can call, it
clearly states: "Do not use when temperature, glue or materials, are
below 55ºF."

Gosh, this group is really getting boring again.



JOAT
A rolling stone gathers no moss...unless it's a hobby he does on the
weekends.


C & S November 28th 05 10:47 AM

Yellow Glue and 30 Degree Shop
 
If you had read the label on the back of the bottle, along with
other good information, including a 1-800 number you can call, it
clearly states: "Do not use when temperature, glue or materials, are
below 55ºF."

That is the chalk point... when you see it you'll kno wwhy they call it
that.

BTW for TB-I (classic titebond) it's 50 for TB - III it's 47.



Chris Friesen November 28th 05 03:29 PM

Yellow Glue and 30 Degree Shop
 
JonH wrote:
But around here ( American Fork, Utah ) the temps are in
the mid 20s at night and today it barely got past 32 deg ( F, by the way ).
So will my glue just freeze and never "do it's thing?" or can I glue my
stuff, be patient and wait a day or two?


One thing to be careful about...most PVA glues are only rated for a
certain number of freeze/thaw cycles in the bottle. After that, they
can go bad.

Chris

JonH November 29th 05 03:40 PM

Yellow Glue and 30 Degree Shop
 
Thanks guys, for making up for my laziness and not reading the label. I have
since moved my project indoors and plan on enlisting the aid of the dining
room table after everything warms up.

Jon


wrote in message ...
Speaking from experience. Last winter, I glued up a large panel in
my 'garage' shop with minimal heat. I came back a few hrs later (my
feet were cold) and the glue mostly froze, although it did bite enough
for me bring the assy indoors (livingroom) for knock down and
regluing. It came apart too easy, meaning the glue froze long before
it could set. An indicator of freezing glue is instead of turning
clear, it 'dries' white. Oh yeah, It was 32C below .

Pete



On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:48:55 -0700, "JonH"
wrote:

I think that I know this answer, but I'll ask anyway. Am I asking for
trouble trying to use my Titebond II when the temps are getting on the
cold
side? For me "cold" is actually anything below 70 degrees, after living
in
Hawaii for 5 years. But around here ( American Fork, Utah ) the temps are
in
the mid 20s at night and today it barely got past 32 deg ( F, by the
way ).
So will my glue just freeze and never "do it's thing?" or can I glue my
stuff, be patient and wait a day or two?

Thanks in advance,
Jon in American Fork







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