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David November 12th 05 01:34 AM

Lateral play in SCMS's
 
I finally got a chance to check out the 12" Makita slider alongside the
other contenders such as PC, Bosch, and DeWalt 718. The Makita wins
hands down the title of most rigid assembly (and it slides almost as
well as the new Bosch). The PC is the next best, the Dewalt I rate 3rd,
and the Bosch is loosey-goosey--too much flex! That's a shame, because
otherwise the Bosch looks well thought out, and it slides effortlessly.
The Bosch , like the DeWalt has a drive belt.

Dave

David November 12th 05 01:35 AM

Lateral play in SCMS's
 

BTW, the Makita is the LS1214

Frank Drackman November 12th 05 03:05 AM

Lateral play in SCMS's
 

"David" wrote in message
...
I finally got a chance to check out the 12" Makita slider alongside the
other contenders such as PC, Bosch, and DeWalt 718. The Makita wins hands
down the title of most rigid assembly (and it slides almost as well as the
new Bosch). The PC is the next best, the Dewalt I rate 3rd, and the Bosch
is loosey-goosey--too much flex! That's a shame, because otherwise the
Bosch looks well thought out, and it slides effortlessly. The Bosch , like
the DeWalt has a drive belt.

Dave


Do you have procedures and data that you could share? It is hard to get any
real information from terms like loosey-goosey and how do you know that you
were applying the same amount of force to each unit?

Frank



Jim November 12th 05 03:49 AM

Lateral play in SCMS's
 

"David" wrote in message
...
I finally got a chance to check out the 12" Makita slider alongside the
other contenders such as PC, Bosch, and DeWalt 718. The Makita wins hands
down the title of most rigid assembly (and it slides almost as well as the
new Bosch). The PC is the next best, the Dewalt I rate 3rd, and the Bosch
is loosey-goosey--too much flex! That's a shame, because otherwise the
Bosch looks well thought out, and it slides effortlessly. The Bosch , like
the DeWalt has a drive belt.

Dave

The DW718 that I tried at Lowe's certainly did not feel loose.
Jim



David November 12th 05 06:12 AM

Lateral play in SCMS's
 
Frank Drackman wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...

I finally got a chance to check out the 12" Makita slider alongside the
other contenders such as PC, Bosch, and DeWalt 718. The Makita wins hands
down the title of most rigid assembly (and it slides almost as well as the
new Bosch). The PC is the next best, the Dewalt I rate 3rd, and the Bosch
is loosey-goosey--too much flex! That's a shame, because otherwise the
Bosch looks well thought out, and it slides effortlessly. The Bosch , like
the DeWalt has a drive belt.

Dave



Do you have procedures and data that you could share? It is hard to get any
real information from terms like loosey-goosey and how do you know that you
were applying the same amount of force to each unit?

Frank


the differences were so dramatic, I don't need a strain gauge to tell
the difference, Frank!

"loosey-goosey" is a highly technical term, anyway...

Dave

David November 12th 05 06:12 AM

Lateral play in SCMS's
 
Jim wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...

I finally got a chance to check out the 12" Makita slider alongside the
other contenders such as PC, Bosch, and DeWalt 718. The Makita wins hands
down the title of most rigid assembly (and it slides almost as well as the
new Bosch). The PC is the next best, the Dewalt I rate 3rd, and the Bosch
is loosey-goosey--too much flex! That's a shame, because otherwise the
Bosch looks well thought out, and it slides effortlessly. The Bosch , like
the DeWalt has a drive belt.

Dave


The DW718 that I tried at Lowe's certainly did not feel loose.
Jim


then you have perhaps no basis for comparison? I've tried several, now.

Dave

Joe Brophy November 12th 05 06:30 AM

Lateral play in SCMS's
 
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:34:09 -0800, David wrote:

I finally got a chance to check out the 12" Makita slider alongside the
other contenders such as PC, Bosch, and DeWalt 718. The Makita wins
hands down the title of most rigid assembly (and it slides almost as
well as the new Bosch). The PC is the next best, the Dewalt I rate 3rd,
and the Bosch is loosey-goosey--too much flex! That's a shame, because
otherwise the Bosch looks well thought out, and it slides effortlessly.
The Bosch , like the DeWalt has a drive belt.

Dave


Have you or anyone else compared the new 12" Hitachi to the others? I saw one the other
day and it was huge, complete with the laser sight and a lcd numeric display on the hand
grip. (was in a hurry didn't get to see what the display was about....?) Has to be up the
with the biggest yet, although the makita has a novel drive system and isa great unit.
Seems like all the 12" SCMS have gone through some redesign since the Dewalt 12" hit the
street a couple of years ago...as the laser sights go however, the most useful one I have
seen from my perspective is the ones that are two beams that actually define the kerf of
the blade, otherwise just a simple laser lit line is not advantage from before using built
in graduations, or even pencil. Joe.

Joe Brophy
CountryTech Computer
email:

[email protected] November 12th 05 04:05 PM

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Dave,

What I'm wondering is, where did you try them and who assembled them?
If you're talking about some store that had all those saws on display,
assembled by one or two minimum-wage people who had time to get the
first three assembled and adjusted right but got told to get the lead
out for the last one, which was a Bosch, I have to wonder if the test
might be a little questionable. At the very least, if one of them felt
all loosey goosey, I'd want to check and see if anything needed a
little righty tighty.


Jim November 12th 05 04:37 PM

Lateral play in SCMS's
 

"David" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...

I finally got a chance to check out the 12" Makita slider alongside the
other contenders such as PC, Bosch, and DeWalt 718. The Makita wins
hands down the title of most rigid assembly (and it slides almost as well
as the new Bosch). The PC is the next best, the Dewalt I rate 3rd, and
the Bosch is loosey-goosey--too much flex! That's a shame, because
otherwise the Bosch looks well thought out, and it slides effortlessly.
The Bosch , like the DeWalt has a drive belt.

Dave


The DW718 that I tried at Lowe's certainly did not feel loose.
Jim

then you have perhaps no basis for comparison? I've tried several, now.

Dave

Well, you have tried several assemblers whose only job is to get the thing
on display. Of course, I have tried only one mainly because I am not in the
market for a device this expensive.
Jim



David November 12th 05 06:23 PM

Lateral play in SCMS's
 
wrote:

Dave,

What I'm wondering is, where did you try them and who assembled them?
If you're talking about some store that had all those saws on display,
assembled by one or two minimum-wage people who had time to get the
first three assembled and adjusted right but got told to get the lead
out for the last one, which was a Bosch, I have to wonder if the test
might be a little questionable. At the very least, if one of them felt
all loosey goosey, I'd want to check and see if anything needed a
little righty tighty.

nothing to do with assy. has ALL to do with the design.

Dave

David November 12th 05 06:23 PM

Lateral play in SCMS's
 
Jim wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...

Jim wrote:


"David" wrote in message
...


I finally got a chance to check out the 12" Makita slider alongside the
other contenders such as PC, Bosch, and DeWalt 718. The Makita wins
hands down the title of most rigid assembly (and it slides almost as well
as the new Bosch). The PC is the next best, the Dewalt I rate 3rd, and
the Bosch is loosey-goosey--too much flex! That's a shame, because
otherwise the Bosch looks well thought out, and it slides effortlessly.
The Bosch , like the DeWalt has a drive belt.

Dave

The DW718 that I tried at Lowe's certainly did not feel loose.
Jim


then you have perhaps no basis for comparison? I've tried several, now.

Dave


Well, you have tried several assemblers whose only job is to get the thing
on display. Of course, I have tried only one mainly because I am not in the
market for a device this expensive.
Jim


i wish it wasn't over $600 myself. :)

Dave


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