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ddakadmc October 27th 05 04:33 PM

6" jointer/planer question
 
I am very new into woodworking and want to furnish my small shop with
good affordable equipment.

I have an opportunity to purchase a new Delta x5 6" jointer for a final
cost of $323.92. I know that is a good price, but I am asking the
following questions:

What is the difference between the x5 6" Jointer (37-275X) and the 6"
Professional Jointer (37-195)? They look identical in the specs.

Are there other 6" Jointers I should be looking at in the $400 range
(which I can't seem to locate easily).

What planer would you ball recommend? My local shop has the DeWalt
13"(DW735) at $449 after rebates and that would come with an extra set
of blades. That is a lot for me to spend. Any suggestions on other
decent brands that cost less, or where I might be able to get this item
for less?

Thanks for your help.
Doug


Stephen M October 27th 05 04:54 PM

6" jointer/planer question
 

What is the difference between the x5 6" Jointer (37-275X) and the 6"
Professional Jointer (37-195)? They look identical in the specs.


'Dunno

Are there other 6" Jointers I should be looking at in the $400 range
(which I can't seem to locate easily).


IMHO, with jointers, only 2 things *really* matter everything else is down
there with paint color. 1. Size matters (longer is always better) and 2.
Flatness is everything. Get a good quality straightedge and make sure that
your castings are flat and parallel. It does not matter whose jointer you
buy; everybody makes a lemon every now and then. Make sure that the verdor
(not the necessarily the manufacturer) will make things right if you get
unlucky.


What planer would you ball recommend? My local shop has the DeWalt
13"(DW735) at $449 after rebates and that would come with an extra set
of blades. That is a lot for me to spend. Any suggestions on other
decent brands that cost less, or where I might be able to get this item
for less?


I have a Dewalt 733 with which I am very happy. I beleive that it has been
replaced by the 734 which is considerably cheaper than the 735.



Wilson October 27th 05 05:01 PM

6" jointer/planer question
 
If you are doing hobby work and not handling a lot of rough lumber, the
cheap 12" planers will be fine. I, and now my son, have used a C'man for
nearly 10 yr. I even did some 2X10 rough floor joists on it! They are
$100-150 used. The planer is a great tool, but there are many more
productive places to spend the extra money.

The big thing on jointers is bed length. You can't straighten anything a
whole lot longer than the infeed table. I rip all long boards with a
sliding carrier and then joint. The price is great. Used C'men, which are
fine but short, are $150-200.

Please mail my two pennies asap,
Wilson


"ddakadmc" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am very new into woodworking and want to furnish my small shop with
good affordable equipment.

I have an opportunity to purchase a new Delta x5 6" jointer for a final
cost of $323.92. I know that is a good price, but I am asking the
following questions:

What is the difference between the x5 6" Jointer (37-275X) and the 6"
Professional Jointer (37-195)? They look identical in the specs.

Are there other 6" Jointers I should be looking at in the $400 range
(which I can't seem to locate easily).

What planer would you ball recommend? My local shop has the DeWalt
13"(DW735) at $449 after rebates and that would come with an extra set
of blades. That is a lot for me to spend. Any suggestions on other
decent brands that cost less, or where I might be able to get this item
for less?

Thanks for your help.
Doug




Toller October 27th 05 05:17 PM

6" jointer/planer question
 
If you buy new equipment, you pretty much get what you pay for. Only you
can figure out your balance between features and quality versus price.

You can get both by buying used. Almost all my equipment is used. It is
"like new" for half price. Admittedly that takes a certain amount of luck,
both in finding it before anyone else, and not getting screwed with junk;
but it can be done.



tom October 27th 05 05:34 PM

6" jointer/planer question
 
Upon investigation, the X5 comes with a 5 year warrantee, versus the
"professional's" standard 2 year warrantee. The blades on the DeWalt
735 are disposable, while the 733's are resharpenable. That was enough
for me to forgo the "upgrade". Tom


[email protected] October 27th 05 05:57 PM

6" jointer/planer question
 
I have my eyes on a lot of grizzly equipment, but my planer is the
Ryobi 13 inch model. If you aren't doing it for a living, I think the
Ryobi works great. I used it to plane the 4x8 stock you see in this
photo: www.astutesolutions.net/images/workbench.jpg and the 2x10's that
are layed in the center of it. The stock was some pretty nasty looking
stuff before I planed them down.

If you have doubts about the Ryobi, don't buy until you need it. Use
it, and if you don't like it, take it back. Thats what I did and ended
up keeping it.

Thanks.
Jeff


davide1209 October 27th 05 06:06 PM

6" jointer/planer question
 
Can you please elaborate on what you mean by ripping boards with a
sliding carrier. I have had some problems jointing long stock and
might benefit from your wisdom if I had a better picture of your
process.

Thanks in advance.


Unquestionably Confused October 27th 05 06:08 PM

6" jointer/planer question
 
on 10/27/2005 11:34 AM tom said the following:
Upon investigation, the X5 comes with a 5 year warrantee, versus the
"professional's" standard 2 year warrantee. The blades on the DeWalt
735 are disposable, while the 733's are resharpenable. That was enough
for me to forgo the "upgrade".


When I was looking at the DeWalts (fell into a deal for a Delta so I'm
out of the market for now) one of the things I was told was that with
the replacable blade (and I THINK this was on the 734 and not the 735)
the slots in the blade allow for sideways movement which is great.

It's all well and good to have the holes register the blades precisely
when reinstalling but... The beauty of the longitudal slot is that you
can shift one or more blades minutely in the horizontal plane to remove
evidence of a nicked blade edge.

As for the 733/734 vs 735... the price differential between the blades
for the 733 and those for the 734 & 735 is not all that much when you
consider you're getting an extra blade and two sharp edges. I've heard
that unless you were planing some old pallets or reclaimed wood with
nails in it you can touch up those disposable blades. Then too I would
consider the dual speed and the three blades with the 734/735 and the
resultant quality of the finish before making my selection.

Unless the deal was a great one on the 733 or 734, I think I'd be
tempted to go with the 735 when it's on sale. Haven't heard a bad thing
about it yet.

I just wish I could remember which one of the units (734 or 735) allowed
for the lateral movement of the blade. I seem to think it was the 734
which I thought rather odd. Why not put it on all or, if not, include
that feature on the top end model?


B a r r y October 27th 05 06:31 PM

6" jointer/planer question
 
tom wrote:
The blades on the DeWalt
735 are disposable, while the 733's are resharpenable. That was enough
for me to forgo the "upgrade".


Same here. I have 3 sets of 733 blades that I cycle through the machine
and to the sharpener.

Things can be going along great, and then one gritty board destroys the
edges. Sometimes, I've been unlucky enough to have the gritty board go
through the same day I've installed the fresh edges. G

Barry

[email protected] October 27th 05 07:33 PM

6" jointer/planer question
 

Stephen M wrote:

I have a Dewalt 733 with which I am very happy. I beleive that it has been
replaced by the 734 which is considerably cheaper than the 735.


Yeah, the 734 replaced the 733...it added a third knife to the cutter
head, but I'm not sure if anything else changed or not.

I've never used the 733, but I love my 734. I have to use a DC on it
(a shop vac doesn't have enough suction and allows the chips to clog),
but I love the folding supports and I just don't have a damn bit of
snipe with it. Was about $120 cheaper than the 735.

So far a great tool.


John Girouard October 27th 05 07:47 PM

6" jointer/planer question
 
I just wish I could remember which one of the units (734 or 735) allowed
for the lateral movement of the blade. I seem to think it was the 734
which I thought rather odd. Why not put it on all or, if not, include
that feature on the top end model?


I can't speak to the 734, but the 735 allows the lateral movement you're
talking about.

-John

Tom Banes October 27th 05 09:48 PM

6" jointer/planer question
 


Are there other 6" Jointers I should be looking at in the $400 range
(which I can't seem to locate easily).


Probably attracting flames here but HD sells the 6" Ridgid jointer
that I have. Mine is flat (in and out) to a Veritas 36" straight edge
and it has straightened out a bunch of less than straight red oak 8/4
boards for me. DC is good when hooked up to a dust collector.

What planer would you ball recommend?


I have the DW 735 and am impressed. I too got a deal on extra blades
plus the stand (which is really nice - see my post a couple of months
ago). Yeh, it ain't cheap, but it sure does a nice job on the
finishing speed. It will blow chips all over kingdom come if you don't
hook it up to a DC.

Regards.


Unquestionably Confused October 27th 05 11:09 PM

6" jointer/planer question
 
on 10/27/2005 1:47 PM John Girouard said the following:
I just wish I could remember which one of the units (734 or 735)
allowed for the lateral movement of the blade. I seem to think it was
the 734 which I thought rather odd. Why not put it on all or, if not,
include that feature on the top end model?


I can't speak to the 734, but the 735 allows the lateral movement you're
talking about.


Okay, that's it then. According to the sales guy, only one of the two
had it. A worthwhile "feature" I think, especially with a three bladed
unit. Depending upon the size of the nick you should have a minimum of
three "quick cures" before you actually have to do some semi-serious
work to cure the problem.


ddakadmc October 28th 05 10:16 PM

6" jointer/planer question
 
Thanks for all the info. I am going to get the jointer, the price is
to good (and I found out about the longer warranty as well).. The Ryobi
was one I was thinking of and will probably wait and try that one when
the time comes.

The workbench looks nice. I showed my wife a butcher block table and
told her that is what I can do with a jointer.

Thanks again.
Doug


Nick Bozovich October 29th 05 03:56 AM

6" jointer/planer question
 
If you're still looking for a jointer, I have a Jet JJ6-CSX for sale - hope
it's not too tacky to advertise here. It has three knife setts, and a
mobile base. I was asking $300, but I'm negotiable a little on price.

I'm in South Central PA -

Nick B
ndotbozovichatsuscomdotnet


"ddakadmc" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am very new into woodworking and want to furnish my small shop with
good affordable equipment.

I have an opportunity to purchase a new Delta x5 6" jointer for a final
cost of $323.92. I know that is a good price, but I am asking the
following questions:

What is the difference between the x5 6" Jointer (37-275X) and the 6"
Professional Jointer (37-195)? They look identical in the specs.

Are there other 6" Jointers I should be looking at in the $400 range
(which I can't seem to locate easily).

What planer would you ball recommend? My local shop has the DeWalt
13"(DW735) at $449 after rebates and that would come with an extra set
of blades. That is a lot for me to spend. Any suggestions on other
decent brands that cost less, or where I might be able to get this item
for less?

Thanks for your help.
Doug





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