Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone had any experience getting a company logo onto
wood.

A branding iron has a really nice look which is what I want (eventually) but
right now I can't spend 200 plus dollars on one.

I was going to go the "custom rubber stamp" for the logo and light load of
gel stain.

My question is:

1. Would the stain react to the rubber on the stamp?
2. Would the stain run when I apply a finish coat even after it's dried.

I've got to make a ton of these boxes and a need a quick, good looking way
of applying a company logo.

Anybody try this?

JD.

"James Dean" wrote in message
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Hi all,

1. Would the stain react to the rubber on the stamp?

My assumption is that it probably would not if you removed it immediately.
But since you need to do a ton of these it might. Have you considered
simply using an ink to stamp the logo?


2. Would the stain run when I apply a finish coat even after it's dried.

It should not providing it is truyely dried and you use caution around the
logo area.


I've got to make a ton of these boxes and a need a quick, good looking way
of applying a company logo.

Anybody try this?


No, but I too have been contemplating using a branding iron for years but
was always turned off by the cost and the time it would probably take to
heat the iron up.
Thanks for the idea of using a rubber stamp, I think I am going to try this
idea out my self and use black ink.

"James Dean" wrote in message news:YXgVe.2378 Hi all,

A branding iron has a really nice look which is what I want (eventually)
but
right now I can't spend 200 plus dollars on one.

Does it have to have your logo? Lee Valley Tools has three types of branding
irons with various types of word configurations available. The cheapest is
about $40 Canadian. Enter "branding" as your search parameter.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/Search.aspx?c=2&action=n

Some types of iron-on transfer sheets such as the ones used for making
t-shirts can also be used on wood. You could probably print 15-20 logos on
a single sheet, cut them out and apply them to each piece.

Lee

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You might try finding someone local to laser engrave them for you. It
might not be the look you want, but if it is they might be able to make
you a nice price based on volume. I do a lot of my own stuff that way
and also engrave pieces for others. Your box would have to be able to
fit inside the laser in most cases so it may or may not fit in every
machine. You can also fill a laser engraved logo with one or more
colors if that were appropriate or desired.


James Dean wrote:
Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone had any experience getting a company logo onto
wood.

A branding iron has a really nice look which is what I want (eventually) but
right now I can't spend 200 plus dollars on one.

I was going to go the "custom rubber stamp" for the logo and light load of
gel stain.

My question is:

1. Would the stain react to the rubber on the stamp?
2. Would the stain run when I apply a finish coat even after it's dried.

I've got to make a ton of these boxes and a need a quick, good looking way
of applying a company logo.

Anybody try this?

JD.

PCProffitt wrote in
link.net:

You might try finding someone local to laser engrave them for you.

A local trophy shop did the name tags for our woodworking club with their
laser engraver. Came out really nicely, with excellent detail on the logo.
These would have to be attached in some manner to the piece.

The price was under $5 each in modest volume, as I recall.

Patriarch

Hey guys,

thanks for the ideas,
ya'll have given me some things to think about and plenty to try.

Another thing I might do to get around the stain reacting to the rubber
stamp is to use ink on some MDF or other smooth wood and cut that stamp
design out of the MDF and use it as the stamp, should last longer than the
rubber stamp.

I'll let ya'll know how it turned out.

Trying to keep the box materials to around or under $5, so I'm having to
resaw some lumber. Didn't realize how much pre-dimensioned lumber cost.

JD.

"Patriarch" wrote in message
. 97.136...
PCProffitt wrote in
link.net:

You might try finding someone local to laser engrave them for you.

A local trophy shop did the name tags for our woodworking club with their
laser engraver. Came out really nicely, with excellent detail on the
logo.
These would have to be attached in some manner to the piece.

The price was under $5 each in modest volume, as I recall.

Patriarch

In article YXgVe.2378$R9.443@trnddc02, James Dean
wrote:

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My question is:

1. Would the stain react to the rubber on the stamp?
2. Would the stain run when I apply a finish coat even after it's dried.

I've got to make a ton of these boxes and a need a quick, good looking way
of applying a company logo.

Anybody try this?

JD.


It will depend on what type of stain and what type of material the
stamp is made from. If the stamp is made from photo polymer, which will
let you reproduce almost any logo, oil based stains will likely affect
it, perhaps water based stains would work. I would check with the maker
of the stamp as to what type of stain you can use with there material.

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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:20:40 GMT, "James Dean"
wrote:

Hey guys,

thanks for the ideas,
ya'll have given me some things to think about and plenty to try.

Another thing I might do to get around the stain reacting to the rubber
stamp is to use ink on some MDF or other smooth wood and cut that stamp
design out of the MDF and use it as the stamp, should last longer than the
rubber stamp.

well, that will get you a mirror image of your logo. so have the
rubber stamp made backwards, actually forward. got that? now if your
logo is bilaterally symmetrical none of this matters, but if it has
handedness or has lettering in it or anything like that you'll want to
be sure you get it right.

I suspect that the rubber stamp will hold up fine to being used with
stain. if you have any doubt, go to the place you'll be having the
stamp made and ask them if they have any blooper stamps you could have
to run a test on.

If you're logo is simple, you could try doing it freehand or with a simple
template using a electrical soldering iron.

I've thought aobut trying this with an old soldering iron, might look good,
might look rubbish.

worth a try though.

J

James Dean wrote:
Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone had any experience getting a company logo onto
wood.

A branding iron has a really nice look which is what I want (eventually) but
right now I can't spend 200 plus dollars on one.

I'm making some branding irons myself, also for boxes.
(small ones - check out http://www.customcardboxes.com.
Hopefully I'll get pictures up of the brands soon)

Local scrap yard- alum barstock 2.5" wide, 1" thick, long enough
Cut off with borrowd metal cutting bandsaw.

Glue paper copy of logo to it, trace outline with
knife (otherwise it'll fuzz your edges as you cut it)

Don't forget to mirror left-right your logo. (DAMHIKT).

Hit the large places w/ a drill bitt in a drill press.
The background won't look smooth and pretty, but that doesn't
matter. Work to smaller drill bits.

Finish details out using a dremel w/ routing attachment. 1/32"
bit does pretty well.

Drill/tap the back to take a bolt for a handle- I did 3/8.

This may not work so well for text where you want really clean/straight
lines, but if the logo's more of a picture, it should work fine.



I was going to go the "custom rubber stamp" for the logo and light load of
gel stain.

My question is:

1. Would the stain react to the rubber on the stamp?
2. Would the stain run when I apply a finish coat even after it's dried.

I've got to make a ton of these boxes and a need a quick, good looking way
of applying a company logo.

Anybody try this?

JD.



--
Nobody Special

Wife got a Dremel Versa Tip so I could sign work but she doesn't like
the way I write "Boob". Beats soldering iron.

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:39:41 +0100, "J" wrote:

If you're logo is simple, you could try doing it freehand or with a simple
template using a electrical soldering iron.

I've thought aobut trying this with an old soldering iron, might look good,
might look rubbish.

worth a try though.

J

Nobody_special wrote:


I'm making some branding irons myself, also for boxes.
(small ones - check out http://www.customcardboxes.com.
Hopefully I'll get pictures up of the brands soon)


Local scrap yard- alum barstock 2.5" wide, 1" thick, long enough
Cut off with borrowd metal cutting bandsaw.

Glue paper copy of logo to it, trace outline with
knife (otherwise it'll fuzz your edges as you cut it)

Don't forget to mirror left-right your logo. (DAMHIKT).

Hit the large places w/ a drill bitt in a drill press.
The background won't look smooth and pretty, but that doesn't
matter. Work to smaller drill bits.

Finish details out using a dremel w/ routing attachment. 1/32"
bit does pretty well.

Drill/tap the back to take a bolt for a handle- I did 3/8.

This may not work so well for text where you want really clean/straight
lines, but if the logo's more of a picture, it should work fine.


So-- how do you heat the iron? I made a small star brand out of a bolt
& used the drill press & propane to heat it up, Then used the drill
handle to stamp/brand some dominos I was making.
Could you use a large soldering iron & connect the brand where the
soldering tip would go?
Just thinking out loud here, but maybe copper would work for the iron
too- as it conducts heat a little better than aluminum & you can see
when the copper is getting too hot- Aluminum just goes a straw color
then melts

Phil at small (vs at large) wrote:
Nobody_special wrote:


I'm making some branding irons myself, also for boxes.
(small ones - check out http://www.customcardboxes.com.
Hopefully I'll get pictures up of the brands soon)



branding iron fabrication snipped

So-- how do you heat the iron? I made a small star brand out of a bolt
& used the drill press & propane to heat it up, Then used the drill
handle to stamp/brand some dominos I was making.
Could you use a large soldering iron & connect the brand where the
soldering tip would go?
Just thinking out loud here, but maybe copper would work for the iron
too- as it conducts heat a little better than aluminum & you can see
when the copper is getting too hot- Aluminum just goes a straw color
then melts


BBQ grill for a few minutes. Actually, it took a while to heat
up the 2.5"x2.5"x1" block to a hot enough temp. Nice thing is that
since Alum melts at ~1100F or so, I don't worry about it metling in
the grill.

I've only used it a couple of times, but that should change
in the next month as I get into a job for a friend.

The good news is that it stays hot long enough to brand more
boxes per heating than I've wanted to do.

--
Nobody Special
Chandler, AZ

Puff Griffis wrote:
I am not sure why it would cost $200
http://www.azwoodman.com/branding-irons.html
Puff


Evidently you didn't look at the pricing on the logo
branding irons: $159 for torch heated, $199 for electric.

That, and you're restricted to under 3sq inches.
(Why it's not inches square, I don't know)

--
Nobody Special
Chandler, AZ

I am not sure why it would cost $200
http://www.azwoodman.com/branding-irons.html
Puff

"James Dean" wrote in message =
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Hi all,
=20
I was wondering if anyone had any experience getting a company logo =
onto
wood.
=20
A branding iron has a really nice look which is what I want =
(eventually) but
right now I can't spend 200 plus dollars on one.
=20
I was going to go the "custom rubber stamp" for the logo and light =
load of
gel stain.
=20
My question is:
=20
1. Would the stain react to the rubber on the stamp?
2. Would the stain run when I apply a finish coat even after it's =
dried.
=20
I've got to make a ton of these boxes and a need a quick, good looking =
way
of applying a company logo.
=20
Anybody try this?
=20
JD.
=20

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:13:33 -0700, Nobody_special wrote:

That, and you're restricted to under 3sq inches.
(Why it's not inches square, I don't know)

Um, because that'd be 3 times as big?

Dave Hinz wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:13:33 -0700, Nobody_special wrote:


That, and you're restricted to under 3sq inches.
(Why it's not inches square, I don't know)


Um, because that'd be 3 times as big?

It wasn't an area question.

I'd have expected an X by Y size limit.
3 sq inches would let someone make one 12 by .25 inches.


--
Nobody special

Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 3:15pm (EDT+4) (James=A0Dean) came
up with:
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone had any experience getting a company logo onto
wood. snip

Probably someone, somewhere. I glue a business card inside my
stuff.

Branding iron? No prob, make one. Etching cream, muratic acid,
lemon juice (whatever); piece of steel, brass (whatever); handle. Might
want to make sure your design is reversed when you etch it; simple,
complicated, small, large, no prob. I posted on how to make one, long
ago. Check the archives, if you need details. If you spend more than
about $10, you did something wrong.



JOAT
I don't believe in reincarnation. I used to, but that was in another
life.

Frank Campbell wrote:
In article YXgVe.2378$R9.443@trnddc02, James Dean
wrote:

snip

My question is:

1. Would the stain react to the rubber on the stamp?
2. Would the stain run when I apply a finish coat even after it's dried.

I've got to make a ton of these boxes and a need a quick, good looking way
of applying a company logo.

Anybody try this?

JD.



It will depend on what type of stain and what type of material the
stamp is made from. If the stamp is made from photo polymer, which will
let you reproduce almost any logo, oil based stains will likely affect
it, perhaps water based stains would work. I would check with the maker
of the stamp as to what type of stain you can use with there material.


I use a rubber stamp which I had Made and pigment ink, the stuff the
Stamp crafters use. I use a red on light coloured stuff and a gold on
darker. Stamp prior to finishing and once the job is done, it's permenant.
regards
John