I like the finish I get from Formby's but for the life of me I can't get the
cap off after a couple uses. I always clean the rim and inside of top after
use and have started putting wax paper between cap and rim. They must be
child AND senior proof. Guess us old guys aren't supposed to use thier
products.

So how do you get them open? This can is only 3 weeks old and used twice.

Thanks,
Al in WA

"Al" wrote in message
...
I like the finish I get from Formby's but for the life of me I can't get
the cap off after a couple uses. I always clean the rim and inside of top
after use and have started putting wax paper between cap and rim. They
must be child AND senior proof. Guess us old guys aren't supposed to use
thier products.

So how do you get them open? This can is only 3 weeks old and used twice.

Thanks,
Al in WA

Well you did what I would have first thought of. How about a bit of thinner
in the cap and wipe the bottle off with thinner.

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 18:40:42 -0700, "Al"
scribbled:

I like the finish I get from Formby's but for the life of me I can't get the
cap off after a couple uses. I always clean the rim and inside of top after
use and have started putting wax paper between cap and rim. They must be
child AND senior proof. Guess us old guys aren't supposed to use thier
products.

This is what I use on recalcitrant caps:
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...=1,43456,43400


Luigi
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On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 18:40:42 -0700, "Al"
wrote:

I like the finish I get from Formby's but for the life of me I can't get the
cap off after a couple uses. I always clean the rim and inside of top after
use and have started putting wax paper between cap and rim. They must be
child AND senior proof. Guess us old guys aren't supposed to use thier
products.

So how do you get them open? This can is only 3 weeks old and used twice.

Thanks,
Al in WA

Use a screw driver to pop off the plastic cover and then you can
easily get a grip on the metal top with channel lock pliers.

Child proofing these materials requires much safer methods than
relying on a silly plastic top.

TWS

"Al" wrote in message
...
I like the finish I get from Formby's but for the life of me I can't get
the cap off after a couple uses. I always clean the rim and inside of top
after use and have started putting wax paper between cap and rim. They
must be child AND senior proof. Guess us old guys aren't supposed to use
thier products.

So how do you get them open? This can is only 3 weeks old and used twice.


Wash your hands and the top with a non-drying oil like olive or canola. A
little bit on the threads and inside of the cap keeps things operating
smoothly. The oil on your hands emulsifies after cleaning with a bit of
dish detergent.

Channel locks with a light touch. Don't crush the cap and neck.

"Al" wrote in message
...
I like the finish I get from Formby's but for the life of me I can't get
the cap off after a couple uses. I always clean the rim and inside of top
after use and have started putting wax paper between cap and rim. They
must be child AND senior proof. Guess us old guys aren't supposed to use
thier products.

So how do you get them open? This can is only 3 weeks old and used twice.

Thanks,
Al in WA

I have resorted to a pair of pliers before... Don't crush the cap though.
Jim

I have the exact same problem with Formby's and others. I have always
been able to get them open with a strap wrench ($4.99 at Sears), Click
on this link:
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...&bidsite=CRAFT


Chuck

I have the exact same problem with Formby's and others. I have always
been able to get them open with a strap wrench ($4.99 at Sears), Click
on this link:
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...&bidsite=CRAFT


Chuck

This was the answer I got back from Formby's.
Al

--

Hi Al,

Thank you for visiting the Formby's website. We appreciate you taking the
time to contact us.

Since you didn't mention the specific Formby's product, this is in reference
to our Tung Oil Finish product:

The current cap system was approved by the CPSC and has become the accepted
(standard) cap system for the industry. While the current cap system is
approved by the CPSC, it is not the most convenient system to use. We are
aware of this and have been making an effort to redesign the cap system.
This has been an on-going process (over 4 years) and we are confident that a
"better" cap system is just around the corner.

The good news is that we are in the final testing process for two
"promising" cap systems. If one of the two cap systems passes the final
testing, we will adopt this system and proceed accordingly.

TEMPORARY SOLUTION:
Until the industry changes, I have found "Vice Grips" to be most helpful
when opening the Formby's Refinisher caps. Adjust the vice grips to fit
around the plastic cap. The vice grips should hold the cap loosely.
Squeeze the vice grip handles together. The vice grip's jaws should lock
into place. The jaws will apply enough pressure to pinch the plastic cap
steadily. The plastic cap cover will compress into the underlying metal
cap. The plastic cap has an inner ring of plastic teeth. These teeth
engage the metal cap when the cap is depressed. We are bypassing this
system by using the vice grips. The vice grip's jaws maintain consistent
pressure and contact with the metal cap through the thin plastic overlay.
Turn the vice grips counter-clockwise. It should only take a couple
rotations to remove the cap.

You may also use channel locks in the same manner, except that you will need
to maintain consistent pressure on the handles manually. Vice grips lock
into place while maintaining a set pressure to the jaws. Channel locks
require the individual to squeeze the handles and maintain this pressure on
the jaws.

Both tools work well but you may find that the vice grips require less hand
strength.

After you have removed the cap from the Tung Oil Finish container and
before you recap the container, wipe the container neck with Vaseline. The
Vaseline will lubricate the neck of the container and still allow a tight
fit for the cap. When you are ready to use the product again, the cap will
be much easier to remove. NOTE: Be sure to rub the Vaseline on the outside
of the container neck only. While Vaseline will not harm the Tung Oil
Finish, you do not want to get the Vaseline on your wood project.



Thank you again for your inquiry. If you have additional questions, please
reply with message history and I will respond as quickly as possible.

Sincerely,
Eric
Formby's Technical

"Al Miller" wrote in message
...
This was the answer I got back from Formby's.
SNIP
After you have removed the cap from the Tung Oil Finish container and
before you recap the container, wipe the container neck with Vaseline.
The Vaseline will lubricate the neck of the container and still allow a
tight fit for the cap.

Sounds like an answer I saw somewhere recently.

Al Miller wrote:

Too bad they didn't make the cap out of metal... like they do for
contact cement... slip-lock pliers work (and fit) perfectly.

This was the answer I got back from Formby's.
Al

Australopithecus scobis wrote in
news
"Don't crush that dwarf, hand me the pliers."


Everything you know is wrong.
We're all Bozo's on this bus.

And,

Please pass the sugar.

JT

In article , John Thomas
wrote:

Please pass the sugar.

Hell no. When I graduate I'm going to cut the soles off my shoes, sit
in a tree, and learn to play the flute!

djb

--
Go read this. Now.
http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000129.html

I just 'dropped in' on this, so please forgive the impertinence.

In the matter of 'future removals' . . .

When my wife {biochemist} used to work predominantly in the lab, she used a
type of 'release paper' to seal containers plus allow easy removal of caps,
etc. {"ParaFilm", I think.} Anyhow, I started using the same technique.
First with the 'film' she brought home and later with a couple of
'substitutes'. Old fashioned WAX PAPER is one, generic 'Plastic Wrap' {the
'clingy' type} is another. For the REALLY CHEAP among us, fold the
ubiquitous plastic bag the stuff came in over the opening, screw on the cap,
pull the bag up and cut off the extra.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"Al Miller" wrote in message
...
This was the answer I got back from Formby's.
Al

SNIP
After you have removed the cap from the Tung Oil Finish container and
before you recap the container, wipe the container neck with Vaseline.
The
Vaseline will lubricate the neck of the container and still allow a tight
fit for the cap. When you are ready to use the product again, the cap
will
be much easier to remove. NOTE: Be sure to rub the Vaseline on the
outside
of the container neck only. While Vaseline will not harm the Tung Oil
Finish, you do not want to get the Vaseline on your wood project.
SNIP

you can find Parafilm M at micro-mart.com
"Ron Magen" wrote in message
...
I just 'dropped in' on this, so please forgive the impertinence.

In the matter of 'future removals' . . .

When my wife {biochemist} used to work predominantly in the lab, she used
a
type of 'release paper' to seal containers plus allow easy removal of
caps,
etc. {"ParaFilm", I think.} Anyhow, I started using the same technique.
First with the 'film' she brought home and later with a couple of
'substitutes'. Old fashioned WAX PAPER is one, generic 'Plastic Wrap' {the
'clingy' type} is another. For the REALLY CHEAP among us, fold the
ubiquitous plastic bag the stuff came in over the opening, screw on the
cap,
pull the bag up and cut off the extra.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"Al Miller" wrote in message
...
This was the answer I got back from Formby's.
Al

SNIP
After you have removed the cap from the Tung Oil Finish container and
before you recap the container, wipe the container neck with Vaseline.
The
Vaseline will lubricate the neck of the container and still allow a tight
fit for the cap. When you are ready to use the product again, the cap
will
be much easier to remove. NOTE: Be sure to rub the Vaseline on the
outside
of the container neck only. While Vaseline will not harm the Tung Oil
Finish, you do not want to get the Vaseline on your wood project.
SNIP