looking for pro's & con's... the table appears to offer what I need... just
want to see how others think about it.

TIA Joe

Wow ... looked this beast up ... weighs 125 pounds! Grizzly is known for
making hefty well built equipment, albeit not usually 'polished'. Sorry,
I can't give you any info other than what I've read about the table.
Seems to be worth the bucks if you got 'em!

Jack


HMFIC- 1369 wrote:
looking for pro's & con's... the table appears to offer what I need... just
want to see how others think about it.

TIA Joe

With Shipping it's way over what I'd like but it appears to meet most of my
requirements. Even though the sliding table "looks" good, I'm wondering of
it works out that way.

I've looked 'em all over, I do like the Veritas best so far and as someone
suggested dumping the right angle it works out a lot cheaper! , but the
Grizzly appears to have caught my attention, and in the least deserves
further homework.


"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote
in message ...
Wow ... looked this beast up ... weighs 125 pounds! Grizzly is known for
making hefty well built equipment, albeit not usually 'polished'. Sorry,
I can't give you any info other than what I've read about the table.
Seems to be worth the bucks if you got 'em!

Jack


HMFIC- 1369 wrote:
looking for pro's & con's... the table appears to offer what I need...
just
want to see how others think about it.

TIA Joe

"HMFIC- 1369" PRC- wrote in message
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looking for pro's & con's... the table appears to offer what I need...
just
want to see how others think about it.

I have a cast iron sliding table on my table saw and I love it. I'm not sure
I see that a sliding table on a router table adds that much value,
especially an aluminimum one. The sliding table is only useful for wood
lengths of 26-27" or less. How do you use featherboards from the side?
There's no miter slot and you cannot use magnetic devices on an aluminum
table.

Bob

Some good points! There is no miter slot (the Veritas short one too).
Personally, I'm not sure I will use it much. I haven't used the one that I
have now, I simply using the fence.
Both the MCLS and the Veritas are less expensive models. I think it's time
to contact Grizzly, the reason behind my purchase for the most part is to
make cabinet doors. If I can get 36" of travel off of the sliding table then
I'm getting closer to a go. If not then either the Veritas $324.00 or the
MCLS $345.95 shipping included. will look better, the Grizzly is up to
$396.00 .....

Thanks, Joe


"BillyBob" wrote in message
news

"HMFIC- 1369" PRC- wrote in message
news:%OuOe.11696$0U6.2366@trnddc09...
looking for pro's & con's... the table appears to offer what I need...
just
want to see how others think about it.

I have a cast iron sliding table on my table saw and I love it. I'm not
sure
I see that a sliding table on a router table adds that much value,
especially an aluminimum one. The sliding table is only useful for wood
lengths of 26-27" or less. How do you use featherboards from the side?
There's no miter slot and you cannot use magnetic devices on an aluminum
table.

Bob

"HMFIC- 1369" PRC- wrote in message
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make cabinet doors. If I can get 36" of travel off of the sliding table
then
I'm getting closer to a go.

That's impossible with a sliding table that is 30 3/4" long. You have to
deduct the "overlap" between the slider and the main table body and also the
room required for the slider fence. The slider on my table saw is 30" long.
The maximum board width it will handle is 24". I would expect similar
results from the Grizzley router table. If you can figure out how to work it
without the fence, you may get 3-4 more inches, but that's nowhere near 36"
of travel.

Bob

"HMFIC- 1369" PRC- wrote in message
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Some good points! There is no miter slot (the Veritas short one too).


Yes, but the veritas is all steel, so magnetic featherboards work. Also you
can clamp something to the edge of the table, since it has exposed clamping
edge on all four sides. Additionally, Veritas sells a fence mounted holddown
that has side acting clamps on it. Of course its limited to narrow boards.
If you don't use side featherboards, its no big deal. I get along without
them.

Bob

The way I was looking at was that both tables are 30", if the slider draws
back 6" before the bit that'll give me 36" of travel. Correct me if I'm
wrong.

Thanks Joe

"BillyBob" wrote in message
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"HMFIC- 1369" PRC- wrote in message
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make cabinet doors. If I can get 36" of travel off of the sliding table
then
I'm getting closer to a go.

That's impossible with a sliding table that is 30 3/4" long. You have to
deduct the "overlap" between the slider and the main table body and also
the
room required for the slider fence. The slider on my table saw is 30"
long.
The maximum board width it will handle is 24". I would expect similar
results from the Grizzley router table. If you can figure out how to work
it
without the fence, you may get 3-4 more inches, but that's nowhere near
36"
of travel.

Bob

I sent an "e" to Grizzly, they acknowledged and escalated the question
quickly. I'll post when I get it!


"BillyBob" wrote in message
k.net...

"HMFIC- 1369" PRC- wrote in message
news:fOyOe.4823$Hi.2380@trnddc04...
Some good points! There is no miter slot (the Veritas short one too).


Yes, but the veritas is all steel, so magnetic featherboards work. Also
you
can clamp something to the edge of the table, since it has exposed
clamping
edge on all four sides. Additionally, Veritas sells a fence mounted
holddown
that has side acting clamps on it. Of course its limited to narrow boards.
If you don't use side featherboards, its no big deal. I get along without
them.

Bob

"*HMFIC@1369*" My wrote in message
news:fJHOe.6418$Fq2.145@trndny03...
The way I was looking at was that both tables are 30", if the slider draws
back 6" before the bit that'll give me 36" of travel. Correct me if I'm
wrong.

Joe you're looking at it wrong. I tried to think about all kinds of ways to
convince you with words but I cannot describe it. Get some boards or pieces
of paper to create a model of the router table, sliding table and the board
attached to it. Move it around and take some measurements. I think you'll
convince yourself that there is no way to get 36" of travel.

Bob

"BillyBob" wrote in message

Joe you're looking at it wrong. I tried to think about all kinds of ways
to
convince you with words but I cannot describe it. Get some boards or
pieces
of paper to create a model of the router table, sliding table and the
board
attached to it. Move it around and take some measurements. I think you'll
convince yourself that there is no way to get 36" of travel.

If you're talking about the G4227 sliding table, then the stated specs list
a crosscut capacity of 26" and the travel is 48". The only way I can
reconcile those numbers not having seen one of these tables is to think that
the beginning of a 24" long sliding table travelling 24" all the way to the
end of it's 24" diameter adds up to 48". Since the saw blade would be in the
middle of this operation, than you'd have approximately 24" crosscut
capacity or an actual 26" in this case.
http://images.grizzly.com/grizzlycom.../G4227_ds.pdf?

You've been very patient with me. It's just that The Base is ~30" with the
router bit dead center on 15.. The table center point should be approx ~22"
with an estimate of stops 4" in.

I did as you suggested I used 2 30" pieces of wood. Since I am guesstimating
that the stops are 4" from either end I come out with 82 inches of travel,
and Cutting range of 42.
15 (bit center)- 4 (stop) = 11 to the left side on the tables right. as I
move the table to the left I reach the bit with the left side at 11" of
travel as I continue for 30" of the sliders length the right side end should
travel another 11" past the router bit to the right stop.

Maximum Fence Working
Surface........................................... .........................3
" x 36"

Basically the argument is sound either way since neither of us know the
travel length of the table or even the positioning of the miter.....



Your feedback is both highly regarded and appreciated, I'm just a thick Mic.



joe



MODEL G0528 ROUTER TABLE


specs
Design
Type.............................................. ..........................
............................... Floor Model

Overall Dimensions:

Main Table
.................................................. ...........................
.....31" W x 10" D x 13.4" T

Sliding Table
.................................................. ...........................
...............31" W x 12" D

Total Table Surface
.................................................. ...........................
.....31" W x 22" D

Overall Height
.................................................. ...........................
...........................42" H

Height From Table To Floor
.................................................. ...........................
.....34" H

Overall Width
.................................................. ...........................
.............................40"W

Overall Length
.................................................. ...........................
...........................30" D

Shipping Weight
.................................................. ...........................
.....................132 lbs.

Net Machine
Weight............................................ ..........................
.....................125 lbs.

Box Size
.................................................. ...........................
.........351.2" W x 26" D x 8" H

Footprint
.................................................. ...........................
.......................40" W x 30" D

Capacities:

Suitable Routers For
Mounting.......................................... ........................3.
4 HP - 5 HP

Table Counterbore
.................................................. ...........................
.......................31.2"

Table Insert Diameters
.................................................. ...........................
.....11.8" & 25.16"

Fence Size
.................................................. ...........................
.......3" x 12" (Each Piece)

Maximum Fence Working
Surface........................................... .........................3
" x 36"

Dust
Port.............................................. ..........................
...........................................21.2"

Construction:

Main Table
.................................................. .......................Prec
ision-Ground Cast Iron

Sliding Table
.................................................. ...........................
.......................Aluminum

Fence
Assembly.......................................... ..........................
.............Aluminum & Steel

Stand
.................................................. ...........................
...............Powder-Coated Steel

Miter
Body.............................................. ..........................
...............................Aluminum

Features:

.................................................. ...........................
.....................Workpiece Hold-Downs

.................................................. ...........................
.......................Clamping Miter Gauge

.................................................. ...........................
.............Toggle Switch W/Safety Key

...................................Dual Power Outlets For Convenient
Router/Accessory Plug-Ins

.................................................. .....................45°
Table Tilt For Easy Router Mounting

.................................................. ...........................
.......................................Sliding Table




"BillyBob" wrote in message
k.net...

"*HMFIC@1369*" My wrote in message
news:fJHOe.6418$Fq2.145@trndny03...
The way I was looking at was that both tables are 30", if the slider
draws
back 6" before the bit that'll give me 36" of travel. Correct me if I'm
wrong.

Joe you're looking at it wrong. I tried to think about all kinds of ways
to
convince you with words but I cannot describe it. Get some boards or
pieces
of paper to create a model of the router table, sliding table and the
board
attached to it. Move it around and take some measurements. I think you'll
convince yourself that there is no way to get 36" of travel.

Bob

No the MODEL G0528


"Upscale" wrote in message
...
"BillyBob" wrote in message

Joe you're looking at it wrong. I tried to think about all kinds of
ways
to
convince you with words but I cannot describe it. Get some boards or
pieces
of paper to create a model of the router table, sliding table and the
board
attached to it. Move it around and take some measurements. I think
you'll
convince yourself that there is no way to get 36" of travel.

If you're talking about the G4227 sliding table, then the stated specs
list
a crosscut capacity of 26" and the travel is 48". The only way I can
reconcile those numbers not having seen one of these tables is to think
that
the beginning of a 24" long sliding table travelling 24" all the way to
the
end of it's 24" diameter adds up to 48". Since the saw blade would be in
the
middle of this operation, than you'd have approximately 24" crosscut
capacity or an actual 26" in this case.
http://images.grizzly.com/grizzlycom.../G4227_ds.pdf?

"HMFIC- 1369" PRC- wrote in message
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Basically the argument is sound either way since neither of us know the
travel length of the table or even the positioning of the miter.....



Your feedback is both highly regarded and appreciated, I'm just a thick
Mic.

Guess what? YOU ARE RIGHT! I finally did what I suggested you do - make a
model of some sort and play with it. I must admit I was constrained in my
thinking by my table saw slider. Its identical functionally. The
difference is that the slider is a 75 pound hunk of cast iron. Because of
this, the table is highly restricted by the manufacturer on how far it can
extend in either direction. In fact, the travel is limited to exactly 50% of
the length of the slider. This is intentional, so the center of gravity of
the slider does not move past the edge of the table, causing it to try to
tip. Its a Jet saw and I would expect their design to be conservative.

So the distance of travel is going to be determined by how the manufacturer
has limited the extension in either direction to ensure stability (assuming
they limited it at all). I worked out the formula.

Travel distance = Length of slider + (Length of slider/2) - Length of
overlap between table and slider

If we assume an overlap of 10", then

Travel distance = 30.75 + (30.75/2) - 10
= 36.125"

If we assume an overlap of 50% of the length, then
Travel distance = 30.75 +(30.75/2) - (30.75/2)
=30.75"

I posted a drawing in alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking.

Maybe we should start a lottery to see what the answer is. Let us know what
you learn from Grizzley.


Bob