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mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net August 16th 05 11:39 PM

Laser guides for drill presses
 
I noticed that some drill presses come equipped with laser guides. Is
this something that you can buy as an attachment to most drill presses?

Jack


Leon August 17th 05 12:17 AM


"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote
in message ...
I noticed that some drill presses come equipped with laser guides. Is this
something that you can buy as an attachment to most drill presses?



No. Seems to me the bit points right where it is going to hit.



Edwin Pawlowski August 17th 05 12:35 AM


"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote
in message ...
I noticed that some drill presses come equipped with laser guides. Is this
something that you can buy as an attachment to most drill presses?

Jack



I don't know. My DP has a solid metal pointing device. It has proven to be
very accurate and is dead nuts right every time. Another benefit is the
auto compensation for the varying length of the bits.



David August 17th 05 12:40 AM

mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net wrote:

I noticed that some drill presses come equipped with laser guides. Is
this something that you can buy as an attachment to most drill presses?

Jack

don't waste your money. bring the bit down to the work and you'll know
where it's gonna drill...

Dave

Jay Pique August 17th 05 04:34 AM

Yes. Craftsman makes one. It's item number 24042 at Sears.com.

JP
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Just the fax, ma'am.


[email protected] August 17th 05 04:59 AM

Most of those are inherently a waste of money unless you ALWAYS use
the exact same length of drill bit in all the bits you have/use. If
the length differs, then you gotta re-adjust/re-calibrate the laser

There ARE laser alinement devices for around $60 that chuck into the
drill press and give you fairly accurate indication of where on the
workpiece the drill will go, but those need to be chucked up every
time you want to drill a hole, and then once aligned you unchuck the
laster and chuck up the drill bit. Not real convenient nor will it
speed up your drilling, BUT it WILL increase the accuracy of the
drilling

John

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:39:01 -0600, "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"
"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote:

I noticed that some drill presses come equipped with laser guides. Is
this something that you can buy as an attachment to most drill presses?

Jack


Swingman August 17th 05 12:03 PM

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote
in message

I noticed that some drill presses come equipped with laser guides. Is
this something that you can buy as an attachment to most drill presses?


Laser guides for drill presses?? jeeezus. I suppose laser guides included
with a prescription for Viagra is next?

Just think, no more fumbling around in the dark.

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ROYNEU August 17th 05 12:11 PM

Good grief Swingman, what is wrong with you. Might might be newer then
your's but it is heat seeking. Maybe your's need updating!

Roy


Swingman August 17th 05 12:21 PM

"ROYNEU" wrote in message
Good grief Swingman, what is wrong with you. Might might be newer then
your's but it is heat seeking. Maybe your's need updating!


ROTFL ...

Nope ...more likely the size of the pointing device. ;)

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Last update: 8/07/05



Jay Pique August 17th 05 02:12 PM


wrote:
Most of those are inherently a waste of money unless you ALWAYS use
the exact same length of drill bit in all the bits you have/use. If
the length differs, then you gotta re-adjust/re-calibrate the laser


I believe that a drill press laser guide could be quite cost effective
in certain situations/applications. I've never used one, so I don't
know how difficult it is to recalibrate. (Also, unless you bottom out
your bits you might want to readjust the laser each time you put a bit
in the chuck.

There ARE laser alinement devices for around $60 that chuck into the
drill press and give you fairly accurate indication of where on the
workpiece the drill will go, but those need to be chucked up every
time you want to drill a hole, and then once aligned you unchuck the
laster and chuck up the drill bit. Not real convenient nor will it
speed up your drilling, BUT it WILL increase the accuracy of the
drilling


Wow. I can't imagine many situations where that would be of use in a
woodworking shop. Perhaps for large forstner bits?

JP


John

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:39:01 -0600, "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"
"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote:

I noticed that some drill presses come equipped with laser guides. Is
this something that you can buy as an attachment to most drill presses?

Jack



mac davis August 17th 05 04:56 PM

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:39:01 -0600, "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"
"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote:

I noticed that some drill presses come equipped with laser guides. Is
this something that you can buy as an attachment to most drill presses?

Jack


I've only seen one laser pointer on a DP, and it was kind of clever....
I expected a red dot where the hole would be drilled.. like "gee, I wonder where
the bit will hit the wood"...
What it actually did was throw out 2 lines at 90 degrees, like one of those
laser picture hangers, so you could line up with other holes, I guess..
Since I own 2 modern tools, a pencil and straight edge, I haven't run out and
bought a laser for the DP..


mac

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mac davis August 17th 05 04:57 PM

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 06:03:36 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote
in message

I noticed that some drill presses come equipped with laser guides. Is
this something that you can buy as an attachment to most drill presses?


Laser guides for drill presses?? jeeezus. I suppose laser guides included
with a prescription for Viagra is next?

Just think, no more fumbling around in the dark.


It might be more effective on your chin... *g*


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net August 17th 05 06:38 PM

Well, I know that it's a fairly redundant and unnecessary thing to have,
but I figured that if I were doing a lot of drilling, it might make
things just a 'bit' easier to not have to lower the drill down each time
to line it up. Given the amused responses, it sounds like it's not
worth the money. Of course, I can always retrofit a guide on later if I
decide it would help.

Thanks!

David wrote:
mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net wrote:

I noticed that some drill presses come equipped with laser guides. Is
this something that you can buy as an attachment to most drill presses?

Jack

don't waste your money. bring the bit down to the work and you'll know
where it's gonna drill...

Dave



Daniel H August 17th 05 06:48 PM

Most of those are inherently a waste of money unless you ALWAYS use
the exact same length of drill bit in all the bits you have/use. If
the length differs, then you gotta re-adjust/re-calibrate the laser


Do these laser things project from one point or two?

If I were designing a laser marker I'd project two lines from two
points behind the bit, one on each side, to intersect in a line - that
would mark the correct spot regardless of table height or bit length.


Daniel H August 17th 05 06:54 PM

oops: project two planes from two points behind the bit, to intersect
in a line at the spindle axle

or draw two lines to intersect at an X on the workpiece


vfrost August 17th 05 09:14 PM

This is something that is far more cool than actually a necessity. If your
press actually came with it would be the only reason to have one. Other
than that it's just a very highly polished whistle.
"Swingman" wrote in message
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"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"
wrote
in message

I noticed that some drill presses come equipped with laser guides. Is
this something that you can buy as an attachment to most drill presses?


Laser guides for drill presses?? jeeezus. I suppose laser guides included
with a prescription for Viagra is next?

Just think, no more fumbling around in the dark.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 8/07/05





Leon August 17th 05 10:18 PM


"Swingman" wrote in message
...
"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"
wrote
in message

I noticed that some drill presses come equipped with laser guides. Is
this something that you can buy as an attachment to most drill presses?


Laser guides for drill presses?? jeeezus. I suppose laser guides included
with a prescription for Viagra is next?

Just think, no more fumbling around in the dark.



I think I am going to invent the laser guided pencil.



G.E.R.R.Y. August 17th 05 11:59 PM

In article ,
Swingman wrote:

no more fumbling around in the dark.


But that's how you find an OLD man in the dark, just feel around, it
won't be hard.

Gerry

John Martin August 18th 05 02:28 AM


mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net wrote:
Well, I know that it's a fairly redundant and unnecessary thing to have,
but I figured that if I were doing a lot of drilling, it might make
things just a 'bit' easier to not have to lower the drill down each time
to line it up. Given the amused responses, it sounds like it's not
worth the money. Of course, I can always retrofit a guide on later if I
decide it would help.

Thanks!


With most drill presses I've seen, you not only lower the bit each time
to line it up, but you then lower the bit further each time to drill
the hole. Pretty hard to drill the hole without lowering the bit,
unless maybe you're holding the wood in your hands and raising it up to
the drill. But maybe I'm missing something.

John Martin


Dan Major August 18th 05 04:07 AM

HA! Puny Wood dorkers! My LASER has a DRILL PRESS attached!! ZOW!

'Zippy the 'dorker'

woodworker88 August 18th 05 04:38 AM

It might be very useful if you do nearly all your drilling with bits
that don't have a center spur to guide the location of the hole. I
find that when I use a hole saw, it is very difficult to determine the
exact location, even with a pilot bit, mainly b/c the bit is under the
hole saw.


Upscale August 18th 05 05:23 AM

"woodworker88" wrote in message
It might be very useful if you do nearly all your drilling with bits
that don't have a center spur to guide the location of the hole. I
find that when I use a hole saw, it is very difficult to determine the
exact location, even with a pilot bit, mainly b/c the bit is under the
hole saw.


When I'm drilling with a holesaw, I lower the bit until it barely indents
the wood. Then I raise it up to see how it's lined up. Depending on that
information you readjust or don't. I can't for the life of me see where the
few seconds required to do this type of alignment justifies the frivolous
cost of a laser pointer.

I guess if you've got the money, then hey, it's your money. But me, I'd just
as soon invest it in something more important, like beer. :)



Jerry S. August 18th 05 09:12 PM


"Upscale" wrote in message
...
"woodworker88" wrote in message
It might be very useful if you do nearly all your drilling with bits
that don't have a center spur to guide the location of the hole. I
find that when I use a hole saw, it is very difficult to determine the
exact location, even with a pilot bit, mainly b/c the bit is under the
hole saw.


When I'm drilling with a holesaw, I lower the bit until it barely indents
the wood. Then I raise it up to see how it's lined up. Depending on that
information you readjust or don't. I can't for the life of me see where
the
few seconds required to do this type of alignment justifies the frivolous
cost of a laser pointer.

I guess if you've got the money, then hey, it's your money. But me, I'd
just
as soon invest it in something more important, like beer. :)



My drill press table can move side to side -- it doesn't move on a geared
track. The laser would be handy to line up the table when I'm moving it
(unless I'm missing an easier way).



mac davis August 19th 05 05:12 PM

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:12:09 -0400, "Jerry S." wrote:


"Upscale" wrote in message
...
"woodworker88" wrote in message
It might be very useful if you do nearly all your drilling with bits
that don't have a center spur to guide the location of the hole. I
find that when I use a hole saw, it is very difficult to determine the
exact location, even with a pilot bit, mainly b/c the bit is under the
hole saw.


When I'm drilling with a holesaw, I lower the bit until it barely indents
the wood. Then I raise it up to see how it's lined up. Depending on that
information you readjust or don't. I can't for the life of me see where
the
few seconds required to do this type of alignment justifies the frivolous
cost of a laser pointer.

I guess if you've got the money, then hey, it's your money. But me, I'd
just
as soon invest it in something more important, like beer. :)



My drill press table can move side to side -- it doesn't move on a geared
track. The laser would be handy to line up the table when I'm moving it
(unless I'm missing an easier way).

sure... use a sharpie to mark an X or "bulls eye on the table and line up the
bit to the mark..

My table (shopsmith) moves front-to-back and has an insert in the middle for
drilling/routing.. pretty easy to line THAT up.. lol


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

Edwin Pawlowski August 20th 05 04:24 AM



When I'm drilling with a holesaw, I lower the bit until it barely
indents
the wood. Then I raise it up to see how it's lined up. Depending on that
information you readjust or don't. I can't for the life of me see where
the
few seconds required to do this type of alignment justifies the
frivolous
cost of a laser pointer.



Good point, but will it still work with a large diameter hole saw mounted?



Dave Mundt August 22nd 05 02:22 AM

Greetings and Salutations...

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:39:01 -0600, "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"
"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote:

I noticed that some drill presses come equipped with laser guides. Is
this something that you can buy as an attachment to most drill presses?

Jack

Seems like a cute gadget to me...but not all that useful
unless one is doing production, and in THAT case, there should be
jigs to do the work.
Actually, I don't want one until I can line up the spot,
then, punch a button and have a neat hole vaporized in the
material.
Regards
Dave Mundt


Upscale August 22nd 05 02:30 AM

"Dave Mundt" wrote in message
Actually, I don't want one until I can line up the spot,
then, punch a button and have a neat hole vaporized in the
material.


You can already buy one of those. It's called a 22-250 rifle.




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