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Jay Pique July 26th 05 02:36 AM

"Marine Grade" plywood
 
So my dad wants me to make a couple of replacement bumpers for his boat
trailer. Basically they are pieces of plywood covered in outdoor
carpet. He's insisting that they be made from "marine grade plywood",
in spite of my suspicion that he has no idea what "marine grade" even
means or if the originals were even made therefrom. (from it?)

IAE, I'm tempted to use good old pressure treated ply but for the fact
that I've heard the new stuff corodes metal screws and this gets bolted
to metal. Any thoughts?

Thanks,
JP


Tom Watson July 26th 05 02:49 AM

On 25 Jul 2005 18:36:47 -0700, "Jay Pique"
wrote:

So my dad wants me to make a couple of replacement bumpers for his boat
trailer. Basically they are pieces of plywood covered in outdoor
carpet. He's insisting that they be made from "marine grade plywood",
in spite of my suspicion that he has no idea what "marine grade" even
means or if the originals were even made therefrom. (from it?)

IAE, I'm tempted to use good old pressure treated ply but for the fact
that I've heard the new stuff corodes metal screws and this gets bolted
to metal. Any thoughts?

Thanks,


True "Marine Grade Plywood" is made from the Pine Trees that surround
Parris Island, South Carolina; is tough as nails, needs no finish
beyond its natural resistance to outside influence, and will stand on
edge, as though by magic, whenever someone says, "Goodnight, Chesty."

Actually, the above is all bull**** and MGP is really a grade of ply
that has no voids in the ply and is bonded by an adhesive that will
resist delamination according to the ASTME spec. that applies to its
specific use.

Don't use the PT.

It ain't the real deal.


Semper Fi.




Tom Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ (website)

Patriarch July 26th 05 03:03 AM

"Jay Pique" wrote in news:1122341807.260251.82180
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

IAE, I'm tempted to use good old pressure treated ply but for the fact
that I've heard the new stuff corodes metal screws and this gets bolted
to metal. Any thoughts?


When doing things for my father, I often will ask him why he wants it done
that way. In the absence of overwhelming reason NOT to, I tend to accede
to his wishes.

He put up with me during my extended smartass period. Still does.

Patriarch

Lew Hodgett July 26th 05 04:11 AM

Tom Watson wrote:

True "Marine Grade Plywood" is made from the Pine Trees that surround
Parris Island, South Carolina; is tough as nails, needs no finish
beyond its natural resistance to outside influence, and will stand on
edge, as though by magic, whenever someone says, "Goodnight, Chesty."

Actually, the above is all bull**** .........


Maybe so, but I like it.

As far as the actual application is concerned, use 3/4" CDX plywood.

Laminate as many thicknesses as required using epoxy.

When the piece is the correct size, coat all exposed edges with 3 coats
of epoxy allowing 24 hours between coats after filling any voids with
microballoon thickened epoxy fairing compound.

Attach the carpet with stainless steel screws or monel staples.

Attach with S/S bolts.

Have fun.

Lew

John McCoy July 26th 05 06:31 PM

"Jay Pique" wrote in news:1122341807.260251.82180
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

So my dad wants me to make a couple of replacement bumpers for his boat
trailer. Basically they are pieces of plywood covered in outdoor
carpet. He's insisting that they be made from "marine grade plywood",
in spite of my suspicion that he has no idea what "marine grade" even
means or if the originals were even made therefrom. (from it?)


"Marine grade" is one of those terms which the marketing weasels
have made essentially meaningless. About all you can be certain
about with "marine grade" is that it's made with waterproof glue
(which means it's equivalent to any exterior grade ply). Marine
_should_ mean it's made with more, thinner plys, and it has no
interior voids, but the stuff you get from Home Depot isn't made
that way. If you really want marine quality ply, you have to look
for BS1088 rated plywood.

For your boat trailer, any exterior grade ply should be fine. It's
not a structural application, you don't need the extra strength
that a true marine ply would provide. If your dad is worried about
rot, coat them with epoxy - you'd have to do that with any ply,
marine or not, to get a long life out of it.

John

Ron Magen July 26th 05 09:31 PM

JP,
It sounds to me that you mean - 'bunks' not bumpers. The long 'planks'
covered with a 'carpet' that support the boat hull.

If that is indeed the case . . . go ahead & use PT 2x4's. This is the stuff
I use to replace rotted or weakened {from rusted bolts, etc.}ones. I've even
made 'auxiliary bunks' from scratch with the stuff. Use all Stainless Steel
hardware & fasteners. A bit more in cost, but they will last practically
forever, and the bunks will last longer as well . . . especially if it is a
'Salt Water boat'.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
{PS - PT comes in 3/4 ply. Heavy as hell and not exactly cheap . . . but
will do the job. Or just use the cheapest EXTERIOR ply you can find. I've
used a full sheet as the 'deck' on my utility trailer for about 5 years . .
.. just looks dirty and no delamination.}

"Jay Pique" wrote in message
ups.com...
So my dad wants me to make a couple of replacement bumpers for his boat
trailer. Basically they are pieces of plywood covered in outdoor
carpet. He's insisting that they be made from "marine grade plywood",
in spite of my suspicion that he has no idea what "marine grade" even
means or if the originals were even made therefrom. (from it?)

IAE, I'm tempted to use good old pressure treated ply but for the fact
that I've heard the new stuff corodes metal screws and this gets bolted
to metal. Any thoughts?

Thanks,
JP




Dhakala July 27th 05 01:40 AM



Jay Pique wrote:
So my dad wants me to make a couple of replacement bumpers for his boat
trailer. Basically they are pieces of plywood covered in outdoor
carpet. He's insisting that they be made from "marine grade plywood",
in spite of my suspicion that he has no idea what "marine grade" even
means or if the originals were even made therefrom. (from it?)

IAE, I'm tempted to use good old pressure treated ply but for the fact
that I've heard the new stuff corodes metal screws and this gets bolted
to metal. Any thoughts?


What would you do if Dad was a paying customer?


Patrick Fischer July 27th 05 04:06 PM

Lew has it right. Someday you might have to replace the carpet on the bunks
but the structure won't rot or de-laminate.

Patrick Fischer
Olalla WA

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
k.net...
Tom Watson wrote:

True "Marine Grade Plywood" is made from the Pine Trees that surround
Parris Island, South Carolina; is tough as nails, needs no finish
beyond its natural resistance to outside influence, and will stand on
edge, as though by magic, whenever someone says, "Goodnight, Chesty."

Actually, the above is all bull**** .........


Maybe so, but I like it.

As far as the actual application is concerned, use 3/4" CDX plywood.

Laminate as many thicknesses as required using epoxy.

When the piece is the correct size, coat all exposed edges with 3 coats of
epoxy allowing 24 hours between coats after filling any voids with
microballoon thickened epoxy fairing compound.

Attach the carpet with stainless steel screws or monel staples.

Attach with S/S bolts.

Have fun.

Lew





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