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This is an announcement.
There is a new woodworking newsgroup: fam.woodworking in the new, family- friendly fam.* usenet news hierarchy. If you're interested in this group, please email a request to your usenet administrator and ask them to carry the fam.* hierarchy. Thank you. -- Susan Welchel Administration Team for fam.* news hierarchy http://www.family-usenet.com |
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Susan Welchel wrote:
This is an announcement. There is a new woodworking newsgroup: fam.woodworking in the new, family- friendly fam.* usenet news hierarchy. If you're interested in this group, please email a request to your usenet administrator and ask them to carry the fam.* hierarchy. Thank you. announcement: No. Dave |
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![]() "Susan Welchel" wrote in message news:1122042065.0c346415003fdb45db447cc819ae83e6@b ubbanews... This is an announcement. There is a new woodworking newsgroup: fam.woodworking in the new, family- friendly fam.* usenet news hierarchy. If you're interested in this group, please email a request to your usenet administrator and ask them to carry the fam.* hierarchy. Thank you. -- Susan Welchel Administration Team for fam.* news hierarchy http://www.family-usenet.com Why do I feel all creepy when I read this? Who are these super net nanny folks who think we need an alternative to the wreck? Must be too much intelligence and real discussion to suit them. And this all ages-family crap?? How does this apply to woodworking? Am I suppose to show my three year old neice how to play with table saws and routers? Talking about power tools with small children?? This sound far more dangerous than any moronic line of logic these folks could muster up. |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:31:01 -0400, Susan Welchel wrote:
This is an announcement. There is a new woodworking newsgroup: fam.woodworking in the new, family- friendly fam.* usenet news hierarchy. If you're interested in this group, please email a request to your usenet administrator and ask them to carry the fam.* hierarchy. I _am_ my usenet administrator. Based on your track record, I won't be bothering. Thank you. And goodbye. |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:43:39 -0400, Lee Michaels wrote:
And this all ages-family crap?? How does this apply to woodworking? Am I suppose to show my three year old neice how to play with table saws and routers? Talking about power tools with small children?? This sound far more dangerous than any moronic line of logic these folks could muster up. And they think the trolls won't specifically seek them out. Sadly, that will without a doubt be the result of all this. We _did_ try to tell them. |
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![]() "Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... "Susan Welchel" wrote in message news:1122042065.0c346415003fdb45db447cc819ae83e6@b ubbanews... This is an announcement. There is a new woodworking newsgroup: fam.woodworking in the new, family- friendly fam.* usenet news hierarchy. If you're interested in this group, please email a request to your usenet administrator and ask them to carry the fam.* hierarchy. Thank you. -- Susan Welchel Administration Team for fam.* news hierarchy http://www.family-usenet.com Why do I feel all creepy when I read this? Who are these super net nanny folks who think we need an alternative to the wreck? Must be too much intelligence and real discussion to suit them. And this all ages-family crap?? How does this apply to woodworking? Am I suppose to show my three year old neice how to play with table saws and routers? Talking about power tools with small children?? This sound far more dangerous than any moronic line of logic these folks could muster up. Oooow. He said "crap". I'm taking my circular saw-wielding two-year-old over to the new family-friendly newsgroup. |
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Oh Great! Here we go again.
The last time someone tried to start a wreck alternative it turned into a world-wide range war. Hang on! RonB |
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Susan Welchel wrote:
If you're interested in this group, please email a request to your usenet administrator and ask them to carry the fam.* hierarchy. I'm sure they would get right on that. |
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![]() Susan Welchel wrote: This is an announcement. There is a new woodworking newsgroup: fam.woodworking in the new, family- friendly fam.* usenet news hierarchy. If you're interested in this group, please email a request to your usenet administrator and ask them to carry the fam.* hierarchy. Thank you. -- Susan Welchel Administration Team for fam.* news hierarchy http://www.family-usenet.com cool. I've been a little shy about using words like **** on rec.woodworking because my friends hang around here. but now I don't have to be so reserved... I'm happy to hear your news that there's a newsgroup just for using the word **** in a woodworking context. thank you so much, susan... |
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![]() "bridger" wrote in Susan Welchel wrote: This is an announcement. There is a new woodworking newsgroup: fam.woodworking in the new, family- friendly fam.* usenet news hierarchy. If you're interested in this group, please email a request to your usenet administrator and ask them to carry the fam.* hierarchy. Thank you. -- Susan Welchel Administration Team for fam.* news hierarchy http://www.family-usenet.com cool. I've been a little shy about using words like **** on rec.woodworking because my friends hang around here. but now I don't have to be so reserved... I'm happy to hear your news that there's a newsgroup just for using the word **** in a woodworking context. thank you so much, susan... Well, if you limit your knowledge sources to only folks who talk nice, you don't learn very much. Which seems to be part of Susan's merry band of usenet censors agenda. So, in effect, this is an attempt to "dumb down" woodworking discusions. |
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![]() Why all the hostitility to this announcement? Is there some history here that I don't know about? If there's an audience for a moderated group, it will make it, otherwise, it will fail. Susan Welchel wrote: This is an announcement. |
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RonB wrote:
Oh Great! Here we go again. The last time someone tried to start a wreck alternative it turned into a world-wide range war. Hang on! Yup, but think back, it's the SAME people again. Dave in Fairfax -- reply-to doesn't work use: daveldr at att dot net American Association of Woodturners http://www.woodturner.org Capital Area Woodturners http://www.capwoodturners.org/ PATINA http://www.patinatools.org |
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![]() bf wrote: Why all the hostitility to this announcement? Is there some history here that I don't know about? If there's an audience for a moderated group, it will make it, otherwise, it will fail. do a google search for vito kuhn. there is a lot of history, none of it nice. |
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On 22 Jul 2005 11:57:37 -0700, "bf" wrote:
Why all the hostitility to this announcement? Is there some history here that I don't know about? If there's an audience for a moderated group, it will make it, otherwise, it will fail. I was thinking along similar lines. How could the new group have any impact on this group? As far as I'm concerned, I'll extend my best wishes for success in her endeavor and drop in on both groups to contribute and/or learn. Whatever happened to 'live and let live'? gregg |
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gregg wrote:
I was thinking along similar lines. How could the new group have any impact on this group? As far as I'm concerned, I'll extend my best wishes for success in her endeavor and drop in on both groups to contribute and/or learn. Whatever happened to 'live and let live'? You definitely need to DAGS on her name as well as Vito Kuhn. Their interest is in splitting the rec, not joining. They tried having their own group formed and lost due to fraud in the voting process. If you read some of their posts, you'll detect the holier than thou odor. Oh hell, DAGS and all will be made clear. Dave in Fairfax -- reply-to doesn't work use: daveldr at att dot net American Association of Woodturners http://www.woodturner.org Capital Area Woodturners http://www.capwoodturners.org/ PATINA http://www.patinatools.org |
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Susan Welchel wrote:
There is a new woodworking newsgroup: fam.woodworking in the new, family- friendly fam.* usenet news hierarchy. If you're interested in this group, please email a request to your usenet administrator and ask them to carry the fam.* hierarchy. Thank you. Thank you but no. I prefer to socialize with adults. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN VE |
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On 22 Jul 2005 11:57:37 -0700, bf wrote:
Why all the hostitility to this announcement? Is there some history here that I don't know about? Yup. Tons of it. Susan and - what's his name - Leo or Leon or something - wandered in here, pronounced us unfit, and blundered through several iterations of telling us what was good for us, except that they never came here to make their case, they just tried to come up with groups to save us from ourselves. In the process, forged emails, massive vote fraud, and continued absence of building support here ensued. Whazzizname actually has a place on the net.kooks hall of shame as a result of those, and his subsequent, actions. |
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Could you also announce to the new group that this group exists also?
"Susan Welchel" wrote in message news:1122042065.0c346415003fdb45db447cc819ae83e6@b ubbanews... This is an announcement. There is a new woodworking newsgroup: fam.woodworking in the new, family- friendly fam.* usenet news hierarchy. If you're interested in this group, please email a request to your usenet administrator and ask them to carry the fam.* hierarchy. Thank you. -- Susan Welchel Administration Team for fam.* news hierarchy http://www.family-usenet.com |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:55:36 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
wrote: Well, if you limit your knowledge sources to only folks who talk nice, you don't learn very much. Limiting it to the minimal propagation of a bogus new top level hierarchy is even more limiting. You can of course create any usenet group or hierarchy you want, but if you don't play by the big boys' rules, then it won't propagate past your own server. |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:55:37 GMT, "Leon"
wrote: Could you also announce to the new group that this group exists also? Don't forget alt.kooks too, because that's where all the crossposts will be coming from. I'd like to read fam.circle or whatever it's called, but I don't think I'd like the torrent of foul language it will be. And it will be. |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:31:01 -0400, Susan Welchel
wrote: This is an announcement. There is a new woodworking newsgroup: fam.woodworking in the new, family- friendly fam.* usenet news hierarchy. If you're interested in this group, please email a request to your usenet administrator and ask them to carry the fam.* hierarchy. Thank you. Fine. Then go there, and stay there. |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:12:19 GMT, gregg wrote:
On 22 Jul 2005 11:57:37 -0700, "bf" wrote: Why all the hostitility to this announcement? Is there some history here that I don't know about? If there's an audience for a moderated group, it will make it, otherwise, it will fail. I was thinking along similar lines. How could the new group have any impact on this group? As far as I'm concerned, I'll extend my best wishes for success in her endeavor and drop in on both groups to contribute and/or learn. Whatever happened to 'live and let live'? They could make a million of them, and it would be fine- except for the fact that there is an announcement every couple of months or so from this twit and her buddy Vito reminding us all that the Wreck is a filthy cesspool of naughty words and terrible vices. My experience has been otherwise- very few groups related to any subjects I have any interest in are nearly as clean or high-minded as this one, so I don't take kindly to her raving. YMMV. |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:31:01 -0400, Susan Welchel wrote:
This is an announcement. There is a new woodworking newsgroup: fam.woodworking in the new, family- friendly fam.* usenet news hierarchy. If you're interested in this group, please email a request to your usenet administrator and ask them to carry the fam.* hierarchy. My dearest, darlingest Suzie-Q; I am distraught (distraught!) that my current news provider does not yet carry the fam.* hierarchy. Can you please provide a list of the providers who are carrying fam.*? Is there a web to news gateway for fam.* yet? Is Google on board? Please, please let me know how to access this bountiful feast of knowledge! I grow faint, my head spins, and my hands tremble at the thought of being denied this fabulous resource. -- XOXOXO, Joe Wells |
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On Fri 22 Jul 2005 10:31:01a, Susan Welchel susanwelchel@family-
usenet.com wrote in news:1122042065.0c346415003fdb45db447cc819ae83e6 @bubbanews: Susan Welchel Administration Team for fam.* news hierarchy http://www.family-usenet.com Guess I'll have to have a chat with my news server. Can't seem to find anything at all with the fam. prefix, even after loading new groups and getting a brand new complete listing. Drat. And me here with a family and everything. 'Course, the kid's all grown up and moved away and all we got now is a couple cats and a dog, but still. Now I can't do any family woodworking. |
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Why all the hostitility to this announcement? Is there some history
here that I don't know about? If there's an audience for a moderated group, it will make it, otherwise, it will fail. If this is the same group that tried it about a year ago they are not friendly - they can be vicious. Several of occasional Wreck'ers fell victim to having counterfeited flaming, vulgar and insulting posts and emails sent to other members in their names. My wife and grandkids got to read some of this crap. That campaign probably caused some of the more casual Wreck posters to drop out. |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:31:01 -0400, in rec.woodworking, Susan Welchel
wrote: This is an announcement. There is a new woodworking newsgroup: fam.woodworking in the new, family- friendly fam.* usenet news hierarchy. If you're interested in this group, please email a request to your usenet administrator and ask them to carry the fam.* hierarchy. Thank you. For you brand of "Family" oriented censorship, no thanks. Every User has a delete key and the power to decide what they will or won't read. -- Ak'toh'di |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:02:01 GMT, in rec.woodworking, Dave in Fairfax
wrote: RonB wrote: Oh Great! Here we go again. The last time someone tried to start a wreck alternative it turned into a world-wide range war. Hang on! Yup, but think back, it's the SAME people again. That's right... Lord, save me from people that work in what they think is your name. Have Delete key, Will travel -- Ak'toh'di |
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:05:04 +0100, in rec.woodworking, Andy Dingley
wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:55:37 GMT, "Leon" wrote: Could you also announce to the new group that this group exists also? Don't forget alt.kooks too, because that's where all the crossposts will be coming from. that's alt.usenet.kooks I'd like to read fam.circle or whatever it's called, but I don't think I'd like the torrent of foul language it will be. And it will be. No fooling... -- Ak'toh'di |
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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:36:45 GMT, in rec.woodworking, "Chadwick Stone©"
wrote: X-No-Archive: YES Bob Officer has offered into testimony On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:05:04 +0100, in rec.woodworking, Andy Dingley wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:55:37 GMT, "Leon" wrote: Could you also announce to the new group that this group exists also? Don't forget alt.kooks too, because that's where all the crossposts will be coming from. that's alt.usenet.kooks I'd like to read fam.circle or whatever it's called, but I don't think I'd like the torrent of foul language it will be. And it will be. No fooling... Have any of the major service providers created fam.usenet.kooks, yet? Good Day to you Chad... Google has the group set up and I think Octonews? 'Ratz said Supernews had it set up. I wrote a series of questions... and I am waiting for Frito to answer them. Just to start things off right and keep this on topic... Do you ever work your wood in the morning? -- Ak'toh'di |
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 19:28:14 -0700, Bob Officer
got double secret probation because: On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:05:04 +0100, in rec.woodworking, Andy Dingley wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:55:37 GMT, "Leon" wrote: Could you also announce to the new group that this group exists also? Don't forget alt.kooks too, because that's where all the crossposts will be coming from. that's alt.usenet.kooks I'd like to read fam.circle or whatever it's called, but I don't think I'd like the torrent of foul language it will be. And it will be. No fooling... Why do the lyrics to the Ramones - We're a Happy Family come to mind: "We're A Happy Family" We're a happy family We're a happy family We're a happy family Me mom and daddy Sitting here in Queens Eating refried beans We're in all the magazines Gulpin' down thorazine We ain't got no friends Our troubles never end No Christmas cards to send Daddy likes men Daddy's telling lies Baby's eating flies Mommy's on pills Baby's got the chills I'm friends with the President I'm friends with the Pope We're all making a fortune Selling Daddy's dope -- I see you're playing stupid again, looks like you are winning |
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smallfoot wrote:
In article 1122042065.0c346415003fdb45db447cc819ae83e6@bubba news, says... This is an announcement. There is a new woodworking newsgroup: fam.woodworking in the new, family- friendly fam.* usenet news hierarchy. If you're interested in this group, please email a request to your usenet administrator and ask them to carry the fam.* hierarchy. Thank you. -- Susan Welchel Administration Team for fam.* news hierarchy http://www.family-usenet.com Get a load of that charter. It's a goddamn nanny newsgroup. Worse yet, Susie and Vito are the nannies. Will they permit discussion of projects other than liturgical furnishing, crosses, altars and the like? Never had a dog in the Vito Kuhn/UsenetKook fight but reading the posts dumped on us here at the wreck I think I'd rather check the sharpness of my saw blades with my tongue than sign on with either side of that group. |
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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:36:45 GMT, "Chadwick Stone©"
got double secret probation because: X-No-Archive: YES Bob Officer has offered into testimony On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:05:04 +0100, in rec.woodworking, Andy Dingley wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:55:37 GMT, "Leon" wrote: Could you also announce to the new group that this group exists also? Don't forget alt.kooks too, because that's where all the crossposts will be coming from. that's alt.usenet.kooks I'd like to read fam.circle or whatever it's called, but I don't think I'd like the torrent of foul language it will be. And it will be. No fooling... Have any of the major service providers created fam.usenet.kooks, yet? That would be fam.* -- I see you're playing stupid again, looks like you are winning |
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X-No-Archive: YES
Bob Officer has offered into testimony On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:36:45 GMT, in rec.woodworking, "Chadwick Stone©" wrote: X-No-Archive: YES Bob Officer has offered into testimony On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:05:04 +0100, in rec.woodworking, Andy Dingley wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:55:37 GMT, "Leon" wrote: Could you also announce to the new group that this group exists also? Don't forget alt.kooks too, because that's where all the crossposts will be coming from. that's alt.usenet.kooks I'd like to read fam.circle or whatever it's called, but I don't think I'd like the torrent of foul language it will be. And it will be. No fooling... Have any of the major service providers created fam.usenet.kooks, yet? Good Day to you Chad... Google has the group set up and I think Octonews? 'Ratz said Supernews had it set up. I wrote a series of questions... and I am waiting for Frito to answer them. Just to start things off right and keep this on topic... Do you ever work your wood in the morning? Only when the wife won't work it for me ![]() -- Skepticult® Member# 581-00504-208 ChadwickStone at Gmail dot com Usenet's most helpful netizen Hammer of Thor, March 2005 |
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 19:55:20 -0700, Bob Officer
got double secret probation because: On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:36:45 GMT, in rec.woodworking, "Chadwick Stone©" wrote: X-No-Archive: YES Bob Officer has offered into testimony On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:05:04 +0100, in rec.woodworking, Andy Dingley wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:55:37 GMT, "Leon" wrote: Could you also announce to the new group that this group exists also? Don't forget alt.kooks too, because that's where all the crossposts will be coming from. that's alt.usenet.kooks I'd like to read fam.circle or whatever it's called, but I don't think I'd like the torrent of foul language it will be. And it will be. No fooling... Have any of the major service providers created fam.usenet.kooks, yet? Good Day to you Chad... Google has the group set up and I think Octonews? 'Ratz said Supernews had it set up. I wrote a series of questions... and I am waiting for Frito to answer them. Just to start things off right and keep this on topic... Do you ever work your wood in the morning? Sometimes, although I allow my GF all the opportunity I can provide to work my wood. Even in the shop she can work my wood. -- I see you're playing stupid again, looks like you are winning |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:31:01 -0400, Susan Welchel wrote:
This is an announcement. There is a new woodworking newsgroup: fam.woodworking in the new, family- friendly fam.* usenet news hierarchy. If you're interested in this group, please email a request to your usenet administrator and ask them to carry the fam.* hierarchy. My sweet, lovable Suzie-Q; Can you please reconsile the following statements from the fam.woodworking charter (currently posted at http://charters.family-usenet.com): "The purpose of the unmoderated newsgroup fam.woodworking"... and "Administrators of the fam.* hierarchy reserve the right to cancel any post to any group in the fam.* hierarchy if they feel that the post does not adhere to these guidelines." Please, please don't tell me that you've setup a stealth moderated group! Because you wouldn't lie to us, right? I'm certain that you'll give us a complete and satisfactory explanation about fam.woodworking's moderation status. Because, as a Christian, I know that you wouldn't want to mislead anyone. -- Thanks in advance for clearing this up, XOXOXOXO -Joe Wells |
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On Sunday 24 July 2005, Chadwick Stone© wrote in fam.woodworking:
X-No-Archive: YES Bob Officer has offered into testimony On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:05:04 +0100, in rec.woodworking, Andy Dingley wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:55:37 GMT, "Leon" wrote: Could you also announce to the new group that this group exists also? Don't forget alt.kooks too, because that's where all the crossposts will be coming from. that's alt.usenet.kooks I'd like to read fam.circle or whatever it's called, but I don't think I'd like the torrent of foul language it will be. And it will be. No fooling... Have any of the major service providers created fam.usenet.kooks, yet? Duplicates fam.admin.announce. PJR :-) -- alt.usenet.kooks award-winners and FAQ: http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/ [To reply by email, remove "NOSPAM".] |
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On Sunday 24 July 2005, Bob Officer wrote in fam.woodworking:
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:36:45 GMT, in rec.woodworking, "Chadwick Stone©" wrote: X-No-Archive: YES Bob Officer has offered into testimony On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:05:04 +0100, in rec.woodworking, Andy Dingley wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:55:37 GMT, "Leon" wrote: Could you also announce to the new group that this group exists also? Don't forget alt.kooks too, because that's where all the crossposts will be coming from. that's alt.usenet.kooks I'd like to read fam.circle or whatever it's called, but I don't think I'd like the torrent of foul language it will be. And it will be. No fooling... Have any of the major service providers created fam.usenet.kooks, yet? Good Day to you Chad... Google has the group set up and I think Octonews? 'Ratz said Supernews had it set up. I wrote a series of questions... and I am waiting for Frito to answer them. Just to start things off right and keep this on topic... Do you ever work your wood in the morning? It's good to see so many fine on-topic discussions in this excellent new group. However, the answer to your question might depend on the hardness of the wood. HTH. PJR :-) -- alt.usenet.kooks award-winners and FAQ: http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/ [To reply by email, remove "NOSPAM".] |
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"Chadwick Stone©" wrote in news:O2EEe.602359
: X-No-Archive: YES Bob Officer has offered into testimony On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:36:45 GMT, in rec.woodworking, "Chadwick Stone©" wrote: X-No-Archive: YES Bob Officer has offered into testimony On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:05:04 +0100, in rec.woodworking, Andy Dingley wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:55:37 GMT, "Leon" wrote: Could you also announce to the new group that this group exists also? Don't forget alt.kooks too, because that's where all the crossposts will be coming from. that's alt.usenet.kooks I'd like to read fam.circle or whatever it's called, but I don't think I'd like the torrent of foul language it will be. And it will be. No fooling... Have any of the major service providers created fam.usenet.kooks, yet? Good Day to you Chad... Google has the group set up and I think Octonews? 'Ratz said Supernews had it set up. I wrote a series of questions... and I am waiting for Frito to answer them. Just to start things off right and keep this on topic... Do you ever work your wood in the morning? Only when the wife won't work it for me ![]() I wish someone wood let me know if I wood be allowed to poast in the wood group. I wood rilly, rilly, rilly appreciate it, yes I wood. Is it OK to discuss Woody Woodpecker and the need for a sealer coat to avoid splinters during mating season? I wood also like to know if Frito's head is on topic in the wood group. If you wood let me know, pleace? -- Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*, alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Winner of the 8/2000 & 2/2003 HL&S award. Hail Petitmorte! Colonel of the Fanatic Legion. FL# 555-PLNTY Motto: ABUNDANCE!. Charter Member - Digital Brownshirts and Library Gestapo. "I have defined it 100 times and lost my account at AOL for doing so" and "I have lost no accounts for spamming." - Edmo trying to have it both ways. |
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