workshop loss
 

There was no photo on the web so I scanned and cropped the one in the paper
and posted it on ABPW.

A cause for pause when undertaking tasks in the shop...

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07/17/2005
Workshop blaze damages Ulster home


TOWN OF ULSTER - A fire that started in a workshop on the side of a
house on Glenerie Boulevard Saturday afternoon did substantial damage to the
rest of the home.

The fire started as Kenneth Schermerhorn, the homeowner, was stripping
paint from old furniture, according to Ulster Hose No. 5 assistant chief
Paul Masten. He said some molten paint dripped into a cardboard box,
igniting the blaze at about 3:15 p.m.

It was a fast fire, according to Masten. "I live right nearby, and
there were flames 40 feet in the air when I arrived on the scene," he said.
There were no injuries to firefighters or residents, he said, and there were
no pets in the house.

Masten said the workshop seemed to be a total loss, and there was
substantial smoke, water and heat damage to the main structure. There were
about 40 firefighters on the scene, and they attacked the fire from the
interior. "We knocked it down in about ten minutes," he said. There was a
separate garage on the property that was unaffected by the fire.

There is a new fire hydrant system in the area where the fire
occurred, Masten said, so water was not a problem. Masten said his
department was on the scene until around 5:45. Glasco fire department had
their FAST team at the fire, and East Kingston and Port Ewen were on
standby.

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 15:47:41 GMT, the opaque "John Grossbohlin"
clearly wrote:

There was no photo on the web so I scanned and cropped the one in the paper
and posted it on ABPW.

A cause for pause when undertaking tasks in the shop...

http://www.zwire.com/site/index.cfm?... AG=461&rfi=9

07/17/2005
Workshop blaze damages Ulster home


TOWN OF ULSTER - A fire that started in a workshop on the side of a
house on Glenerie Boulevard Saturday afternoon did substantial damage to the
rest of the home.

The fire started as Kenneth Schermerhorn, the homeowner, was stripping
paint from old furniture, according to Ulster Hose No. 5 assistant chief
Paul Masten. He said some molten paint dripped into a cardboard box,
igniting the blaze at about 3:15 p.m.

Well, if the paint was "molten", they should have arrested ol' Ken for
arson. Properly used, a heat gun used to strip paint won't heat the
paint enough to make too much smoke, let alone cause hardened paint to
LIQUIFY! His fire was self-inflicted, da foo.

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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:27:09 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

Properly used, a heat gun used to strip paint won't heat the
paint enough to make too much smoke, let alone cause hardened paint to
LIQUIFY!

Of course it can liquify - it depends on how old the paint was, and what
it was made from.

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:28:37 +0100, the opaque Andy Dingley
clearly wrote:

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:27:09 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

Properly used, a heat gun used to strip paint won't heat the
paint enough to make too much smoke, let alone cause hardened paint to
LIQUIFY!

Of course it can liquify - it depends on how old the paint was, and what
it was made from.

Semantics: Can't vs. shouldn't. Improperly used, a heat gun will set
just about anything on fire.

What types of paint were you thinking about when you wrote that, Andy?
I've used a heat gun (1000°F+) on all sorts of paint and none has
liquified yet. Both oil-based and latex paints here generally go from
hard to soft to flaming, with no liquid state that I've noticed. I
practiced on both oil and latex the day I got the gun, learning the
smoke point and how to stay below it.

Are some of your Brit paints are different?


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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
Both oil-based and latex paints here generally go from
hard to soft to flaming, with no liquid state that I've noticed. I
practiced on both oil and latex the day I got the gun, learning the
smoke point and how to stay below it.

Are some of your Brit paints are different?

Maybe it was lead paint and the lead melted ;)

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:44:26 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

What types of paint were you thinking about when you wrote that, Andy?

No idea what it's made out of, but it's dark coloured internal woodwork
paint of around 1900, as commonly found in most of the houses I've ever
lived in. You go near this stuff with any source of heat (gas or
electric) and one moment it's soft and scrapeable, the next it's runny
and staining into the timber. If you run a scraper over it when it's
runny you get a permanent smear into the timber and you'll never shift
it without sanding the whole surface off. Dreadful stuff to remove - one
of the few things I take off and have tank stripped.

I imagine it's linseed and probably lead.

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:13:53 +0100, the opaque Andy Dingley
clearly wrote:

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:44:26 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

What types of paint were you thinking about when you wrote that, Andy?

No idea what it's made out of, but it's dark coloured internal woodwork
paint of around 1900, as commonly found in most of the houses I've ever
lived in. You go near this stuff with any source of heat (gas or
electric) and one moment it's soft and scrapeable, the next it's runny
and staining into the timber. If you run a scraper over it when it's
runny you get a permanent smear into the timber and you'll never shift
it without sanding the whole surface off. Dreadful stuff to remove - one
of the few things I take off and have tank stripped.

I imagine it's linseed and probably lead.

Ah, the truly dangerous type. I have never seen anything with that
much lead in it, at least not so far. My oldest house was built in
1938.

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