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Swingman
 
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Default Irony ... but Happy Birthday anyhow.

Just hung my 62 year old butt off a 24 foot extension ladder to replace my
old flag pole holder on the front balcony, and put up a shiny, brand new
"Old Glory" for the weekend.

Guess where ALL components, (perhaps with the exception of McFeely's screws)
were made ...?

In any event ... a Happy 1st and 4th to all you Canadian and other
"Americanos Del norte" wReckers ... and be careful with your feng shui
around that BBQ pit.

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On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:17:45 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:

Just hung my 62 year old butt off a 24 foot extension ladder to replace my
old flag pole holder on the front balcony, and put up a shiny, brand new
"Old Glory" for the weekend.

Guess where ALL components, (perhaps with the exception of McFeely's screws)
were made ...?


Ironic, ain't it? The last flag I bought came from Vietnam. Not sure
I'd have bought it if I'd known that in advance....

In any event ... a Happy 1st and 4th to all you Canadian and other
"Americanos Del norte" wReckers ... and be careful with your feng shui
around that BBQ pit.


Remember, Never barbecue in the nude!

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"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com
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"Tim Douglass" wrote in message

Ironic, ain't it? The last flag I bought came from Vietnam. Not sure
I'd have bought it if I'd known that in advance....


Consider the alternative. A major, major portion of the lifestyles that
Americans (and we Canadians) enjoy is as a result of being able to buy
cheaper goods from other countries. The problem comes when the scales are
tipped too much to one side.


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Tom Watson
 
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On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:17:45 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:

Just hung my 62 year old butt off a 24 foot extension ladder to replace my
old flag pole holder on the front balcony, and put up a shiny, brand new
"Old Glory" for the weekend.

Guess where ALL components, (perhaps with the exception of McFeely's screws)
were made ...?

In any event ... a Happy 1st and 4th to all you Canadian and other
"Americanos Del norte" wReckers ... and be careful with your feng shui
around that BBQ pit.



Just got done reading, "The World Is Flat", by Mr. Friedman.

It's a damned interesting explication and elucidation of the complex
issues that underpin your hardware problem.

I recommend it highly.

I guess I have a simplistic turn of mind, because I believe that a
country that doesn't make anything - isn't anything.

The way that we are being directed by our political and business
leaders, into an era of global interaction which positions the USA as
a global manager, information resource provider, and research
resource, at the expense of producing hard goods, is truly frightening
to me.

It is particularly interesting to me that the progeny of workingmen
have turned on their progenitors, and their purpose, to such a degree.

Perhaps I am not learned enough to understand the implications.

If we make planes and tanks that depend on offshore, and potentially
adversarial entities for production, are we not in a disadvantaged
position, at a certain level? If my Korean car needs a part two years
from now, should I worry about the possible consequences of an
evolving political situation?

There is a theory of economics which claims that globalization will
result in a world without wars, because going to war would be bad for
business.

I really ain't buying into that.

The current Politico-Business religion of America is Global Economics
- these theorists seeks to extend that predilection to the rest of the
world. It is, in my small opinion, a misplaced understanding.

We still suffer through religious wars that are at least the equal of
the Middle Ages, in terms of human cost and ferocity.

I guess we will start to really pay attention when the best seller
writers begin putting out books about China in the same way that they
used to put them out about our old Cold War nemesis, the USSR.

Anyways, a happy Fourth to you, Swing.

May the thinking that engendered it always be strong enough in the
populace to defeat the interests of those that would defeat it.




Tom Watson - WoodDorker
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loutent
 
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In article , Tom Watson
wrote:

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:17:45 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:

Just hung my 62 year old butt off a 24 foot extension ladder to replace my
old flag pole holder on the front balcony, and put up a shiny, brand new
"Old Glory" for the weekend.

Guess where ALL components, (perhaps with the exception of McFeely's screws)
were made ...?

In any event ... a Happy 1st and 4th to all you Canadian and other
"Americanos Del norte" wReckers ... and be careful with your feng shui
around that BBQ pit.



Just got done reading, "The World Is Flat", by Mr. Friedman.

It's a damned interesting explication and elucidation of the complex
issues that underpin your hardware problem.

I recommend it highly.

I guess I have a simplistic turn of mind, because I believe that a
country that doesn't make anything - isn't anything.

The way that we are being directed by our political and business
leaders, into an era of global interaction which positions the USA as
a global manager, information resource provider, and research
resource, at the expense of producing hard goods, is truly frightening
to me.

It is particularly interesting to me that the progeny of workingmen
have turned on their progenitors, and their purpose, to such a degree.

Perhaps I am not learned enough to understand the implications.

If we make planes and tanks that depend on offshore, and potentially
adversarial entities for production, are we not in a disadvantaged
position, at a certain level? If my Korean car needs a part two years
from now, should I worry about the possible consequences of an
evolving political situation?

There is a theory of economics which claims that globalization will
result in a world without wars, because going to war would be bad for
business.

I really ain't buying into that.

The current Politico-Business religion of America is Global Economics
- these theorists seeks to extend that predilection to the rest of the
world. It is, in my small opinion, a misplaced understanding.

We still suffer through religious wars that are at least the equal of
the Middle Ages, in terms of human cost and ferocity.

I guess we will start to really pay attention when the best seller
writers begin putting out books about China in the same way that they
used to put them out about our old Cold War nemesis, the USSR.

Anyways, a happy Fourth to you, Swing.

May the thinking that engendered it always be strong enough in the
populace to defeat the interests of those that would defeat it.


Hi Tom,

Happy 4th and happy woodworking!

Think TO is coming back?

Lou


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In article ,
Dave wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:17:45 -0500, Swingman wrote:



Guess where ALL components, (perhaps with the exception of McFeely's screws)
were made ...?



For true irony, it would have to be England


Hmmm..... I thought "iron-y" came from the island of Fe-ji

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Tim Douglass wrote:

SNIP



Remember, Never barbecue in the nude!

--

Isn't that similar to the Christmas tradition of roasting chesnuts by an
open fire?

;-0
Glen
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On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:16:50 -0400, Tom Watson
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Just got done reading, "The World Is Flat", by Mr. Friedman.

It's a damned interesting explication and elucidation of the complex
issues that underpin your hardware problem.

I recommend it highly.


Hemmed and hawed a bit over that one in the bookstore today, then
passed it up- think I might try and find it in the library, though.

I guess I have a simplistic turn of mind, because I believe that a
country that doesn't make anything - isn't anything.


Agreed.

Perhaps I am not learned enough to understand the implications.


Or perhaps a healthy lack of "sophisitication" is superior to living
in a mindless fog!

If we make planes and tanks that depend on offshore, and potentially
adversarial entities for production, are we not in a disadvantaged
position, at a certain level? If my Korean car needs a part two years
from now, should I worry about the possible consequences of an
evolving political situation?


Glad to see I'm not the only one left that wonders about that one.

There is a theory of economics which claims that globalization will
result in a world without wars, because going to war would be bad for
business.

I really ain't buying into that.


Bingo. Hasn't happened yet, and it isn't going to. People aren't
wired to hold hands and sing in harmony. A dominant predator doesn't
evolve by being nice to everyone.

Happy 4th to all. Spend a couple of minutes thinking about what it
meant to those guys who were in that first contental congress, and
what motivated them to do what they did. By all means, support the
military as well, but they're really not what it's about.
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"Swingman" wrote in message
...
Just hung my 62 year old butt off a 24 foot extension ladder to replace
my
old flag pole holder on the front balcony, and put up a shiny, brand new
"Old Glory" for the weekend.

Guess where ALL components, (perhaps with the exception of McFeely's
screws)
were made ...?

In any event ... a Happy 1st and 4th to all you Canadian and other
"Americanos Del norte" wReckers ... and be careful with your feng shui
around that BBQ pit.


This 4th will be my 25th wedding anniversary. I am giving my wife "the
quilter" a Long Arm machine.


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Larry Jaques
 
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On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 12:07:00 GMT, the opaque Glen
spake:

Tim Douglass wrote:

SNIP



Remember, Never barbecue in the nude!

--

Isn't that similar to the Christmas tradition of roasting chesnuts by an
open fire?


CHESTNUTS? Well, no wonder my girlfriend left me that year. I was
always singing "Chipmunks roasting on an open fire".


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If the screws were square drive (US), then remember that they were
invented By PL Robertson, right here in CANADA!! His patent idea
didn't work and that is why they are not common in the US, only here in
Canada.

Lars

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 12:07:00 GMT, the opaque Glen
spake:

Tim Douglass wrote:

SNIP



Remember, Never barbecue in the nude!

--

Isn't that similar to the Christmas tradition of roasting chesnuts by an
open fire?


CHESTNUTS? Well, no wonder my girlfriend left me that year. I was
always singing "Chipmunks roasting on an open fire".


---
Annoy a politician: Be trustworthy, faithful, and honest!
---
http://www.diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development


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In article .com,
"Highspeed" wrote:

His patent idea
didn't work


When the bit is 45 degrees off rotation to the screw, the bit
won't/can't enter the hole. That will jam automated screw feeds. The
real reason why Detroit rejected the square drive.
For ultra-fast feed rates a regular Philips will not be perfect
either... hence the torx (really two square-drives at 45-degrees) and
posidrives.
Just in case anybody gives a ****.
Happy 1st and 4th.
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"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
"Highspeed" wrote:

His patent idea
didn't work


When the bit is 45 degrees off rotation to the screw, the bit
won't/can't enter the hole. That will jam automated screw feeds. The
real reason why Detroit rejected the square drive.


I had read that Roberson aproached Ford and Ford wanted it. Henry Ford also
wanted the license to make the square drive IIRC. Robertson did not agree.




For ultra-fast feed rates a regular Philips will not be perfect
either... hence the torx (really two square-drives at 45-degrees) and
posidrives.
Just in case anybody gives a ****.
Happy 1st and 4th.



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Bondhus makes off center ball end screwdrivers for square drive screws
and hex fasteners and maybe more than that. If memory serves about
15 or 25 off axis. Color coded four all four sizes.

On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 13:15:28 -0400, Robatoy
wrote:

In article .com,
"Highspeed" wrote:

His patent idea
didn't work


When the bit is 45 degrees off rotation to the screw, the bit
won't/can't enter the hole. That will jam automated screw feeds. The
real reason why Detroit rejected the square drive.
For ultra-fast feed rates a regular Philips will not be perfect
either... hence the torx (really two square-drives at 45-degrees) and
posidrives.
Just in case anybody gives a ****.
Happy 1st and 4th.




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On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:17:45 -0500, Swingman wrote:



Guess where ALL components, (perhaps with the exception of McFeely's screws)
were made ...?



For true irony, it would have to be England
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Glen says...

Isn't that similar to the Christmas tradition of roasting chesnuts by an
open fire?

;-0
Glen


Just an on-topic aside: you won't be roasting chestnuts anymore. The
American chestnut species is extinct for all practical purposes as a
tree, and now only survives as a shrub that lives only until the blight
kills it. It is one of the greatest environmental catastrophes in our
history, but most people don't even know about it.
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"Hax Planx" wrote in message
.net...
Just an on-topic aside: you won't be roasting chestnuts anymore. The
American chestnut species is extinct for all practical purposes as a
tree, and now only survives as a shrub that lives only until the blight
kills it. It is one of the greatest environmental catastrophes in our
history, but most people don't even know about it.


Get in line. http://ipm.ppws.vt.edu/griffin/accf.html Down but not out.


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"Leon" wrote in message
news

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
"Highspeed" wrote:

His patent idea
didn't work


When the bit is 45 degrees off rotation to the screw, the bit
won't/can't enter the hole. That will jam automated screw feeds. The
real reason why Detroit rejected the square drive.


I had read that Roberson aproached Ford and Ford wanted it. Henry Ford

also
wanted the license to make the square drive IIRC. Robertson did not

agree.


Go to an old car show in the northern states or Canada. Some Fords, those
made in Canada, use Robertson screws.

Curious, eh?

Dave O'Heare
oheareATmagmaDOTca


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