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Which Baldor motor
I have a Sears 10" table saw that is about 15 years old and it has a
basic 1.5 hp Sears motor that I would like to upgrade. I like my saw because of the cast iron top, Beisemeyer fence, Forrest blade,and the upgraded belt and pulley setup. I am looking at either a 1.5 to 2.0 hp motor from Baldor and I wanted to find out if anyone has made the change and which motor did they go to. I have 220 available in my garage so I can go that route also. What frame is standard, I thought it was a 56 but there are various 56 frames so I am not sure, and also does the Baldor really improve the overall power of the saw, any help will be greatly appreciated. Mike Francis |
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wrote in message What frame is standard, I thought it was a 56 but there are various 56 frames so I am not sure, and also does the Baldor really improve the overall power of the saw, any help will be greatly appreciated. Mike Francis The 56 frame is probably compatible with any other 56 frame for mounting pattern and shaft size. Baldor probably has specs and dimensions available. McMaster Carr gives a lot of motor information on their web page. Grainger has a 1.5 hp motor listed as a table saw motor sold under their Dayton name. Is you present motor still working? I'm not so sure a new motor is going to be a big improvement. |
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My current motor is working but I am debating on getting a larger motor
for more power. I had looked at upgrading to a Grizzly 10" and it has a 3hp motor but I was not sure if I wanted to spend all that money or do some upgrades to mine. My friend has a Grizzly 10" and it has more power to it when I used his recently. Are you saying that to go from the Sears 1.5 to a Baldor 2.0 hp will not be any significant gains in over all power and ease of cutting wood, or should I look at a higher hp like a 3 before I will gain additional power? Thanks, Mike Francis |
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On 14 Jun 2005 04:37:56 -0700, "
wrote: My current motor is working but I am debating on getting a larger motor for more power. I had looked at upgrading to a Grizzly 10" and it has a 3hp motor but I was not sure if I wanted to spend all that money or do some upgrades to mine. My friend has a Grizzly 10" and it has more power to it when I used his recently. Are you saying that to go from the Sears 1.5 to a Baldor 2.0 hp will not be any significant gains in over all power and ease of cutting wood, or should I look at a higher hp like a 3 before I will gain additional power? Thanks, Mike Francis If your present motor will run on 220V I would try that first. My saw runs a ton better on 220 than it does on 110. |
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I will look but I do not think it will. If I find another motor that is
capable of 220 and the hp rating is 2hp or greater will the benefits of running it 220 and having more hp make a considerable difference? I build furniture on the side and it is not uncommon to cut 2" or thicker Oak and other woods and my saw seems to struggle at times. I changed the pulleys, belt and added the stabilizers and using a Forrest blade it cuts better but I still feel that another motor that runs easier and stronger would provide that additional boost. Thanks, Mike Francis |
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" wrote:
I will look but I do not think it will. If I find another motor that is capable of 220 and the hp rating is 2hp or greater will the benefits of running it 220 and having more hp make a considerable difference? I build furniture on the side and it is not uncommon to cut 2" or thicker Oak and other woods and my saw seems to struggle at times. I changed the pulleys, belt and added the stabilizers and using a Forrest blade it cuts better but I still feel that another motor that runs easier and stronger would provide that additional boost. Thanks, Mike Francis Probably, although unless you have more than a single drive belt you may have trouble transmitting all the torque under real load. What is the actual nameplate rating? Is it one of the famous Sears 1.5 peak hp ratings, per chance? If so, an honest 1.5 hp would undoubtedly be stouter. |
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It is a Sears 1.5 hp, and I am sure it is speaking of peak rating like
most of the other motors. What is the best way to understand what motor will develop a true 1.5 or 2.0 hp rating, I am sure their is a way to tell what is peak hp rating versus normal running operation hp? Also will a real 1.5 hp 220 volt run stronger than a 110 version? Mike |
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Baldor, Smaldor, a standard 56 frame motor is a 56 frame motor. I say that as a registered smart ass who successfully competed against Baldor selling motors for many years. Look for a cap start, TEFC, Class "B", service factor 1.0, 56 frame motor. A 1-1/2 HP, 1750 RPM machine wired for 240 VAC service will work quite well. Take a look at what Grainger has to offer. They have as good a product offering as anybody in the market place. Lew |
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wrote in message Are you saying that to go from the Sears 1.5 to a Baldor 2.0 hp will not be any significant gains in over all power and ease of cutting wood, or should I look at a higher hp like a 3 before I will gain additional power? Thanks, Mike Francis No that is not what I'm saying. In your original post you said you were going to replace it with a 1.5 or 2 hp motor. As you stated: " I am looking at either a 1.5 to 2.0 hp motor from Baldor and I wanted to find out if anyone has made the change and which motor did they go to." I will say that gong from a 1.5 to a 1.5 will gain you nothing. to go from 1.5 to 2 hp will gain power, but at 120V you may not have a capable breaker and wire. If you go to 220, that is a better deal. -- Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message ink.net... Look for a cap start, TEFC, Class "B", service factor 1.0, 56 frame motor. A 1-1/2 HP, 1750 RPM machine wired for 240 VAC service will work quite well. Wasn't he talking table saw? 3450 seems a better choice. Of course he could get a new pulley. |
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It appears that is the way I may have to go after doing some research,
I will look around here in the Dallas area and see if I can buy a cabinet saw for a reasonable price.Thanks! Mike Francis |
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" wrote:
It appears that is the way I may have to go after doing some research, I will look around here in the Dallas area and see if I can buy a cabinet saw for a reasonable price.Thanks! Mike Francis There's been a fellow on eBay in the Dallas area who obviously is dealing in used equipment. Been several "wish I were closer" auuctions...much Delta, Powematic, etc. |
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on 6/15/2005 4:03 PM Duane Bozarth said the following:
" wrote: It appears that is the way I may have to go after doing some research, I will look around here in the Dallas area and see if I can buy a cabinet saw for a reasonable price.Thanks! There's been a fellow on eBay in the Dallas area who obviously is dealing in used equipment. Been several "wish I were closer" auuctions...much Delta, Powematic, etc. Keep your eye on the local papers, you just never know. I'd been looking for a decent table saw for months and other than later model Craftsmans found them to be very scarce. A week ago, SWMBO, asked if I was still looking for a saw and pointed out one she spied in the local fishwrap before I'd had a chance to get it. I figured with an asking price of $375 it was either a potential gloat or somebody had lost their mind and was looking to make a profit on a used Sears or Ryobi. Turns out the guy had an old Jet (blue cabinet) JCS-10 with a 2hp 220volt motor, magnetic switch. Checked it out and found that the original fence was replaced with an Excalibur TT45. Missing the blade guard and splitter (which I'll have to replace) but otherwise in decent shape with not much apparent use. Top cleaned up nicely and found the belts a bit nasty (probably more from lack of use by the looks of it) so they were replaced. Former owner was moving and downsizing and so MAY have the missing blade guard and splitter somewhere. He said that if he didn't, he'd buy me a new one. Doubt he realized they sell for about $120 so if push comes to shove, I'll offer to split it with him. Hopefully, when all's said and one I'll have a nice cabinet saw for about $450.00. Does this qualify as a gloat? Even a minor one? Now I have to decide - in the midst of all that's being bantered back and forth about RAS what to do with my 34 year old (closest guess) Craftsman RAS which has been the centerpiece of my garage and, later, workshop. Between the real estate demands of the cabinet saw and the RAS, things are going to get tight. I've got a nice CSMS which will function quite nicely for 90% of my cross-cutting needs but, jeez guys, that RAS is like an old friend. How can I banish it? Done more than one could expect and did it rather well. Yeah, it's a pain to align but I've found over the years unless I have a jam while ripping (yep, do it all the time and never had a "shooter" and I still have all my digits)it stays put. All I ever needed to do was set it up properly and RTFM and adjust it for angles, etc. the same way each time. Now, only having used my father's old guard-less, splitter-less, 8" ancient (circa 1950) Craftsman table saw ages ago, I face using the new cabinet saw with the same trepidation that others assign to using the RAS. Maybe that's good. Familiarity and comfort contribute to accidents in the shop almost as much as stupidity. I was never familiar enough with the RAS to cut without the guards properly adjusted and probably never will be so that's 99% of the battle won. |
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:10:13 GMT, Unquestionably Confused
wrote: on 6/15/2005 4:03 PM Duane Bozarth said the following: " wrote: It appears that is the way I may have to go after doing some research, I will look around here in the Dallas area and see if I can buy a cabinet saw for a reasonable price.Thanks! There's been a fellow on eBay in the Dallas area who obviously is dealing in used equipment. Been several "wish I were closer" auuctions...much Delta, Powematic, etc. Keep your eye on the local papers, you just never know. I'd been looking for a decent table saw for months and other than later model Craftsmans found them to be very scarce. A week ago, SWMBO, asked if I was still looking for a saw and pointed out one she spied in the local fishwrap before I'd had a chance to get it. I figured with an asking price of $375 it was either a potential gloat or somebody had lost their mind and was looking to make a profit on a used Sears or Ryobi. Turns out the guy had an old Jet (blue cabinet) JCS-10 with a 2hp 220volt motor, magnetic switch. Checked it out and found that the original fence was replaced with an Excalibur TT45. Missing the blade guard and splitter (which I'll have to replace) but otherwise in decent shape with not much apparent use. Top cleaned up nicely and found the belts a bit nasty (probably more from lack of use by the looks of it) so they were replaced. Former owner was moving and downsizing and so MAY have the missing blade guard and splitter somewhere. He said that if he didn't, he'd buy me a new one. Doubt he realized they sell for about $120 so if push comes to shove, I'll offer to split it with him. Hopefully, when all's said and one I'll have a nice cabinet saw for about $450.00. Does this qualify as a gloat? Even a minor one? ==========snip snip snip =========== I have owned that exact same saw (JCS-10) for the last 15 years...ordered it direct from Jet in 1988 with a real Biesmeyer 52 in fence...and the optional Motor Cover..? why it was optional I have no clue...! New I paid $900.00 including delivery.. Honestly Jet called it a Cabinet Saw...but it really is not a true cabinet saw... that said after all these years I could care less...the saw works.. ! After many many hours of use it still works just fine... and has given me absolutely zero problems... To be honest I threw the guard/splitter in the trash as soon as I unpacked the saw... and ...went with an excalibur overhead guard...so I really do not think you are missing anything... Gloat..??? .Price was about right I guess...all I can say is that I would not sell mine for that amount...I am not nuts !... Bob Griffiths Now I have to decide - in the midst of all that's being bantered back and forth about RAS what to do with my 34 year old (closest guess) Craftsman RAS which has been the centerpiece of my garage and, later, workshop. Between the real estate demands of the cabinet saw and the RAS, things are going to get tight. I've got a nice CSMS which will function quite nicely for 90% of my cross-cutting needs but, jeez guys, that RAS is like an old friend. How can I banish it? Done more than one could expect and did it rather well. Yeah, it's a pain to align but I've found over the years unless I have a jam while ripping (yep, do it all the time and never had a "shooter" and I still have all my digits)it stays put. All I ever needed to do was set it up properly and RTFM and adjust it for angles, etc. the same way each time. Now, only having used my father's old guard-less, splitter-less, 8" ancient (circa 1950) Craftsman table saw ages ago, I face using the new cabinet saw with the same trepidation that others assign to using the RAS. Maybe that's good. Familiarity and comfort contribute to accidents in the shop almost as much as stupidity. I was never familiar enough with the RAS to cut without the guards properly adjusted and probably never will be so that's 99% of the battle won. |
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Ebay has 11 on the list at the moment running from
$100 to $1500. wrote: Check used machinery suppliers in your Yellow Pages. Sometimes you can get decent buys, for instance, if a place that deals with metalworking machinery has a table saw they don't want to bother with. |
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