Hi all,

Today was a great day here in the north-east for
retired woodworkers in the spring - a real rainy
dismal day where you could justify being in the shop
instead of outside in the garden transplanting, dividing
or just generally at SWMBO's beck and call.

"Yeah - it's a wash out honey - can't even do our 3+ mile
walk in this kind of weather" g.

10:00 AM: "I'll be down in the shop 'putzin' around' with the
entertainment center project."

"OK"

--------

I can really build boxes good. A month or so ago, I made a couple
of 44 (w) by 27 (h) x 26 (deep) cabinets out of oak ply -
no problem - couple of hours in the shop at the end of a day.

In the meantime, we are deciding how to arrange the shelving
in said boxes. Finally "we" agree that they should each have
a "half" shelf about 12" deep with a bottom support (since I have
about 1000+ LP's from the 70's on that I refuse to get rid of and
that I will rip to digital when I get time).

So there I am - starting at 10:AM - measuring, marking, testing,
re-testing - cutting, trimming, dado-ing (sp?). Routing a stopped
dado in opposte ends of a cabinet with a dado for a middle support
in said shelf and cabinet bottom.

6 Hours later - success - for 1 cabinet!

Jeez! And I have all the freakin' tools!

Is it just me? I am slow, so slow.... and Norm does so much
in 25 minutes...

I need support....

Lou

Loutent wrote:


Jeez! And I have all the freakin' tools!


Is it just me? I am slow, so slow.... and Norm does so much
in 25 minutes...


I need support....


Lou
Slow and steady wins the race. 'Cept I didn't know we were racing!
"Run, rabbit, run. Dig that hole, forget the sun." Need any more
support? Tom

loutent wrote:

6 Hours later - success - for 1 cabinet!

Jeez! And I have all the freakin' tools!

Is it just me? I am slow, so slow.... and Norm does so much
in 25 minutes...

I need support....

No, you just need to learn to stop and smell the poesys IMHO.

Who said you are on the clock?

You or somebody who signs the pay check.

HTH

The other "Lew"

Lew

loutent wrote in :

snip
So there I am - starting at 10:AM - measuring, marking, testing,
re-testing - cutting, trimming, dado-ing (sp?). Routing a stopped
dado in opposte ends of a cabinet with a dado for a middle support
in said shelf and cabinet bottom.

6 Hours later - success - for 1 cabinet!

Jeez! And I have all the freakin' tools!

Is it just me? I am slow, so slow.... and Norm does so much
in 25 minutes...

I need support....

Lou

It's the deciding that takes time. It's also what makes it yours, and
enjoyable.

Almost anyone can follow a set of plans. Or buy something at Walmart. And
a lot can get done with 'production assistants' helping.

I'd rather create. So would Norm, I think.

Count your many blessings...

Patriarch

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:47:33 -0400, loutent wrote:


Hi all,

Today was a great day here in the north-east for
retired woodworkers in the spring - a real rainy
dismal day where you could justify being in the shop
instead of outside in the garden transplanting, dividing
or just generally at SWMBO's beck and call.

"Yeah - it's a wash out honey - can't even do our 3+ mile
walk in this kind of weather" g.

10:00 AM: "I'll be down in the shop 'putzin' around' with the
entertainment center project."

"OK"

--------

I can really build boxes good. A month or so ago, I made a couple
of 44 (w) by 27 (h) x 26 (deep) cabinets out of oak ply -
no problem - couple of hours in the shop at the end of a day.

In the meantime, we are deciding how to arrange the shelving
in said boxes. Finally "we" agree that they should each have
a "half" shelf about 12" deep with a bottom support (since I have
about 1000+ LP's from the 70's on that I refuse to get rid of and
that I will rip to digital when I get time).

So there I am - starting at 10:AM - measuring, marking, testing,
re-testing - cutting, trimming, dado-ing (sp?). Routing a stopped
dado in opposte ends of a cabinet with a dado for a middle support
in said shelf and cabinet bottom.

6 Hours later - success - for 1 cabinet!

Jeez! And I have all the freakin' tools!

Is it just me? I am slow, so slow.... and Norm does so much
in 25 minutes...

I need support....

Lou

Nope -- things take longer in real life than in "Norm-life". Been
working on my entertainment center for the past 9 months (weekends and
holidays). Of course, it would be a lot farther along if I hadn't decided,
"hey I can add drawers on the bottom instead of shelves -- shouldn't take
too long to do 12 drawers." Then, "May as well try doing the drawers
dovetailed, that way I can be ready for the kitchen project". Then
proceeded to use up about 2 weeks of Christmas holiday getting the feel of
the Liegh jig -- still not satisfied with the results, but I had to finally
call a truce and decide when it was good enough.

Putting finish on the cabinets now -- I still have to build the grids for
glass for the top doors on the left and right side cabinets, but have
deferred that until I get the glass in a few weeks. Maybe, just maybe I
will be done in about 3 more months.




+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
A wheelbarrow! Why didn't you say we had a wheelbarrow; you should
have included that in our list of assets!
Westley -- Princess Bride
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Speaking as a person with some television production experience, I can
assure you that Nahm doesn't do it in one day--or even two. Watch for
changes of clothes, background inconsistencies, moved items;
these are usual giveaways some time lapse occurred between shots. TV
production is a slow and tedious process and a lot of editing makes his
presentation slick and seamless. He never makes a mistake. You're
probably the hare and he's the turtle! Glenn

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:47:33 -0400, loutent wrote:

I can really build boxes good. A month or so ago, I made a couple
of 44 (w) by 27 (h) x 26 (deep) cabinets out of oak ply -
no problem - couple of hours in the shop at the end of a day.

In the meantime, we are deciding how to arrange the shelving
in said boxes. Finally "we" agree that they should each have
a "half" shelf about 12" deep with a bottom support (since I have
about 1000+ LP's from the 70's on that I refuse to get rid of and
that I will rip to digital when I get time).

So there I am - starting at 10:AM - measuring, marking, testing,
re-testing - cutting, trimming, dado-ing (sp?). Routing a stopped
dado in opposte ends of a cabinet with a dado for a middle support
in said shelf and cabinet bottom.

6 Hours later - success - for 1 cabinet!

Jeez! And I have all the freakin' tools!

Is it just me? I am slow, so slow.... and Norm does so much
in 25 minutes...

I need support....

6 hours? I would probably need 6 months, so it sounds to me like you
are cooking along pretty fast.

--
"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

I don't know what your shop is like, but I don't really have one of those
gigantic boubles-sided 4-foot wide belt sanders that he can just feed an
entire tabletop into and have it come out looking like it's ready for the
finishing room within a matter of seconds.

I think Norm's speed is attributed to quite a few things:
1. He has very fast, accurate, and large machinery that makes jobs a lot
easier
2. He has jigs for just about anything you would ever want to make (I
couldn't even store all of those jigs)
3. He does have good skill
4. He pre-builds most of his projects "... and here's our version of the
antique cabinet"
5. I'm sure he gets help from the production crew
6. He has premium selection of lumber and tools (I just spent a good part of
the day just trying to figure out how I needed to cut a bunch of walnut
planks for all of the parts for my project so that the visible parts
wouldn't have holes from the rotted knots in the wood)
7. There is a lot of video editing and I'm sure a lot of mistakes (ever
notice how it always fits perfectly on the first try? Or is that really the
4th try, but the other 3 were editied out?)

Most of the projects I build take up anywhere from 40 to 90 hours. I
recently build a coffee table, a side table, and a TV table out of maple
with inlaid mahogany and custom rosettes. That took 90 hours. Now I'm
building a walnut dining room table (I gave up on the wenge, for those of
you who remember me asking about wenge). I estimate that it will take me
about 40-50 hours total to build this table. But one key thing to remember
is that this is hobby for me -- it doesn't pay the rent, so I can take my
time.

X_HOBBES


"loutent" wrote in message
...

Hi all,

Today was a great day here in the north-east for
retired woodworkers in the spring - a real rainy
dismal day where you could justify being in the shop
instead of outside in the garden transplanting, dividing
or just generally at SWMBO's beck and call.

"Yeah - it's a wash out honey - can't even do our 3+ mile
walk in this kind of weather" g.

10:00 AM: "I'll be down in the shop 'putzin' around' with the
entertainment center project."

"OK"

--------

I can really build boxes good. A month or so ago, I made a couple
of 44 (w) by 27 (h) x 26 (deep) cabinets out of oak ply -
no problem - couple of hours in the shop at the end of a day.

In the meantime, we are deciding how to arrange the shelving
in said boxes. Finally "we" agree that they should each have
a "half" shelf about 12" deep with a bottom support (since I have
about 1000+ LP's from the 70's on that I refuse to get rid of and
that I will rip to digital when I get time).

So there I am - starting at 10:AM - measuring, marking, testing,
re-testing - cutting, trimming, dado-ing (sp?). Routing a stopped
dado in opposte ends of a cabinet with a dado for a middle support
in said shelf and cabinet bottom.

6 Hours later - success - for 1 cabinet!

Jeez! And I have all the freakin' tools!

Is it just me? I am slow, so slow.... and Norm does so much
in 25 minutes...

I need support....

Lou

Greetings and Salutations....

On Sun, 1 May 2005 02:26:39 -0400, "X_HOBBES"
wrote:

I don't know what your shop is like, but I don't really have one of those
gigantic boubles-sided 4-foot wide belt sanders that he can just feed an
entire tabletop into and have it come out looking like it's ready for the
finishing room within a matter of seconds.

I think Norm's speed is attributed to quite a few things:
1. He has very fast, accurate, and large machinery that makes jobs a lot
easier
2. He has jigs for just about anything you would ever want to make (I
couldn't even store all of those jigs)
3. He does have good skill
4. He pre-builds most of his projects "... and here's our version of the
antique cabinet"

As mentioned elsewhere, he actually builds THREE copies of
the project.
1) The prototype, which deals with any glitches in the design
of the project. It also allows him to determine what jigs and
fixtures would help in the process.
2) Copy #1 - from which he builds and refines the jigs and
fixtures that actually DO work on the project.
3) Copy #2 - The version that is filmed as it is constructed
and goes on air.


5. I'm sure he gets help from the production crew

Apparently the only "help" he gets is cleanup. He does all
the layout, cutting and construction. There have been some amusing
moments over the years, when we get to see him running a full sheet
of 3/4" plywood through the tablesaw (for, I believe, a bookcase
project) and, struggling to get a Mission Style sofa together (a LOT
of stiles, and some heavy bits that need to be laid in place).


6. He has premium selection of lumber and tools (I just spent a good part of
the day just trying to figure out how I needed to cut a bunch of walnut
planks for all of the parts for my project so that the visible parts
wouldn't have holes from the rotted knots in the wood)
7. There is a lot of video editing and I'm sure a lot of mistakes (ever
notice how it always fits perfectly on the first try? Or is that really the
4th try, but the other 3 were editied out?)

There is a lot of "excess" project edited out. Quite a number
of shows have him working over several days on the finished project.
They let us see him cutting the FIRST one of a repeated part, then
skip over the rest. They probably DO cut out "oops", and recuts, but
not all mistakes. I recall when he tried building a rounded base,
wine cabinet, and, had to try at least three times to get the thin
cherry to curve around the frame without breaking. It was probably
the "worst" problems we saw though.
I will say that I have seen a number of times where the camera
has panned away from what looks to me like an obvious error in cutting
the stock, and, it is never mentioned.
Which, of course, makes sense. After all, NYW has VERY
limited amounts of airtime, and, Morash does not want to waste it
with proving to the world that Norm is human too.
Speaking of which, if we want to see the process, let me
remind y'all of the webcam page at the website, which includes
a taping schedule...
http://www.newyankee.com/yankeecam.php



Most of the projects I build take up anywhere from 40 to 90 hours. I
recently build a coffee table, a side table, and a TV table out of maple
with inlaid mahogany and custom rosettes. That took 90 hours. Now I'm
building a walnut dining room table (I gave up on the wenge, for those of
you who remember me asking about wenge). I estimate that it will take me
about 40-50 hours total to build this table. But one key thing to remember
is that this is hobby for me -- it doesn't pay the rent, so I can take my
time.

Hear, Hear! My shop time is more for balancing out the
stresses of modern life...it is not there to be a profit center.
If it were...it would not be a lot of fun, and, I would have to
drop a chunk of cash on machines to cut down the unit price of
the things I build.
In any case, it is really impossible for me, as an American,
to compete on a per hour cost with the many excellent woodworkers
in India, China, Malaysia, and other such countries. Until I
can figure out how to keep the truck in Diesel while making
$0.50/hour, that is just not going to happen.
Toss into that the simple fact that everyone works at a
different pace. I might be able to turn out a nicely dovetailed
joint in 20 minutes, where it would take someone else an hour (and
Taig Fried (sic) about 3 minutes...and they would look a LOT better,
too). Work at the pace that is comfortable for you...and don't
sweat over whether or not someone else can do it quicker. If
you get heat over it from the "SO", then, invite them out to
the shop and let THEM try it.
Regards
Dave Mundt

"Dave Mundt" wrote in message
I will say that I have seen a number of times where the camera
has panned away from what looks to me like an obvious error in cutting
the stock, and, it is never mentioned.

Not to criticise Norm's skill because I'm sure I'll never be in his league,
but once in awhile I see him do something really unsafe. I'm not talking
about stuff like cutting wood on the tablesaw without the guard because I
know it's been removed for photography purposes.

The one time he made a cut on the tablesaw that really made me cringe was
the time when he was constructing the four poster bed. He'd glued together
the strips of wood for the curved sections that connected the tops of the
four posts. He then took this curved piece and freehand, cut strips off it
with the tablesaw. Except for sections of this curved piece that
intermittently touched the tablesaw bed, the rest of it was held by him in
mid air as he fed it though. I was gritting my teeth as he did it.

I can really build boxes good. A month or so ago, I made a couple
of 44 (w) by 27 (h) x 26 (deep) cabinets out of oak ply -
no problem - couple of hours in the shop at the end of a day.

In the meantime, we are deciding how to arrange the shelving
in said boxes. Finally "we" agree that they should each have
a "half" shelf about 12" deep with a bottom support (since I have
about 1000+ LP's from the 70's on that I refuse to get rid of and
that I will rip to digital when I get time).

So there I am - starting at 10:AM - measuring, marking, testing,
re-testing - cutting, trimming, dado-ing (sp?). Routing a stopped
dado in opposte ends of a cabinet with a dado for a middle support
in said shelf and cabinet bottom.

6 Hours later - success - for 1 cabinet!

Jeez! And I have all the freakin' tools!

Is it just me? I am slow, so slow.... and Norm does so much
in 25 minutes...

You know, what you need is a good post-production crew to edit out all
of your excess time! Don't compare yourself to the television- they
fit a lot of work into 25 minutes because 25 minutes is what they've
got. Hell, sometimes I spend 25 minutes just looking for a tool I
need. Six hours to add the internal elements to a cabinet the right
way is a drop in the bucket. Sure, you could've done it in 15 minutes
with some L-brackets and a level, but it would have looked like junk-
and I'm sure that what you did came out looking great. The extra care
is almost always justifed, and FWIW, it doesn't sound like you're all
that slow to me.


Aut inveniam viam aut faciam

"loutent" wrote in message
...
So there I am - starting at 10:AM - measuring, marking, testing,
re-testing - cutting, trimming, dado-ing (sp?). Routing a stopped
dado in opposte ends of a cabinet with a dado for a middle support
in said shelf and cabinet bottom.

6 Hours later - success - for 1 cabinet!

Jeez! And I have all the freakin' tools!

Is it just me? I am slow, so slow.... and Norm does so much
in 25 minutes...

I need support....

Options are limited.

Yell at one of the large and lazy offspring,home from college for the
weekend? Turn your back and they're gone, sometimes while the glue's spread
and you're playing "Beat the Clock" with the clamps.

Call down the esteemed spouse? She's result-oriented, and requires a full
description of the eventual project, the pieces involved, and the effect it
might have on that corner of the living room before she'll "hold this while
I tighten this end."

If the kids are under thirteen or over 25, you've got a shop helper.

tom wrote:

Loutent wrote:


Jeez! And I have all the freakin' tools!


Is it just me? I am slow, so slow.... and Norm does so much
in 25 minutes...


I need support....

Remember, Norm gets to leave all his screwups, false starts, etc on the
editing-room floor.

Lou
Slow and steady wins the race. 'Cept I didn't know we were racing!
"Run, rabbit, run. Dig that hole, forget the sun." Need any more
support? Tom

--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

I think that I usually spend as much or more time figuring out how I am
going to make something, than I do actually making it. Then there is
always the "whoops" factor, and I can't ever seem to get a job done
without at least one whoops. The project, always seems to take way
longer than I expect, even on my production pieces. I was semi-pro
(made enough money to support my habbit, but not enough to quit the day
job) for 10 years, and have been pro for 2 years. I am getting faster,
and more importantly better. Most important is fun and satisfaction.
robo hippy

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:47:33 -0400, loutent wrote:

snip
Is it just me? I am slow, so slow.... and Norm does so much
in 25 minutes...

I need support....

Lou

right.. and the CSI guys get post mortem reports, DNA results, etc. in under an
hour, so they can solve the case..




mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

Ahh Lou,
If Norm was that fast, we'd have a new project aired every day vs. the 15 or
so per year. Don't get me wrong,
I can't possibly build 15 projects a year but of course it's a hobby for me
and this thing called work takes up most of my time...sigh.

Don't get discouraged! Hows that 1023SL working out for you anyway?
Cheers,
cc

In article ,
"J. Clarke" wrote:

[snip].

Remember, Norm gets to leave all his ????screwups????, false starts, etc
on the
editing-room floor.


Bite your tongue!

6 hours doesn't sound bad for that size job to me. It would take me at least
that long to do that and probably more.

I decided a long time ago that my time spent on a project in my shop doesn't
count as time usually does. "It's the journey rather than the destination
that I seek". I always try to do it as right as possible to satisfy my own
desires. When it's done, it's done! I seem to do great during the sawdust
part, but the finishing seems to drag on (not my favorite part). I usually
finish something when it starts getting in my way and I want the space.

I'm a recently retired engineer who spent most of my career designing and
building automated manufacturing machinery and controls. Recently I started
getting bored with my own home shop projects and decided that I needed to
find a new interest and "get involved" again. I volunteered my time and my
shop to build projects for a children's science museum that's located about
20 miles from me. They jumped at the chance to get me and so far things are
going great. They ask me to do something, and then pretty much leave it
totally up to me to design and build it my way. I can use their huge wood
shop or my own (usually use my own so I don't have to commute) and they
reimburse me for all of my expenses. I'm also providing technical training
in pneumatics, electronics, and automation to their personnel whenever they
need assistance. I usually set my own hours and schedules and they seem very
happy to get whatever help that I'm willing to provide. It's been a real
pleasure to be able to make projects of scientific interest and
entertainment for the children, and the adults who come to the museum. If
any of you "retired" guys out there want to make something in your shop to
help the children and get involved in your community I suggest that you find
one of these museums in your area and offer to help.
--
Charley




"loutent" wrote in message
...

Hi all,

Today was a great day here in the north-east for
retired woodworkers in the spring - a real rainy
dismal day where you could justify being in the shop
instead of outside in the garden transplanting, dividing
or just generally at SWMBO's beck and call.

"Yeah - it's a wash out honey - can't even do our 3+ mile
walk in this kind of weather" g.

10:00 AM: "I'll be down in the shop 'putzin' around' with the
entertainment center project."

"OK"

--------

I can really build boxes good. A month or so ago, I made a couple
of 44 (w) by 27 (h) x 26 (deep) cabinets out of oak ply -
no problem - couple of hours in the shop at the end of a day.

In the meantime, we are deciding how to arrange the shelving
in said boxes. Finally "we" agree that they should each have
a "half" shelf about 12" deep with a bottom support (since I have
about 1000+ LP's from the 70's on that I refuse to get rid of and
that I will rip to digital when I get time).

So there I am - starting at 10:AM - measuring, marking, testing,
re-testing - cutting, trimming, dado-ing (sp?). Routing a stopped
dado in opposte ends of a cabinet with a dado for a middle support
in said shelf and cabinet bottom.

6 Hours later - success - for 1 cabinet!

Jeez! And I have all the freakin' tools!

Is it just me? I am slow, so slow.... and Norm does so much
in 25 minutes...

I need support....

Lou

In article ,
says...
Nope -- things take longer in real life than in "Norm-life". Been
working on my entertainment center for the past 9 months (weekends and
holidays).

I'm building one now - 10' long and 6' high. Yes, it's in sections :-).
But I figure 9 months is about right. Especially that I'm of the age
where "my get up and go has got up and went."

But it's a hobby - the purpose of a hobby is to pleasurably spend time.

--
Homo sapiens is a goal, not a description

Hi cc,

1023SL greetings to you buddy - I'm having a great
time with my 500 lb baby - how about you? It just
purrs along with nary a quiver - have been making
jigs for it - panel cutter & crosscut sled so far, with
more to come.

Been working on adding a router table to the right
side - so far I drilled a couple of holes in the
fence and right wing (no political intent here!).
Trying to decide if I should just make my own insert
or cough up 50 bucks and get the 1/4 aluminum plate
from Rockler - still cogitating (sp?).

How'd that rusty wing work out for ya? Knowing
Grizzly, they made it right.

----------
To all,

As far as working slow, I sort of got a reprieve today.
About 2+ hours and I finished
my other cabinet - shelved and even stuck some
oak strips on the edging! Almost in "production" mode
now.

Seriously, a lot of time *IS* spent on setting stuff up,
changing bits & blades and just standing ther wondering
if there is anything that you didn't think of - before
you run that first dado.

My comment about Norm was in jest of course. Since
I have been watching/taping him since season "1", I realize that
he takes at least *twice* as long to make something
as what we see on TV. g.

Thanks all for your expertise & encouragement.

This is a great place (despite occassional "problems").

Layed back & enjoying the fresh-cut oak wafting about.....

Lou

In article , James \"Cubby\"
Culbertson wrote:

Ahh Lou,
If Norm was that fast, we'd have a new project aired every day vs. the 15 or
so per year. Don't get me wrong,
I can't possibly build 15 projects a year but of course it's a hobby for me
and this thing called work takes up most of my time...sigh.

Don't get discouraged! Hows that 1023SL working out for you anyway?
Cheers,
cc

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:47:33 -0400, loutent wrote:

6 Hours later - success - for 1 cabinet!

Jeez! And I have all the freakin' tools!

Is it just me? I am slow, so slow.... and Norm does so much
in 25 minutes...

Your only slow if the person paying you is waiting.
If that's not the case, take your time and have fun.
Your doing fine.

Mike O.

"loutent" wrote in message
...

Is it just me? I am slow, so slow.... and Norm does so much
in 25 minutes...

I work at two speeds: 1) not so slow and 2) slow as molasses

The only way to produce at speed #1 is to do thorough planning and layout.
If I "design on the fly", I make more mistakes and take longer. I'm getting
better and better at using a 3-D cad program which helps me eliminate many
many mistakes because I can "test fit" in the computer and find the problems
before cutting a single board.

Bob

Hiya Lou,
Well I'm sorry to say that it sounds like you've been putting your's to a
lot more work than I have mine! I've gotten tangled up in doing saltillo
floors in the house and haven't had so much as a minute to do anything in
the woodworking realm. .

I do plan to get some bookshelves built, a dresser, a couple of tables and
some chairs but until I get the tile down, the beast sits idle.

As for the wing, yup, they sent a new one immediately and didn't want the
old one. I think I'll use the old one in some fashion as a sharpening
station or something.

Glad to see you're getting your $$'s worth and it's working well. Can't
wait to put mine through the paces. I hope to be done with all the
saltillo stuff in a couple of weeks and then it's off to the lumber yard!
Cheers,
cc

"loutent" wrote in message
...
Hi cc,

1023SL greetings to you buddy - I'm having a great
time with my 500 lb baby - how about you? It just
purrs along with nary a quiver - have been making
jigs for it - panel cutter & crosscut sled so far, with
more to come.

Been working on adding a router table to the right
side - so far I drilled a couple of holes in the
fence and right wing (no political intent here!).
Trying to decide if I should just make my own insert
or cough up 50 bucks and get the 1/4 aluminum plate
from Rockler - still cogitating (sp?).

How'd that rusty wing work out for ya? Knowing
Grizzly, they made it right.

----------
To all,

As far as working slow, I sort of got a reprieve today.
About 2+ hours and I finished
my other cabinet - shelved and even stuck some
oak strips on the edging! Almost in "production" mode
now.

Seriously, a lot of time *IS* spent on setting stuff up,
changing bits & blades and just standing ther wondering
if there is anything that you didn't think of - before
you run that first dado.

My comment about Norm was in jest of course. Since
I have been watching/taping him since season "1", I realize that
he takes at least *twice* as long to make something
as what we see on TV. g.

Thanks all for your expertise & encouragement.

This is a great place (despite occassional "problems").

Layed back & enjoying the fresh-cut oak wafting about.....

Lou

In article , James \"Cubby\"
Culbertson wrote:

Ahh Lou,
If Norm was that fast, we'd have a new project aired every day vs. the 15
or
so per year. Don't get me wrong,
I can't possibly build 15 projects a year but of course it's a hobby for
me
and this thing called work takes up most of my time...sigh.

Don't get discouraged! Hows that 1023SL working out for you anyway?
Cheers,
cc

Two speeds of work that I heard about were fast and half-fast.

On Mon, 02 May 2005 02:26:47 GMT, "BillyBob"
wrote:

Is it just me? I am slow, so slow.... and Norm does so much
in 25 minutes...

I work at two speeds: 1) not so slow and 2) slow as molasses