I have an antique ice crusher that attaches to a wooden barrel like
bucket. It's like a miniture wine or whiskey barrel cut in half, the
problem is that when it dries out, it falls apart.

In my one attempt at a fix, I let it soak for over a week, long after
the wood was swelled and it was holding itself together with the steel
bands around the outside very tight. I let it dry for a day then sealed
the inside with parafin and becasue of all the moisture in the wood, I
used a water based polyurethane for the outside. (3 or 4 coats)

It still dried out and fell apart. Any ideas? Should I let it dry and
glue it? I'd actually like to use it if that makes any difference.

Thanks,
Tony

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:17:16 -0400, Tennessee Tony
wrote:

I have an antique ice crusher that attaches to a wooden barrel like
bucket. It's like a miniture wine or whiskey barrel cut in half, the
problem is that when it dries out, it falls apart.

In my one attempt at a fix, I let it soak for over a week, long after
the wood was swelled and it was holding itself together with the steel
bands around the outside very tight. I let it dry for a day then sealed
the inside with parafin and becasue of all the moisture in the wood, I
used a water based polyurethane for the outside. (3 or 4 coats)

It still dried out and fell apart. Any ideas? Should I let it dry and
glue it? I'd actually like to use it if that makes any difference.

Thanks,
Tony


get it good and dry and tighten the bands.

s wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:17:16 -0400, Tennessee Tony
wrote:


I have an antique ice crusher that attaches to a wooden barrel like
bucket. It's like a miniture wine or whiskey barrel cut in half, the
problem is that when it dries out, it falls apart.

In my one attempt at a fix, I let it soak for over a week, long after
the wood was swelled and it was holding itself together with the steel
bands around the outside very tight. I let it dry for a day then sealed
the inside with parafin and becasue of all the moisture in the wood, I
used a water based polyurethane for the outside. (3 or 4 coats)

It still dried out and fell apart. Any ideas? Should I let it dry and
glue it? I'd actually like to use it if that makes any difference.

Thanks,
Tony



get it good and dry and tighten the bands.

Then it would leak. But I guess if I do like you suggest, then give the
inside a good coat of melted parafin that would be good enough to hold
some melting ice. I'll keep after it and tighen the bands every day or
two as it dries out. I have a feeling the top will end up being too
large for the shrunken "barrel" and I may have to make some modifications.

Thanks,
Tony

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:39:58 -0400, Tennessee Tony
wrote:

Then it would leak.

OK expert, it's your bucket, you go fix it.

But round here we make barrels dry, then we fit the bands, then we get
them wet. We're not the ones complaining of leaks.

Andy Dingley wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:39:58 -0400, Tennessee Tony
wrote:


Then it would leak.


OK expert, it's your bucket, you go fix it.

But round here we make barrels dry, then we fit the bands, then we get
them wet. We're not the ones complaining of leaks.

Ah, a barrel expert! (with such a wonderful attitude :-)) What I need
is a bucket expert! If I let it dry and tighten the bands, the top ice
crusher part will not fit. The top of the bucket will be too small.

Any more idea's. (Snot nosed barrel experts need not reply)

Tony

In article , Tennessee Tony wrote:
Andy Dingley wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:39:58 -0400, Tennessee Tony
wrote:

Then it would leak.

OK expert, it's your bucket, you go fix it.

But round here we make barrels dry, then we fit the bands, then we get
them wet. We're not the ones complaining of leaks.

Ah, a barrel expert! (with such a wonderful attitude :-)) What I need
is a bucket expert! If I let it dry and tighten the bands, the top ice
crusher part will not fit. The top of the bucket will be too small.

Then you need a bigger bucket.

Any more idea's. (Snot nosed barrel experts need not reply)

Andy gave you good advice. Not his fault if you don't like it. But he's right:
barrels (or buckets) should be tight when dry. Getting them wet makes them
tighter, and eliminates leaks. If yours isn't at least reasonably close to
being tight when it's dry, then it needs repair.

Is it possible that what you have is not an ice crusher and bucket at all, but
perhaps a cider press and its basket? If that's the case, you won't *ever* get
it tight, because it isn't *supposed* to be. Can you post a picture of the
whole thing on ABPW (alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking) or on a personal web
space somewhere?

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

Tennessee Tony wrote:


Ah, a barrel expert! (with such a wonderful attitude :-)) What I need
is a bucket expert! If I let it dry and tighten the bands, the top ice
crusher part will not fit. The top of the bucket will be too small.

Any more idea's. (Snot nosed barrel experts need not reply)

Tony

Most of the wooden ice buckets that I've seen have a removable plastic
bucket inside. Did you loose yours?

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

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Tennessee Tony wrote:


Ah, a barrel expert! (with such a wonderful attitude :-)) What I
need is a bucket expert! If I let it dry and tighten the bands, the
top ice crusher part will not fit. The top of the bucket will be too
small.

Any more idea's. (Snot nosed barrel experts need not reply)

Tony


Most of the wooden ice buckets that I've seen have a removable plastic
bucket inside. Did you loose yours?

I would guess this never had one, it is fairly old. Also it seemed to
be coated with wax on the inside (before I gave it another coat). So
no, I don't think I lost the inside, however I can't say the same for my
marbles.

Tony

Tennessee Tony wrote:
OK expert, it's your bucket, you go fix it.

But round here we make barrels dry, then we fit the bands, then we get
them wet. We're not the ones complaining of leaks.


Ah, a barrel expert! (with such a wonderful attitude :-)) What I need
is a bucket expert! If I let it dry and tighten the bands, the top ice
crusher part will not fit. The top of the bucket will be too small.

Nonetheless, it was good advice. Look, it is pretty simple: Wood swells
when wet. If you hold (tightly) two (or more) pieces of wood togather
whilst they get wet, they will swell sufficiently to make water tight
seal (actually works for titanium on spy aircrafy wings too..). If they
don't start out tight, they will never swell enough to make a seal. So
your bucket is either the wrong one or made very badly in the first
place or the wood has shrunk enormous amounts.


Any more idea's. (Snot nosed barrel experts need not reply)

Otherwise, maybe line it with fiberglass and use resin like you would
for certain kinds of "wooden" sinks. You could also rebate the top so
the lid still fitted. But what you should do is get a proper bucket.

Tennessee Tony wrote:
s wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:17:16 -0400, Tennessee Tony
wrote:


I have an antique ice crusher that attaches to a wooden barrel like

bucket. It's like a miniture wine or whiskey barrel cut in half,
the
problem is that when it dries out, it falls apart.

In my one attempt at a fix, I let it soak for over a week, long
after
the wood was swelled and it was holding itself together with the
steel
bands around the outside very tight. I let it dry for a day then
sealed
the inside with parafin and becasue of all the moisture in the
wood, I
used a water based polyurethane for the outside. (3 or 4 coats)

It still dried out and fell apart. Any ideas? Should I let it dry
and
glue it? I'd actually like to use it if that makes any difference.

Thanks,
Tony



get it good and dry and tighten the bands.

Then it would leak.

Then keep it wet.

Or soak it a day or two befor use.

--

FF

Tennessee Tony wrote:
...
(Snot nosed barrel experts need not reply)


They are called coopers without regard to being snot nosed or not.

--

FF

(Though IF snot-nosed I daresay they may be called a few other things
as well.)