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The 11-12 foot breezeway from my back entry door to the garshop has
sported a tacked-on plastic paneled cover since we bought the house 20 years ago. Last summer's hail storm prompted me to tear it off last fall (bad timing going into hunting season). Formulated a building plan, did a few Sketchup drawings (mostly to calculate some dimensions) and started putting it all together (alone - ugh) in January. Tried not permitting it but our small, bedroom community "code enforcement officer" spotted the framing and paid me a visit. Re-did my drawings and waited out the plan approver. Now to take a couple of weeks off to rest - and heal. I'm getting too old to do this, especially the structural framing stuff alone. Dave in Houston |
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Nice tie in. Don't you love the inspectors. I deal with that always.
Being a Building Contractor I have to decide whether to bring in the County Office or go for it. sometimes in a rural area I can get away without a permit. I tell you, I build it stronger than the engineer too. Looks like you did a very nice job! Not sure why the gas vent is coming out at an angle? Anyway, it does not hurt anything and all that is is cosmetic. Hey, good work. John "Dave In Texas" wrote in message ... The 11-12 foot breezeway from my back entry door to the garshop has sported a tacked-on plastic paneled cover since we bought the house 20 years ago. Last summer's hail storm prompted me to tear it off last fall (bad timing going into hunting season). Formulated a building plan, did a few Sketchup drawings (mostly to calculate some dimensions) and started putting it all together (alone - ugh) in January. Tried not permitting it but our small, bedroom community "code enforcement officer" spotted the framing and paid me a visit. Re-did my drawings and waited out the plan approver. Now to take a couple of weeks off to rest - and heal. I'm getting too old to do this, especially the structural framing stuff alone. Dave in Houston |
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"jloomis" wrote in message ... Nice tie in. Don't you love the inspectors. I deal with that always. Being a Building Contractor I have to decide whether to bring in the County Office or go for it. sometimes in a rural area I can get away without a permit. I tell you, I build it stronger than the engineer too. Looks like you did a very nice job! Not sure why the gas vent is coming out at an angle? Anyway, it does not hurt anything and all that is is cosmetic. Hey, good work. Thanks, John. When I did get the 'windstorm' inspection last week our building inspector (not the same guy as the code enforcement officer - go figure) seemed duly impressed, I think, account I wasn't just some DIY homeowner cobbling a project like this together. Called today for the framing inspection. I don't understand how this part works. 98% of the framing was in place when the guy did the windstorm inspection. I mean, you have to put all the framing in place so you can put all the hurricane ties and metal connectors in place. Very little in the way of structural framing has been added. But, he said to call for the framing inspection after the roof went on and so, I did. Boxing in the soffits is about all the 2X work left though I did add a pair of strongbacks. Dave in Houston |
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On 3/3/2010 7:30 PM, Dave In Texas wrote:
"jloomis" wrote in message ... Nice tie in. Don't you love the inspectors. I deal with that always. Being a Building Contractor I have to decide whether to bring in the County Office or go for it. sometimes in a rural area I can get away without a permit. I tell you, I build it stronger than the engineer too. Looks like you did a very nice job! Not sure why the gas vent is coming out at an angle? Anyway, it does not hurt anything and all that is is cosmetic. Hey, good work. Thanks, John. When I did get the 'windstorm' inspection last week our building inspector (not the same guy as the code enforcement officer - go figure) seemed duly impressed, I think, account I wasn't just some DIY homeowner cobbling a project like this together. Called today for the framing inspection. I don't understand how this part works. 98% of the framing was in place when the guy did the windstorm inspection. I mean, you have to put all the framing in place so you can put all the hurricane ties and metal connectors in place. Very little in the way of structural framing has been added. But, he said to call for the framing inspection after the roof went on and so, I did. Boxing in the soffits is about all the 2X work left though I did add a pair of strongbacks. Well done! Better man than me in this day and age ... I hate finishing/painting, but would do it 20 hours a day instead of framing at my age. As you've found out, windstorm is a completely different and separate inspection than framing, and deals with strapping, gable end bracing (also checked in framing inspections in hurricane areas), sheer wall, etc (last not applicable in a single story). What part of Texas? One thing I did notice is an apparent absence of collar ties in your rafters (unless you put them in later, or they just can't be seen in the pictures)? If that is the case, that absence would guarantee a fail on the framing inspection in the Gulf Coast regions I build in, but that would depend upon your area. Any way ... judging by the photos, you did a better job than many framing crews these days. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 10/22/08 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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"Swingman" wrote in message ... Well done! Better man than me in this day and age ... I hate finishing/painting, but would do it 20 hours a day instead of framing at my age. I'm paying for it; believe me. Up and down ladders, using what arm and upper body strength I have left to maneuver in and around rafters /joists, holding on or bracing with one arm in some twisted position while holding a Senco N65 at arms length. Shoulders, knees, hands - ouch. As you've found out, windstorm is a completely different and separate inspection than framing, and deals with strapping, gable end bracing (also checked in framing inspections in hurricane areas), sheer wall, etc (last not applicable in a single story). What part of Texas? One thing I did notice is an apparent absence of collar ties in your rafters (unless you put them in later, or they just can't be seen in the pictures)? If that is the case, that absence would guarantee a fail on the framing inspection in the Gulf Coast regions I build in, but that would depend upon your area. Close; Beltway 8 and 290. No collar ties though it wouldn't take much to add them on a project this size. Inspector never mentioned them and all the framing was there for him to see. Since all the joists are tied to the rafters which are tied to the plate and all the rafters are tied to the ridge (see attached photos) collar ties seem superfluous though I'm sure they must add some stiffening. Aren't joists just full length collar ties? Oddly enough, this 1957 house did not have collar ties when I had it inspected prior to closing. I mentioned it to the home inspector who I was paying and he put it in his report. I ended up adding them myself before we closed. That was 20 years ago [this month]. Any way ... judging by the photos, you did a better job than many framing crews these days. Thank you. I can afford to take my time. I've seen work by some of those crews on "custom homes" of my 'Yiddish' home builder friend (West U, Bellaire). I suspect those crews get paid by the square foot and that the faster they get it up the more dollars per hour they can make. They seemingly shoot twice as many nails as necessary because half of what they shoot miss the mark. Knowing you're a builder, Swing, I appreciate "making the grade." Do you ever play Goode Company anymore? I'd like to know if you ever play the new one at 290 and 6. -- Dave in Houston flickr :: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nuwave_dave/ http://www.pbase.com/speedracer |
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On 3/4/2010 12:08 AM, Dave In Texas wrote:
I'm paying for it; believe me. Up and down ladders, using what arm and upper body strength I have left to maneuver in and around rafters /joists, holding on or bracing with one arm in some twisted position while holding a Senco N65 at arms length. Shoulders, knees, hands - ouch. Hell, I just framed a chicken coop, fer crissakes, and I'm still suffering. (It would be nice, just once again, to shave the left side of my face with my right hand, but my shoulder won't let me). Oddly enough, this 1957 house did not have collar ties when I had it inspected prior to closing. I mentioned it to the home inspector who I was paying and he put it in his report. I ended up adding them myself before we closed. That was 20 years ago [this month]. Strictly IMO, it is a good idea to bite the bullet and put them in in a hurricane prone area. Like you say, not much at all for the added stiffness. Thank you. I can afford to take my time. I've seen work by some of those crews on "custom homes" of my 'Yiddish' home builder friend (West U, Bellaire). I suspect those crews get paid by the square foot and that the faster they get it up the more dollars per hour they can make. They seemingly shoot twice as many nails as necessary because half of what they shoot miss the mark. AAMOF, I do live in WestU myself and have built quite a few homes there. This is our latest brouhaha on the "building inspection" front ... ...they made the mistake of asking me http://instantnewswestu.com/2010/02/23/8110/ Framing is definitely bid on a square foot basis around these parts. I've been using the same framing company, Leonel Hernandez Framing out of Pasadena, for almost a decade. Some of his crews are better than others, but they're all good and after a few houses I can now generally get the crew I want from Leo. Like building square cabinets from the git go, it's a real comfort, and time saver, to have someone meticulous and who can do framing the old fashioned way. Knowing you're a builder, Swing, I appreciate "making the grade." LOL ... I could tell just by looking at the 'precision' that a "wooddorker" did the framing! Sheeeesh, Bubba!, this is "framing", fer crying out loud! Do you ever play Goode Company anymore? I'd like to know if you ever play the new one at 290 and 6. Haven't played Goode Co. in years. Haven't hung it up yet, but I have slowed down. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 10/22/08 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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