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Mark & Juanita May 28th 07 07:02 AM

Captain's Bed, Done at Last!
 


At long last, the Captain's bed is done and installed.

Pictures may be viewed at: http://mklange.cnc.net/CaptainsBed.html
Latest pictures are at the bottom.

Home page: http://mklange.cnc.net



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Lee Michaels May 28th 07 07:41 AM

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"Mark & Juanita" dazzled us with pictures of his son's lovely bed.....

Bee yoo ti fullll!!

Your son must be very happy.




John B May 28th 07 12:38 PM

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Mark & Juanita wrote:

At long last, the Captain's bed is done and installed.

Pictures may be viewed at: http://mklange.cnc.net/CaptainsBed.html
Latest pictures are at the bottom.

Home page: http://mklange.cnc.net



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G'day Mark,
Very nice cabinetry. I also love the design.
Now if only the young bloke will keep his room as tidy as the photos,
all the time :)

all the best
John

Edwin Pawlowski May 28th 07 01:17 PM

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"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
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At long last, the Captain's bed is done and installed.

Pictures may be viewed at: http://mklange.cnc.net/CaptainsBed.html
Latest pictures are at the bottom.

Home page: http://mklange.cnc.net


Verrrrrrry nice. I like the way you went from drawing to finished product
on the web page too.



Casper May 28th 07 01:57 PM

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Very nice indeed. That is truly a beautiful heirloom. I hope he only
grows to appreciate it along with his future children and their
children and so on. Captains beds are just wonderful anyway, but this
one is exceptional. Congratulations!!

`Casper

Mark & Juanita were heard to mutter:

At long last, the Captain's bed is done and installed.

Pictures may be viewed at: http://mklange.cnc.net/CaptainsBed.html
Latest pictures are at the bottom.

Home page: http://mklange.cnc.net

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Leon May 28th 07 03:09 PM

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"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
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At long last, the Captain's bed is done and installed.

Pictures may be viewed at: http://mklange.cnc.net/CaptainsBed.html
Latest pictures are at the bottom.

Home page: http://mklange.cnc.net



Very nice! I see you keep in the "RED" room. ;~)



Robatoy May 28th 07 03:23 PM

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In article ,
Mark & Juanita wrote:

At long last, the Captain's bed is done and installed.

Very nice! An heirloom for sure.

Mark & Juanita May 28th 07 05:08 PM

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On Mon, 28 May 2007 02:41:00 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
wrote:


"Mark & Juanita" dazzled us with pictures of his son's lovely bed.....

Bee yoo ti fullll!!

Your son must be very happy.




Thank-you all for your kind comments. Yes, son is happy with it, he said
it again this morning. :-)



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Mark & Juanita May 28th 07 05:08 PM

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On Mon, 28 May 2007 19:38:37 +0800, John B wrote:


Now if only the young bloke will keep his room as tidy as the photos,
all the time :)


Yep, you've hit upon the crux of it.

all the best
John



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Mark & Juanita May 28th 07 05:11 PM

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On Mon, 28 May 2007 14:09:25 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:


"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
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At long last, the Captain's bed is done and installed.

Pictures may be viewed at: http://mklange.cnc.net/CaptainsBed.html
Latest pictures are at the bottom.

Home page: http://mklange.cnc.net



Very nice! I see you keep in the "RED" room. ;~)


His choice of color. He had been lobbying for red for several years and
we kind of ignored it, but he was so consistent with that choice of color,
we went ahead with it when the bed base was ready to be brought in last
July. I found him sitting in the middle of the floor the next morning
(before furniture was brought in) just smilling.



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Mark & Juanita May 28th 07 05:12 PM

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On Mon, 28 May 2007 08:17:29 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:


"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
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At long last, the Captain's bed is done and installed.

Pictures may be viewed at: http://mklange.cnc.net/CaptainsBed.html
Latest pictures are at the bottom.

Home page: http://mklange.cnc.net


Verrrrrrry nice. I like the way you went from drawing to finished product
on the web page too.


Thanks. I was wondering whether folks would find that too much to scroll
through.



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CW May 28th 07 05:30 PM

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I trust that it met the approval of the feline inspector. No furniture is
approved for use until the cat walks on it. :)

"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 14:09:25 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:


"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
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At long last, the Captain's bed is done and installed.

Pictures may be viewed at: http://mklange.cnc.net/CaptainsBed.html
Latest pictures are at the bottom.

Home page: http://mklange.cnc.net



Very nice! I see you keep in the "RED" room. ;~)


His choice of color. He had been lobbying for red for several years and
we kind of ignored it, but he was so consistent with that choice of color,
we went ahead with it when the bed base was ready to be brought in last
July. I found him sitting in the middle of the floor the next morning
(before furniture was brought in) just smilling.




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Mark & Juanita May 28th 07 06:20 PM

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On Mon, 28 May 2007 16:30:05 GMT, "CW" wrote:

I trust that it met the approval of the feline inspector. No furniture is
approved for use until the cat walks on it. :)


Absolutely, another high place to perch upon and some a potentially
better launching point to those tantalizing black shelves.



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Stoutman May 29th 07 02:56 AM

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Outstanding job! Incredible accomplishment!
--
Stoutman
www.garagewoodworks.com



Mark & Juanita May 29th 07 05:37 AM

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On Mon, 28 May 2007 21:56:46 -0400, "Stoutman" .@. wrote:

Outstanding job! Incredible accomplishment!
--
Stoutman
www.garagewoodworks.com


Thanks. It's been a while since the last update, thought you might like
it.


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Owen Lawrence May 30th 07 03:55 AM

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"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
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At long last, the Captain's bed is done and installed.

Pictures may be viewed at: http://mklange.cnc.net/CaptainsBed.html
Latest pictures are at the bottom.

Home page: http://mklange.cnc.net


Wow, really nice!

My very next project is to be a captain's bed for my son. I was almost
afraid to show him your pictures since there's little chance his will be
that nice. But I showed him anyway. He said, "That's what I want."

Then he said, "It's red. There's a kitty..."

- Owen -



Mark & Juanita May 30th 07 04:42 AM

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On Tue, 29 May 2007 22:55:45 -0400, "Owen Lawrence"
wrote:


"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
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At long last, the Captain's bed is done and installed.

Pictures may be viewed at: http://mklange.cnc.net/CaptainsBed.html
Latest pictures are at the bottom.

Home page: http://mklange.cnc.net


Wow, really nice!

My very next project is to be a captain's bed for my son. I was almost
afraid to show him your pictures since there's little chance his will be
that nice. But I showed him anyway. He said, "That's what I want."

Then he said, "It's red. There's a kitty..."

- Owen -


Not helping you at all, am I? Sorry 'bout that. ;-)

Thanks for the kind words



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B A R R Y May 30th 07 12:51 PM

Captain's Bed, Done at Last!
 
Mark & Juanita wrote:

At long last, the Captain's bed is done and installed.


Very nice!

Creighton Beryl May 31st 07 02:18 AM

Captain's Bed, Done at Last!
 
Mark & Juanita wrote in
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At long last, the Captain's bed is done and installed.

Pictures may be viewed at: http://mklange.cnc.net/CaptainsBed.html
Latest pictures are at the bottom.

Home page: http://mklange.cnc.net



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676 hours to build that? The equivalent of seventeen 40 hour weeks?
Does that include the time it took to grow the freaking trees? It's
nice enough, if that's your thing, but where did all that time go?

CB




Mark & Juanita May 31st 07 06:17 AM

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On 31 May 2007 01:18:32 GMT, Creighton Beryl wrote:

Mark & Juanita wrote in
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At long last, the Captain's bed is done and installed.

Pictures may be viewed at: http://mklange.cnc.net/CaptainsBed.html
Latest pictures are at the bottom.

Home page: http://mklange.cnc.net



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676 hours to build that? The equivalent of seventeen 40 hour weeks?
Does that include the time it took to grow the freaking trees? It's
nice enough, if that's your thing, but where did all that time go?

CB




Short answer: Download the Excel file, it's there in excruciating detail

Long answer:

Coming up with the design, drafting it out, and being satisfied with the
esthetics of the design: About 50 hours

Base frames and carcase construction (there are two of them): About 50
hours

Face frame and dust skirt construction: About 60 hours

Construction of a centered baseplate for my router to improve dovetail jig
results: 5 hours

Drawer lumber dimensioning and glueups for 14 drawers: 30 hours

Drawer construction through scraping and planing for finsihing for 14
drawers: 92 hours

Drawer runner installation, milling drawer grooves and drawer fitting for
14 inset drawers: About 45 hours

Drawer finish (Danish oil and wipe-on poly, followed by 2 coats of wax) and
face frame finish: About 30 hours

Base frame attachment to one another and installation of mattress support,
installed bases in bedroom: About 10 hours

Building and installation of temporary headboard and footboard: About 10
hours

Building, finishing, and installing footboard: About 90 hours

Building, finishing, and installing headboard: 185 hours

Of which:
Construct and finish lower panel assembly: 80 hours
Construct all major rails: 20 hours
Upper panel construction and finish: 50 hours
Cross piece finishing: 5 hours
Construct and finish posts: 20 hours
Assemble and install: 10 hours



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Upscale May 31st 07 06:19 AM

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"Creighton Beryl" wrote in message

676 hours to build that? The equivalent of seventeen 40 hour weeks?
Does that include the time it took to grow the freaking trees? It's
nice enough, if that's your thing, but where did all that time go?


Looking at the log file, he built it over an 18 month period. If you
consider during that time, he likely had to get tools and supplies out each
time to continue, it's not all that unusual for excessive time to be
consumed. It takes a hell of lot more cumulative time to build something
when it's done on a piecemeal basis than when it's built mostly on a
continuous stream.



B A R R Y May 31st 07 11:59 AM

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Upscale wrote:
"Creighton Beryl" wrote in message
676 hours to build that? The equivalent of seventeen 40 hour weeks?
Does that include the time it took to grow the freaking trees? It's
nice enough, if that's your thing, but where did all that time go?


Looking at the log file, he built it over an 18 month period. If you
consider during that time, he likely had to get tools and supplies out each
time to continue, it's not all that unusual for excessive time to be
consumed.


There's also hours in the log installing band saw guides and some other
stuff that isn't really building the project.

But I agree that short sessions can drastically increase building time.
There seems to be a certain fixed "overhead" associated with each
session for setup, takedown, clean up, and getting the groove.

Mark & Juanita June 1st 07 04:00 AM

Captain's Bed, Done at Last!
 
On Thu, 31 May 2007 00:19:23 -0500, "Upscale" wrote:

"Creighton Beryl" wrote in message

676 hours to build that? The equivalent of seventeen 40 hour weeks?
Does that include the time it took to grow the freaking trees? It's
nice enough, if that's your thing, but where did all that time go?


Looking at the log file, he built it over an 18 month period. If you
consider during that time, he likely had to get tools and supplies out each
time to continue, it's not all that unusual for excessive time to be
consumed. It takes a hell of lot more cumulative time to build something
when it's done on a piecemeal basis than when it's built mostly on a
continuous stream.


Thanks. There is that too. Even if you don't have to put everything
away, picking back up Saturday morning where you left off Sunday evening
takes a little to get back into the swing.



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Mark & Juanita June 1st 07 04:48 AM

Captain's Bed, Done at Last!
 
On Thu, 31 May 2007 06:59:19 -0400, B A R R Y
wrote:

Upscale wrote:
"Creighton Beryl" wrote in message
676 hours to build that? The equivalent of seventeen 40 hour weeks?
Does that include the time it took to grow the freaking trees? It's
nice enough, if that's your thing, but where did all that time go?


Looking at the log file, he built it over an 18 month period. If you
consider during that time, he likely had to get tools and supplies out each
time to continue, it's not all that unusual for excessive time to be
consumed.


There's also hours in the log installing band saw guides and some other
stuff that isn't really building the project.


Those things were directly related to the project. The router base was
needed to improve the dovetail results. I specifically got the bandsaw
guides to make sure I had the control needed to cut the curves on the
headboard posts. The posts were too wide to shape with the shaper. Turns
out the bandsaw guides didn't work as well as needed and I wound up using
the shaper by attaching the template on both sides of the post. Some
cleanup with a spokeshave was required, but it worked much better that way.

Shop cleanup, tool sharpening (arguably a part of the project since the
project was responsible for dulling the tools in the first place), router
guide, and Carter guide installation accounted for about 11:20 minutes of
the accounted time.




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Mark & Juanita June 1st 07 05:23 AM

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On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:48:48 -0700, Mark & Juanita
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 06:59:19 -0400, B A R R Y
wrote:

Upscale wrote:
"Creighton Beryl" wrote in message
676 hours to build that? The equivalent of seventeen 40 hour weeks?
Does that include the time it took to grow the freaking trees? It's
nice enough, if that's your thing, but where did all that time go?

Looking at the log file, he built it over an 18 month period. If you
consider during that time, he likely had to get tools and supplies out each
time to continue, it's not all that unusual for excessive time to be
consumed.


There's also hours in the log installing band saw guides and some other
stuff that isn't really building the project.


Those things were directly related to the project. The router base was
needed to improve the dovetail results. I specifically got the bandsaw
guides to make sure I had the control needed to cut the curves on the
headboard posts. The posts were too wide to shape with the shaper. Turns
out the bandsaw guides didn't work as well as needed and I wound up using
the shaper by attaching the template on both sides of the post. Some
cleanup with a spokeshave was required, but it worked much better that way.

Shop cleanup, tool sharpening (arguably a part of the project since the
project was responsible for dulling the tools in the first place), router
guide, and Carter guide installation accounted for about 11:20 minutes of
the accounted time.


That should have read 11 hours, 20 minutes



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B A R R Y June 1st 07 12:25 PM

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Mark & Juanita wrote:

That should have read 11 hours, 20 minutes


Doesn't matter, the bed looks great. G


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