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Or an ignoramus!
http://tiny.cc/s76ory
He's asking C$1500 for a lathe that is worth only $100.
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On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 8:12:27 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
Or an ignoramus!
http://tiny.cc/s76ory
He's asking C$1500 for a lathe that is worth only $100.
Graham


I like the "new condition" statement. A 40-50 year old lathe that has been used some, is "new condition". Ha Ha. I like that it comes with a 40-50 year old version of a Harbor Freight lathe tool set. I guess everything at Harbor Freight was copied from somewhere else.

I think 1500 Canadian is about $1200 USA dollars. The lathe is an old Delta when they called themselves Rockwell. So it has history and a good reputation for quality. But it is just a 12" swing, 36" length lathe with pulleys and maybe a 1 HP motor. So a few hundred US dollars is top price. Maybe, maybe, maybe $300 USD if the stars are all aligned and you have a couple lucky charms and the buyer is not too swift.
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On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 8:12:27 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
Or an ignoramus!
http://tiny.cc/s76ory
He's asking C$1500 for a lathe that is worth only $100.
Graham


I like the "new condition" statement. A 40-50 year old lathe that has been used some, is "new condition". Ha Ha. I like that it comes with a 40-50 year old version of a Harbor Freight lathe tool set. I guess everything at Harbor Freight was copied from somewhere else.

I think 1500 Canadian is about $1200 USA dollars. The lathe is an old Delta when they called themselves Rockwell. So it has history and a good reputation for quality. But it is just a 12" swing, 36" length lathe with pulleys and maybe a 1 HP motor. So a few hundred US dollars is top price. Maybe, maybe, maybe $300 USD if the stars are all aligned and you have a couple lucky charms and the buyer is not too swift.

But you need a wrench to move the tool rest banjo and tail stock and the
tool post holder is also poor. US$300 will buy you a much superior lathe.
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He's asking C$1500 for a lathe that is worth only $100.



sometimes the seller likes the item better than anyone else

pricing is interesting to say the least









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On 2018-03-10 11:15 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 19:12:24 -0700
graham wrote:

He's asking C$1500 for a lathe that is worth only $100.



sometimes the seller likes the item better than anyone else

pricing is interesting to say the least

I e-mailed him and told him its real value but he hasn't changed the ad
yet.



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On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 11:08:12 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
On 2018-03-09 9:19 PM, wrote:
On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 8:12:27 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
Or an ignoramus!
http://tiny.cc/s76ory
He's asking C$1500 for a lathe that is worth only $100.
Graham


I like the "new condition" statement. A 40-50 year old lathe that has been used some, is "new condition". Ha Ha. I like that it comes with a 40-50 year old version of a Harbor Freight lathe tool set. I guess everything at Harbor Freight was copied from somewhere else.

I think 1500 Canadian is about $1200 USA dollars. The lathe is an old Delta when they called themselves Rockwell. So it has history and a good reputation for quality. But it is just a 12" swing, 36" length lathe with pulleys and maybe a 1 HP motor. So a few hundred US dollars is top price. Maybe, maybe, maybe $300 USD if the stars are all aligned and you have a couple lucky charms and the buyer is not too swift.

But you need a wrench to move the tool rest banjo and tail stock and the
tool post holder is also poor. US$300 will buy you a much superior lathe.


Yes you need a wrench or socket to move the banjo on the lathe bed. But Harbor Freight sells them for $3.99. Just keep one sitting next to the lathe.. Not that big a deal. Not sure why you feel the tool rest post holder on the banjo is bad? It squeezes the tool post. It has a sliding bar in the one rest to simply and easily squeeze the post. The other rest is missing the sliding bar but it can easily be replaced with a long bolt and nut. I'm sure Robust and Oneway use some kind of internal cam system now days to squeeze the post. But this is a 1960s lathe and anything of comparable value today does not have the Robust/Oneway cam system on the banjo.

$300 today may get you a name brand Jet or Delta mini lathe, maybe on sale. Regular price is $100+ more than $300. I'm sure Harbor Freight and some of the others sell mini lathes for around $300. I would not call that comparable. And you get the $25 pre Harbor Freight turning tools to practice sharpening on your grinder!
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On 2018-03-10 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 11:08:12 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
On 2018-03-09 9:19 PM,
wrote:
On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 8:12:27 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
Or an ignoramus!
http://tiny.cc/s76ory
He's asking C$1500 for a lathe that is worth only $100.
Graham

I like the "new condition" statement. A 40-50 year old lathe that has been used some, is "new condition". Ha Ha. I like that it comes with a 40-50 year old version of a Harbor Freight lathe tool set. I guess everything at Harbor Freight was copied from somewhere else.

I think 1500 Canadian is about $1200 USA dollars. The lathe is an old Delta when they called themselves Rockwell. So it has history and a good reputation for quality. But it is just a 12" swing, 36" length lathe with pulleys and maybe a 1 HP motor. So a few hundred US dollars is top price. Maybe, maybe, maybe $300 USD if the stars are all aligned and you have a couple lucky charms and the buyer is not too swift.

But you need a wrench to move the tool rest banjo and tail stock and the
tool post holder is also poor. US$300 will buy you a much superior lathe.


Yes you need a wrench or socket to move the banjo on the lathe bed. But Harbor Freight sells them for $3.99. Just keep one sitting next to the lathe. Not that big a deal. Not sure why you feel the tool rest post holder on the banjo is bad? It squeezes the tool post. It has a sliding bar in the one rest to simply and easily squeeze the post. The other rest is missing the sliding bar but it can easily be replaced with a long bolt and nut. I'm sure Robust and Oneway use some kind of internal cam system now days to squeeze the post. But this is a 1960s lathe and anything of comparable value today does not have the Robust/Oneway cam system on the banjo.

$300 today may get you a name brand Jet or Delta mini lathe, maybe on sale. Regular price is $100+ more than $300. I'm sure Harbor Freight and some of the others sell mini lathes for around $300. I would not call that comparable. And you get the $25 pre Harbor Freight turning tools to practice sharpening on your grinder!

Yebbut!
A few specs:
11" swing over bed
15" swing over 3" gap
36" between centres
3/4" - 16 LH outboard spindle thread
7/8" - 14 RH inboard thread

That inboard thread is a bummer, IMO.
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On 2018-03-10 12:14 PM, graham wrote:
On 2018-03-10 11:15 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 19:12:24 -0700
graham wrote:

He's asking C$1500 for a lathe that is worth only $100.



sometimes the seller likes the item better than anyone else

pricing is interesting to say the least

I e-mailed him and told him its real value but he hasn't changed the ad
yet.

He has removed his ad. However, there's another for C$650!!
http://tiny.cc/8ieqry

I have a General 160 for sale (the basic cast iron part on a custom
base) that is clearly superior and I very much doubt that I will be able
to get more than $300 for it.
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On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 14:10:34 -0600
graham wrote:

I have a General 160 for sale (the basic cast iron part on a custom
base) that is clearly superior and I very much doubt that I will be able
to get more than $300 for it.


amzing considering how much is spent on cells and laptops

you need to find the right young person to sell that too


put up an add at the local pool hall and make a point of the fact that
you could make your own pool cues


or advertise as a baseball bat turning machine

pinpoint marketing


maybe offer a few hours of training at their premises and after it is
sold and you have the money












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