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this old blount looks to have seen better days but it is probably built
like a tank and if the motor is good could be placed back into service with out spending a lot https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lg...487969403.html could probably turn outboard too the price seems high but it is in very good shape https://fresno.craigslist.org/tls/d/...440850653.html not a bad deal compared with what 600 will get you for a new lathe https://sacramento.craigslist.org/tl...488944396.html a massive oliver this might be the same one seen before https://sacramento.craigslist.org/tl...476274785.html interesting vintage vega https://reno.craigslist.org/tls/d/ve...464537055.html not bad since it can turn outboard as well even though it is a jet it would make a great starter setup since it also includes a woodcraft waterstone sharpener https://klamath.craigslist.org/tls/d...483844412.html a unrealistic price for an oddball https://fresno.craigslist.org/tls/d/...470726239.html this could be saved for april fools day https://klamath.craigslist.org/tls/d...483844412.html |
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On 2018-02-08 12:19 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
not a bad deal compared with what 600 will get you for a new lathe https://sacramento.craigslist.org/tl...488944396.html General was a great company making superb woodworking machinery at their foundry in Drummondville, Quebec. The only N.American competitor on quality in those days was Powermatic - Delta was almost as good. Now General is no more and the Powermatic foundry has also closed (AIUI). |
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On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 10:24:50 AM UTC-6, graham wrote:
On 2018-02-08 12:19 PM, Electric Comet wrote: not a bad deal compared with what 600 will get you for a new lathe https://sacramento.craigslist.org/tl...488944396.html General was a great company making superb woodworking machinery at their foundry in Drummondville, Quebec. The only N.American competitor on quality in those days was Powermatic - Delta was almost as good. Now General is no more and the Powermatic foundry has also closed (AIUI). Its been 20 to 30 years since the North American companies made American/Canadian tools. Think Powermatic was the first to go to Taiwan and/or China. Followed fairly quickly by Delta. Early to late 1990s when this happened.. General, not sure what happened to them. They were always tiny compared to the other two. Not sure if ownership changed 30 years ago and the new owner immediately closed all Canadian built machines and moved everything instantly to China. Or maybe General stayed with its old owners and they saw the writing on the walls and followed Delta and Powermatic to China or Taiwan. But for all of them, its been 20-30 years since any of them made North American machines. Its all Chinese now. |
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On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 09:24:46 -0700
graham wrote: General was a great company making superb woodworking machinery at their foundry in Drummondville, Quebec. The only N.American competitor on quality in those days was Powermatic - Delta was almost as good. Now General is no more and the Powermatic foundry has also closed (AIUI). i recall your previous comments about general here did not look closely at this one but from what you are seeing this is a real good buy |
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On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 4:47:16 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 09:24:46 -0700 graham wrote: General was a great company making superb woodworking machinery at their foundry in Drummondville, Quebec. The only N.American competitor on quality in those days was Powermatic - Delta was almost as good. Now General is no more and the Powermatic foundry has also closed (AIUI). i recall your previous comments about general here did not look closely at this one but from what you are seeing this is a real good buy The General 160 lathe for $600 is probably a great buy. Value wise. BUT, its still a 12" swing lathe. Is 36" between centers. Pulley speed changes.. Maybe Reeves drive to get variable speed. Not sure. You can get the exact same specs today by buying a new mini lathe and an extension. For less than $600. Maybe even get variable speed on the mini lathe. The General is a good lathe. But technology has changed a bit in the last 30 years. I would love to have this General. But you can get the same capabilities for less today. The $600 is probably based on the fact the lathe cost $1500+ brand new 30 years ago. The seller thinks its still worth 40% of retail back then. Probably true. But retail prices of lathes has come down since then. Maybe quality too compared to this fine Canadian General. |
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 06:46:37 -0700
graham wrote: advert. Apparently General used to age all the castings to allow stress relief before machining them. The quality of their table saws was legendary. I saw some ex-school shop ones in a local store i saw on some vendor site future metal lathe parts they season them outdoors for months and years before they finish them and make them into lathes or mills etc i doubt the stuff made in china is seasoned before they finish them |
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On 2018-02-10 11:28 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 06:46:37 -0700 graham wrote: advert. Apparently General used to age all the castings to allow stress relief before machining them. The quality of their table saws was legendary. I saw some ex-school shop ones in a local store i saw on some vendor site future metal lathe parts they season them outdoors for months and years before they finish them and make them into lathes or mills etc i doubt the stuff made in china is seasoned before they finish them They most probably re-heat the cast iron to relieve the stress in higher quality tools. In the early days of Taiwanese imports, it paid to take a straight edge with you when buying, say, a table saw to check the flatness of the table. These days the quality is much higher. |
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On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 7:46:40 AM UTC-6, graham wrote:
On 2018-02-09 11:34 PM, wrote: On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 4:47:16 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote: On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 09:24:46 -0700 graham wrote: General was a great company making superb woodworking machinery at their foundry in Drummondville, Quebec. The only N.American competitor on quality in those days was Powermatic - Delta was almost as good. Now General is no more and the Powermatic foundry has also closed (AIUI). i recall your previous comments about general here did not look closely at this one but from what you are seeing this is a real good buy The General 160 lathe for $600 is probably a great buy. Value wise. BUT, its still a 12" swing lathe. Is 36" between centers. Pulley speed changes. Maybe Reeves drive to get variable speed. Not sure. No, it's a 4-speed. If it had the Reeves drive, there would be a lever on the front of the cabinet. I'm faced with a similar problem regarding pricing. I have a 160 for sale. I hear you. Your problem is even though your 160 is undoubtedly a fine lathe, it really just isn't worth a whole lot today when compared to what you can buy brand new. For what you want for the 160, its possible to buy a brand new Chinese lathe with an extension bed and maybe variable speed and be able to do 120% of what the 160 can do. Think of cars. A fancy luxury car from the 1970s is the same or maybe worse than a medium Camry, Accord etc.. today. Camry and Accord are not luxury cars, but they probably have better, more powerful motors and nicer interiors today than what the 1970s luxury cars had. Would you buy a 1972 Coupe de Ville for the same price you can buy a new Camry? Most likely not. Unless you really want the pimp image.. It is just the cast iron top on a custom base. I bought it that way and built the base as I'm too tall for the cabinet-type in this advert. |
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