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nice setup with the outboard attachment too and wheels https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/d...203927737.html the halogen lights will keep you warm |
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On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 3:55:12 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
nice setup with the outboard attachment too and wheels https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/d...203927737.html the halogen lights will keep you warm That motor means you will be extremely limited in what you can turn outboard, irrespective of which way you pivot the headstock. |
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On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 07:55:47 -0700 (PDT)
"Dr. Deb" wrote: That motor means you will be extremely limited in what you can turn outboard, irrespective of which way you pivot the headstock. how so |
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On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 4:39:35 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 07:55:47 -0700 (PDT) That motor means you will be extremely limited in what you can turn outboard, irrespective of which way you pivot the headstock. how so The motor sticks out past the end of the headstock, hence, the max diameter you can turn is limited by the distance between the center of the face plate and the motor, times two, which in this case is probably not more than 12". That means a 24" diameter piece is the max you could turn. |
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On 2017-07-13 6:05 AM, Dr. Deb wrote:
On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 4:39:35 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote: On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 07:55:47 -0700 (PDT) That motor means you will be extremely limited in what you can turn outboard, irrespective of which way you pivot the headstock. how so The motor sticks out past the end of the headstock, hence, the max diameter you can turn is limited by the distance between the center of the face plate and the motor, times two, which in this case is probably not more than 12". That means a 24" diameter piece is the max you could turn. Not so! Our club has one and the motor sticks out to the rear of the headstock not the front. Checkout https://lagunatools.com/classic-machinery/lathes/ |
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I think Dr. Deb is implying that you will turn outboard on this lathe the same way you turn outboard on a Oneway lathe. Where the motor and headstock are fixed in place. Put the chuck, faceplate on the back side of the headstock and reverse the motor and move the toolrest over to the outbound side.. But the Laguna is a sliding headstock lathe. You NEVER EVER turn outboard with it. You just slide the headstock down to the end of the bed and turn off the end of the bed. The Laguna and Powermatic 3520 and Jet 1640 and Robust Beauty lathes are all sliding headstock lathes. No outboard to them. You can only mount the chuck on one side of the headstock. Unlike the Oneway and Vicmarc and old General and old Delta lathes which had fixed headstocks and fixed motors and you could screw the chuck on both sides of the headstock spindle.
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On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 9:13:15 PM UTC-5, Martin Eastburn wrote:
I agree. In fact my lathe has left hand threads on the outboard side. Inside is right hand. I can turn with a spindle bolt a 24" plate easily. I just have it out in the room - already - and off the ground. I could do a 48" plate. Only 24" down and 24" up. I just don't. Don't need it. I have a large enough area and expanded near the head - no ways.. The 'modern' fancy ones are DC drive or 3phase drive and control the speed forward or back. My lathe - circa 1947 is is belt driven from a motor that looks like a 20hp cage but is 1/2. It just lopes along - no issue. It is also a 110v.. Martin On 7/13/2017 4:08 PM, I think Dr. Deb is implying that you will turn outboard on this lathe the same way you turn outboard on a Oneway lathe. Where the motor and headstock are fixed in place. Put the chuck, faceplate on the back side of the headstock and reverse the motor and move the toolrest over to the outbound side. But the Laguna is a sliding headstock lathe. You NEVER EVER turn outboard with it. You just slide the headstock down to the end of the bed and turn off the end of the bed. The Laguna and Powermatic 3520 and Jet 1640 and Robust Beauty lathes are all sliding headstock lathes. No outboard to them. You can only mount the chuck on one side of the headstock. Unlike the Oneway and Vicmarc and old General and old Delta lathes which had fixed headstocks and fixed motors and you could screw the chuck on both sides of the headstock spindle. Mark, my lathe is a circa 1998 Woodfast M910 (1 1/4 x 8 inboard and 1 x 8 left hand thread, outboard) and has the same setup for outboard turning. The way I got around the thread problem was to have a couple of adapters made which allow me to use my normal chucks on the outboard side. |
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:08:32 -0700 (PDT)
" wrote: headstock lathe. You NEVER EVER turn outboard with it. You just slide the headstock down to the end of the bed and turn off the end of the bed. The Laguna and Powermatic 3520 and Jet 1640 and Robust Beauty lathes are all sliding headstock lathes. No outboard to this is what i thought this lathe did glad you cleared that up a really nice feature since it allows you to really get into hollow forms without having to lean over the bed looks like the lathe is gone as the ad is gone |
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On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 5:25:46 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:08:32 -0700 (PDT) " wrote: headstock lathe. You NEVER EVER turn outboard with it. You just slide the headstock down to the end of the bed and turn off the end of the bed. The Laguna and Powermatic 3520 and Jet 1640 and Robust Beauty lathes are all sliding headstock lathes. No outboard to this is what i thought this lathe did glad you cleared that up a really nice feature since it allows you to really get into hollow forms without having to lean over the bed Not sure I cleared anything up. I have looked at the Laguna lathes on the website. They are more or less identical to the sliding headstock lathes sold by Powermatic, Jet, Robust, etc. They are NOT the fixed headstock lathes like Oneway and Vicmarc. I have always thought the sliding headstock lathes were always the best way to make a lathe. No bending over the lathe to hollow out a bowl. Just stand at the end of the lathe and look straight into the bowl you are hollowing. No bending and twisting your back sideways. |
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If you do a lot of bowls buy a bowl lathe. They are specially designed
for turning bowls and large plates. If you do bowls and spindles,etc then use a standard lathe with as much as you can to enhance your life. Martin On 7/18/2017 2:17 PM, wrote: On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 5:25:46 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:08:32 -0700 (PDT) " wrote: headstock lathe. You NEVER EVER turn outboard with it. You just slide the headstock down to the end of the bed and turn off the end of the bed. The Laguna and Powermatic 3520 and Jet 1640 and Robust Beauty lathes are all sliding headstock lathes. No outboard to this is what i thought this lathe did glad you cleared that up a really nice feature since it allows you to really get into hollow forms without having to lean over the bed Not sure I cleared anything up. I have looked at the Laguna lathes on the website. They are more or less identical to the sliding headstock lathes sold by Powermatic, Jet, Robust, etc. They are NOT the fixed headstock lathes like Oneway and Vicmarc. I have always thought the sliding headstock lathes were always the best way to make a lathe. No bending over the lathe to hollow out a bowl. Just stand at the end of the lathe and look straight into the bowl you are hollowing. No bending and twisting your back sideways. |
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On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 9:03:58 PM UTC-5, Martin Eastburn wrote:
If you do a lot of bowls buy a bowl lathe. They are specially designed for turning bowls and large plates. A sliding headstock lathe eliminates the need to even think about having separate bowl and spindle lathes. Or compromising by using one to do the other task. Bowl lathes are basically short bed lathes with a large swing. And spindle lathes are long bed lathes. Sliding headstock lathes allow you to have BOTH a short and long bed on the same lathe. With a bowl lathe you stand at the end of the bed and hollow out the inside of the bowl. No bending over the short bed. With a sliding headstock lathe you can slide the head to the end of the bed and then stand at the end of the bed and hollow out the inside of the bowl. No need to bend over the bed. https://vicmarc.com/index.php?option...tegory_id =13 This is a Vicmarc 300 bowl lathe. It has a 19" bed. https://oneway.ca/products-category/...0-Series-Lathe The Oneway 2416 is a bowl lathe. 16" between centers. Or you can add on the outboard turning bed and get a 20" between center bowl lathe on the opposite side of the spindle part of your Oneway. |
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On 2017-07-19 3:14 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 9:03:58 PM UTC-5, Martin Eastburn wrote: If you do a lot of bowls buy a bowl lathe. They are specially designed for turning bowls and large plates. A sliding headstock lathe eliminates the need to even think about having separate bowl and spindle lathes. Or compromising by using one to do the other task. Bowl lathes are basically short bed lathes with a large swing. And spindle lathes are long bed lathes. Sliding headstock lathes allow you to have BOTH a short and long bed on the same lathe. With a bowl lathe you stand at the end of the bed and hollow out the inside of the bowl. No bending over the short bed. With a sliding headstock lathe you can slide the head to the end of the bed and then stand at the end of the bed and hollow out the inside of the bowl. No need to bend over the bed. https://vicmarc.com/index.php?option...tegory_id =13 This is a Vicmarc 300 bowl lathe. It has a 19" bed. https://oneway.ca/products-category/...0-Series-Lathe The Oneway 2416 is a bowl lathe. 16" between centers. Or you can add on the outboard turning bed and get a 20" between center bowl lathe on the opposite side of the spindle part of your Oneway. I have a Nova Galaxy and you can go from 16 diameter swing inboard, swivel the headstock to 45 degrees and instantly have a usable turning diameter of up to 18-inches, just using the standard tool rest and tool rest slide. Swivel to 90 degrees you have a turning diameter of 32-inches using the outrigger system. This means the user can go from inboard, turning of chair legs to turning a large hollow form vase or bowl in a matter of minutes to set up. Other lathes take a lot of time to set up for larger work as the head needs to be slid down the tailstock end of the lathe, and the tailstock needs to be taken off. It also means that the turner does not need to lean awkwardly over the bed to turn they can stand in a very comfortable position either to the side or right in front of the turning. Graham |
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:14:26 -0700 (PDT)
" wrote: A sliding headstock lathe eliminates the need to even think about having separate bowl and spindle lathes. Or compromising by using one to do the other task. Bowl lathes are basically short bed lathes with a large swing. And spindle lathes are long bed lathes. Sliding headstock lathes allow you to have BOTH a short and long bed on the same lathe. With a bowl lathe you stand at the end of the bed and hollow out the inside of the bowl. No bending over the short bed. With a sliding headstock lathe you can slide the head to the end of the bed and then stand at the end of the bed and hollow out the inside of the bowl. No need to bend over the bed. yep glad you are clearing things up again if you mentioned it i missed it but bending over is unsafe for many reasons fatigue and big chance of making contact and harder to see into the bowl or form |
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