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I had had a piece of dogwood laying around the shop for about five years. Its not a big piece, but then dogwood does not get all that big. It was about 5 1/2-6" in diameter and about 32" long, and had a crack running along it, lengthwise, that reached almost to the center.

Knowing that turning anything out of this (down log) would be "interesting" at best, I decided to fill the crack with epoxy and bright copper flakes. The result was a dark mahogany colored streak with copper flecks in it.

I divided the log into two 5 1/2 x 16 blanks and turned two vases. The first vase was 4 1/2 x 12. The second was 4 1/2 x 14.

As I said, its been awhile since I have been at the lathe, for anything of consequence, and it showed. Catches redefined the shape of both vases, but the second one was more like what I had in mind when I started.

I might add, turning end grain on very dry dogwood is a "tad" different than turning side grain on wet wood, of any kind. ;-)

Two lessons learned:
1) I need to move the lathe (all 560lb of it) to give room for the longer boring bar to be used.
2) Practice, practice, practice. Put another way, "If you do not use it, you lose it."
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I had had a piece of dogwood laying around the shop for about five years. Its not a big piece, but then dogwood does not get all that big. It was about 5 1/2-6" in diameter and about 32" long, and had a crack running along it, lengthwise, that reached almost to the center.

Knowing that turning anything out of this (down log) would be "interesting" at best, I decided to fill the crack with epoxy and bright copper flakes. The result was a dark mahogany colored streak with copper flecks in it.

I divided the log into two 5 1/2 x 16 blanks and turned two vases. The first vase was 4 1/2 x 12. The second was 4 1/2 x 14.

As I said, its been awhile since I have been at the lathe, for anything of consequence, and it showed. Catches redefined the shape of both vases, but the second one was more like what I had in mind when I started.

I might add, turning end grain on very dry dogwood is a "tad" different than turning side grain on wet wood, of any kind. ;-)

Two lessons learned:
1) I need to move the lathe (all 560lb of it) to give room for the longer boring bar to be used.
2) Practice, practice, practice. Put another way, "If you do not use it, you lose it."

I have been neglecting my lathe because of shoulder surgery but am
getting back into it. Currently working on two kitchen utensil
holders made from Bradford Pear. Lots of end grain hollowing.
Last fall someone dropped off a section of log about 24 inch
diameter and 4 ft. long. It was white wood and I immediately thought
it was tupelo. The bowl blanks have dried and I finished a couple. I
instantly knew it was not tupelo, but magnolia, from the white and
grey coloring of the dried wood.

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On 5/7/2017 4:14 PM, G Ross wrote:
Dr. Deb wrote:
I had had a piece of dogwood laying around the shop for about five
years. Its not a big piece, but then dogwood does not get all that
big. It was about 5 1/2-6" in diameter and about 32" long, and had a
crack running along it, lengthwise, that reached almost to the center.

Knowing that turning anything out of this (down log) would be
"interesting" at best, I decided to fill the crack with epoxy and
bright copper flakes. The result was a dark mahogany colored streak
with copper flecks in it.

I divided the log into two 5 1/2 x 16 blanks and turned two vases.
The first vase was 4 1/2 x 12. The second was 4 1/2 x 14.

As I said, its been awhile since I have been at the lathe, for
anything of consequence, and it showed. Catches redefined the shape
of both vases, but the second one was more like what I had in mind
when I started.

I might add, turning end grain on very dry dogwood is a "tad"
different than turning side grain on wet wood, of any kind. ;-)

Two lessons learned:
1) I need to move the lathe (all 560lb of it) to give room for the
longer boring bar to be used.
2) Practice, practice, practice. Put another way, "If you do not use
it, you lose it."

I have been neglecting my lathe because of shoulder surgery but am
getting back into it. Currently working on two kitchen utensil holders
made from Bradford Pear. Lots of end grain hollowing.
Last fall someone dropped off a section of log about 24 inch diameter
and 4 ft. long. It was white wood and I immediately thought it was
tupelo. The bowl blanks have dried and I finished a couple. I
instantly knew it was not tupelo, but magnolia, from the white and grey
coloring of the dried wood.

My Uncle Dave Hunt would have turned cowboy hats out of that ! We have
three or so here and they are something else. Beautiful.

Martin
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My Uncle Dave Hunt would have turned cowboy hats out of that ! We have
three or so here and they are something else. Beautiful.

Martin


That sounds neat! Do the rims curve or are they straight?

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On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 8:58:59 PM UTC-5, Martin E wrote:
On 5/7/2017 4:14 PM, G Ross wrote:
Dr. Deb wrote:
I had had a piece of dogwood laying around the shop for about five
years. Its not a big piece, but then dogwood does not get all that
big. It was about 5 1/2-6" in diameter and about 32" long, and had a
crack running along it, lengthwise, that reached almost to the center.

Knowing that turning anything out of this (down log) would be
"interesting" at best, I decided to fill the crack with epoxy and
bright copper flakes. The result was a dark mahogany colored streak
with copper flecks in it.

I divided the log into two 5 1/2 x 16 blanks and turned two vases.
The first vase was 4 1/2 x 12. The second was 4 1/2 x 14.

As I said, its been awhile since I have been at the lathe, for
anything of consequence, and it showed. Catches redefined the shape
of both vases, but the second one was more like what I had in mind
when I started.

I might add, turning end grain on very dry dogwood is a "tad"
different than turning side grain on wet wood, of any kind. ;-)

Two lessons learned:
1) I need to move the lathe (all 560lb of it) to give room for the
longer boring bar to be used.
2) Practice, practice, practice. Put another way, "If you do not use
it, you lose it."

I have been neglecting my lathe because of shoulder surgery but am
getting back into it. Currently working on two kitchen utensil holders
made from Bradford Pear. Lots of end grain hollowing.
Last fall someone dropped off a section of log about 24 inch diameter
and 4 ft. long. It was white wood and I immediately thought it was
tupelo. The bowl blanks have dried and I finished a couple. I
instantly knew it was not tupelo, but magnolia, from the white and grey
coloring of the dried wood.

My Uncle Dave Hunt would have turned cowboy hats out of that ! We have
three or so here and they are something else. Beautiful.

Martin


We had a guy in the woodturner's club I used to attend, who turned cowboy hats out of cherry. Turning the hat is not so amazing. Oh, its a skill test, but several folks can do that. But this guy was demonstrating the turning of a hat, with the light behind the work piece to judge thickness, and when he finished, he had burned in a band on the hat and had a turned up brim.

But that was not the amazing thing. We are sitting there watching him and the light, through the wood is getting brighter, but he is not watching the hat, he is looking at us, as he is pulling shaving and giving the patter for the demonstrating.

Now, THAT, is a wood turner.


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Martin E wrote in newshQPA.95213$ep6.10677
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My Uncle Dave Hunt would have turned cowboy hats out of that ! We have
three or so here and they are something else. Beautiful.

Martin


That sounds neat! Do the rims curve or are they straight?

Puckdropper

You turn the hat Green and shape the rim as it dries. The hats fit the
head within a felt thickness - just fine - Company with the jigs had
specific calculations. Nice is the ones we have are all different wood
and look unique between each other.

I think heat was used in the rim bending into a form.

Martin
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Knowing that turning anything out of this (down log) would be
"interesting" at best, I decided to fill the crack with epoxy and
bright copper flakes. The result was a dark mahogany colored streak
with copper flecks in it.


great idea

have found that turning a resin and wood piece can be tricky as the
resistance to the gouge differs between the materials

want to test out if higher rpm makes it better or worse


longer boring bar to be used. 2) Practice, practice, practice. Put
another way, "If you do not use it, you lose it."


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My Uncle Dave Hunt would have turned cowboy hats out of that ! We
have three or so here and they are something else. Beautiful.


in texas they call them hats hahaha

i guess they may be as comfortable as wooden shoes









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diameter and 4 ft. long. It was white wood and I immediately thought
it was tupelo. The bowl blanks have dried and I finished a couple.
I instantly knew it was not tupelo, but magnolia, from the white and
grey coloring of the dried wood.


think i have some of this

is it slightly oily wood

this stuff i have feels like it is oily

interesting wood








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On 2017-05-07 7:53 AM, Dr. Deb wrote:

2) Practice, practice, practice. Put another way, "If you do not use it, you lose it."

I started turning seriously again last year after a 15 year break during
which my profession took all my time. I know what to do but it's like a
musician practising scales - one must, as you say, practise to keep
one's skills up to par.
This was emphasised to me a couple of weeks ago. I was making a deep
hollow turning through a small hole to make a small urn. I managed to
get a fairly uniform thickness of 2-3mm and was refining the outside
near the base. I had re-ground the fingernail on a 3/8" spindle gouge
and almost immediately got a nasty catch. So as I had enough wood left,
I tried to turn it out whereupon I caught an even nastier one that
consigned the piece of burl to the firewood box.
Graham


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On 2017-05-07 7:53 AM, Dr. Deb wrote:

2) Practice, practice, practice. Put another way, "If you do not use it, you lose it."

I started turning seriously again last year after a 15 year break during
which my profession took all my time. I know what to do but it's like a
musician practising scales - one must, as you say, practise to keep
one's skills up to par.
This was emphasised to me a couple of weeks ago. I was making a deep
hollow turning through a small hole to make a small urn. I managed to
get a fairly uniform thickness of 2-3mm and was refining the outside
near the base. I had re-ground the fingernail on a 3/8" spindle gouge
and almost immediately got a nasty catch. So as I had enough wood left,
I tried to turn it out whereupon I caught an even nastier one that
consigned the piece of burl to the firewood box.
Graham


2-3 mm? That is pretty thin. I might have resorted to the sandpaper gouge at that point.
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On Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 11:48:54 AM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
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My Uncle Dave Hunt would have turned cowboy hats out of that ! We
have three or so here and they are something else. Beautiful.


in texas they call them hats hahaha

i guess they may be as comfortable as wooden shoes


Little different. Your feet bend and twist and turn when walking or even standing. They are kind of like your hands. They bend and twist in all shapes. Your head stays about the same exact shape all the time no matter how you twist and turn your head.
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hollow turning through a small hole to make a small urn. I managed to
get a fairly uniform thickness of 2-3mm and was refining the outside
near the base. I had re-ground the fingernail on a 3/8" spindle gouge
and almost immediately got a nasty catch. So as I had enough wood
left, I tried to turn it out whereupon I caught an even nastier one



there are some good videos of a japanese turner doing thin walled
bowls and the light bulb technique

the technique used is scraping rather than a full frontal gouge








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On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 5:05:40 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
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hollow turning through a small hole to make a small urn. I managed to
get a fairly uniform thickness of 2-3mm and was refining the outside
near the base. I had re-ground the fingernail on a 3/8" spindle gouge
and almost immediately got a nasty catch. So as I had enough wood
left, I tried to turn it out whereupon I caught an even nastier one



there are some good videos of a japanese turner doing thin walled
bowls and the light bulb technique

the technique used is scraping rather than a full frontal gouge


That makes a lot of sense. However, thus guy was wsung a full blown doufe.

I said he is good. :-)
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