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i see so many of these sets for sale on ebay and craigslist

are there numbers available for craftsman sales numbers

they must have sold a lot of these sets

a lot of the ones that come up look new or very lightly used













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On 7/15/2016 11:59 AM, Electric Comet wrote:

i see so many of these sets for sale on ebay and craigslist

are there numbers available for craftsman sales numbers

they must have sold a lot of these sets

a lot of the ones that come up look new or very lightly used

As Richard Raffan wrote in a recent article, buying a cheap
starter kit is never a good idea. Chances are that these
sellers bought a better lathe and better, HSS tools.
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:19:11 -0600, graham wrote:

As Richard Raffan wrote in a recent article, buying a cheap starter kit
is never a good idea.


Well, I don't know if you'd call them cheap or not, but the $80 HSS set
from Harbor Freight is often recommended for beginners. I bought one
many years ago and it's been well worth the money. The handles are ugly
Chinese mystery wood, but that's no problem for a turner :-).

Now the $19 set, that's a different kettle of fish!

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As Richard Raffan wrote in a recent article, buying a cheap
starter kit is never a good idea. Chances are that these
sellers bought a better lathe and better, HSS tools.


most of the sets are older
probably 20 years or more

and someone is buying them so i would guess the older sets are
better than a modern starter set

buyers are paying more than i would pay and i figure that they
are sought after for their quality











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On 7/15/2016 1:38 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:19:11 -0600
graham wrote:

As Richard Raffan wrote in a recent article, buying a cheap
starter kit is never a good idea. Chances are that these
sellers bought a better lathe and better, HSS tools.


most of the sets are older
probably 20 years or more

and someone is buying them so i would guess the older sets are
better than a modern starter set

buyers are paying more than i would pay and i figure that they
are sought after for their quality


A lot, if not all of those older sets are carbon steel. 20 years
ago, those sets sold by Sears would not have been HSS.
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:33:06 +0000 (UTC)
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one many years ago and it's been well worth the money. The handles
are ugly Chinese mystery wood, but that's no problem for a turner :-).


thought the chinese mystery wood came from the usa

but i guess some of it must come from china


so you replaced the handles i take it

i have a cheap chinese set and i like for some things

it heats up horribly fast with dense wood but i can sharpen it
with emory cloth quickly and use it on softer stuff


have not replaced the handles as they are adequate
i glued the metal collars on as they were rattling








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On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:16:25 -0700, Electric Comet wrote:

it heats up horribly fast with dense wood


That doesn't sound like HSS.


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On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 23:08:24 +0000 (UTC)
Larry Blanchard wrote:

That doesn't sound like HSS.


right that was the point it is not hss however i like them in certain
projects

i think better than buying a beginner set is to try out turning with
a lathe of a friend then decide what you want to turn and buy just a
couple of good tools and grow from there


but of course for some it is more about the tools then using the tools

i am somewhat the opposite and that is why the cheap ones are ok

but you have to know their limits






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