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New here, just got my first lathe - a funky old Craftsman, looks like it was
from back in the day when Craftsman tools were still pretty good (I'm a
woodworker and I know whereof I speak).

Round tube, maybe 36", Morse #1, motor sitting behind it with five-position
pulleys and a loosey-goosey belt that you can move easily to adjust the
speed. It doesn't seem to have been abused - the plates and all the decals
are still on it, wonder of wonders, but the belt guard has been removed and
discarded or lost, as you would expect on an old citizen like this.

Came with a miscellaneous selection of turning tools, a few gouges and
skews, a couple parting tools and a scraper or two. Live center, keyed
chuck, arbor for polishing wheels. Pretty well turned out, but no face
plate. We'll go ahead and use it pretty much as-is for a small upcoming
project, but when winter sets in I look forward to sprucing it up.

Here are the numbers. Ring any bells?

Model: 113.23801
Serial: 0219.P0073

Best regards,
Tom

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New here, just got my first lathe - a funky old Craftsman, looks like it
was from back in the day when Craftsman tools were still pretty good
(I'm a woodworker and I know whereof I speak).

Round tube, maybe 36", Morse #1, motor sitting behind it with
five-position pulleys and a loosey-goosey belt that you can move easily
to adjust the speed. It doesn't seem to have been abused - the plates
and all the decals are still on it, wonder of wonders, but the belt
guard has been removed and discarded or lost, as you would expect on an
old citizen like this.

Came with a miscellaneous selection of turning tools, a few gouges and
skews, a couple parting tools and a scraper or two. Live center, keyed
chuck, arbor for polishing wheels. Pretty well turned out, but no face
plate. We'll go ahead and use it pretty much as-is for a small upcoming
project, but when winter sets in I look forward to sprucing it up.

Here are the numbers. Ring any bells?

Model: 113.23801
Serial: 0219.P0073

Best regards,
Tom



I bought one of those exact lathes once for $5 - it's usable for spindle
work but it isn't very rigid. you will find information about it at
lathes.com.uk and you will find folks who like old wood working machines
at www.owwm.org
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tdacon wrote:
New here, just got my first lathe - a funky old Craftsman, looks like it was
from back in the day when Craftsman tools were still pretty good (I'm a
woodworker and I know whereof I speak).

Round tube, maybe 36", Morse #1, motor sitting behind it with five-position
pulleys and a loosey-goosey belt that you can move easily to adjust the
speed. It doesn't seem to have been abused - the plates and all the decals
are still on it, wonder of wonders, but the belt guard has been removed and
discarded or lost, as you would expect on an old citizen like this.

Came with a miscellaneous selection of turning tools, a few gouges and
skews, a couple parting tools and a scraper or two. Live center, keyed
chuck, arbor for polishing wheels. Pretty well turned out, but no face
plate. We'll go ahead and use it pretty much as-is for a small upcoming
project, but when winter sets in I look forward to sprucing it up.

Here are the numbers. Ring any bells?

Model: 113.23801
Serial: 0219.P0073

Best regards,
Tom

Get rid of it--quick, before it's too late! That is the kind of lathe
that got me hooked. Although mine is a Harbor Fright. I still use it
as a buffing machine and do my turning on a bigger machine.


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Welcome to the world of rotary addiction....
My name is Mac and I'm a woodturner...

Good starter lathe, be careful and have fun....



New here, just got my first lathe - a funky old Craftsman, looks like it was
from back in the day when Craftsman tools were still pretty good (I'm a
woodworker and I know whereof I speak).

Round tube, maybe 36", Morse #1, motor sitting behind it with five-position
pulleys and a loosey-goosey belt that you can move easily to adjust the
speed. It doesn't seem to have been abused - the plates and all the decals
are still on it, wonder of wonders, but the belt guard has been removed and
discarded or lost, as you would expect on an old citizen like this.

Came with a miscellaneous selection of turning tools, a few gouges and
skews, a couple parting tools and a scraper or two. Live center, keyed
chuck, arbor for polishing wheels. Pretty well turned out, but no face
plate. We'll go ahead and use it pretty much as-is for a small upcoming
project, but when winter sets in I look forward to sprucing it up.

Here are the numbers. Ring any bells?

Model: 113.23801
Serial: 0219.P0073

Best regards,
Tom

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tdacon wrote:

New here, just got my first lathe - a funky old Craftsman, looks like it
was from back in the day when Craftsman tools were still pretty good

(I'm
a woodworker and I know whereof I speak).

Round tube, maybe 36", Morse #1, motor sitting behind it with
five-position pulleys and a loosey-goosey belt that you can move easily to
adjust the speed. It doesn't seem to have been abused - the plates and all
the decals are still on it, wonder of wonders, but the belt guard has been
removed and discarded or lost, as you would expect on an old citizen like
this.

Came with a miscellaneous selection of turning tools, a few gouges and
skews, a couple parting tools and a scraper or two. Live center, keyed
chuck, arbor for polishing wheels. Pretty well turned out, but no face
plate. We'll go ahead and use it pretty much as-is for a small upcoming
project, but when winter sets in I look forward to sprucing it up.

Here are the numbers. Ring any bells?

Model: 113.23801
Serial: 0219.P0073

Best regards,
Tom


As Mac has said, (and the other two have intimated)
"My name is Deb and I am a woodturner."

It is an addiction, but a wonderful one.

I would agree, your Craftsman is a good place to start. You will do one of
three things with it.

You will decide you do not like turning
You will find you really do not like it but find it valuable and just keep
the Craftsman
But, in all probability, you will become addicted and soon learn that your
Craftsman is limited and start looking around for something bigger and
better. I have two words for you when this symptom hits "Craigs List."

Your Craftsman has a #1 Morris taper, most have a #2. I am not sure of the
threads on the headstock spindle, but 1x8 is common for the midsized lathes
and 1 1/4 x8 for the larger midsize lathes. So go light on buying a chuck
(i.e., shop around) unless it has an insert that allows you to change thread
sizes.

Lastly and MOST IMPORTANTLY. GET A FACE SHIELD

Yes, woodturning clubs are nice, new tools are wonderful, Youtube videos
are great. But a face shield will save you in three ways:

A trip to the dentist to have that stub front tooth pulled
A trip to the plastic surgeon to have that nasty gouge in your face sown up
A trip to the cemetery (No this is not hyperbole - it really happens)

You really, at this point have no idea just how much kenetic energy that
spinning piece of wood has. You will learn "When" (not if) you get your
first major catch (gouge hits wood at wrong angle, wood reacts in an
unpredictable manner), or a piece just flies off. Its very startling to
hear "Thwack" and feel a force against the face shield. (But YOU are okay,
except for needing a new pair of shorts, that is). Imagine that withouit
the face shield.

You do not have to spend a fortune, one from Harbor Freight works just fine.
But get one ASAP,

Deb



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On 8/16/2013 8:43 PM, tdacon wrote:
New here, just got my first lathe - a funky old Craftsman, looks like it
was from back in the day when Craftsman tools were still pretty good
(I'm a woodworker and I know whereof I speak).

Round tube, maybe 36", Morse #1, motor sitting behind it with
five-position pulleys and a loosey-goosey belt that you can move easily
to adjust the speed. It doesn't seem to have been abused - the plates
and all the decals are still on it, wonder of wonders, but the belt
guard has been removed and discarded or lost, as you would expect on an
old citizen like this.

Came with a miscellaneous selection of turning tools, a few gouges and
skews, a couple parting tools and a scraper or two. Live center, keyed
chuck, arbor for polishing wheels. Pretty well turned out, but no face
plate. We'll go ahead and use it pretty much as-is for a small upcoming
project, but when winter sets in I look forward to sprucing it up.

Here are the numbers. Ring any bells?

Model: 113.23801
Serial: 0219.P0073

Best regards,
Tom



I bought one of those exact lathes once for $5 - it's usable for spindle
work but it isn't very rigid. you will find information about it at
lathes.com.uk and you will find folks who like old wood working machines
at www.owwm.org


Fortunately, spindle work is what we bought it for, so this one will work
fine at least for a starter lathe, once it's spiffed up a little.

The lathes.com.uk link seems to be gone, but owwm is a good resource - I
found a couple pictures of lathes with pretty close model numbers.

Tom


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tdacon wrote:

New here, just got my first lathe - a funky old Craftsman, looks like it
was from back in the day when Craftsman tools were still pretty good

(I'm
a woodworker and I know whereof I speak).

Round tube, maybe 36", Morse #1, motor sitting behind it with
five-position pulleys and a loosey-goosey belt that you can move easily to
adjust the speed. It doesn't seem to have been abused - the plates and all
the decals are still on it, wonder of wonders, but the belt guard has been
removed and discarded or lost, as you would expect on an old citizen like
this.

Came with a miscellaneous selection of turning tools, a few gouges and
skews, a couple parting tools and a scraper or two. Live center, keyed
chuck, arbor for polishing wheels. Pretty well turned out, but no face
plate. We'll go ahead and use it pretty much as-is for a small upcoming
project, but when winter sets in I look forward to sprucing it up.

Here are the numbers. Ring any bells?

Model: 113.23801
Serial: 0219.P0073

Best regards,
Tom


As Mac has said, (and the other two have intimated)
"My name is Deb and I am a woodturner."

It is an addiction, but a wonderful one.

I would agree, your Craftsman is a good place to start. You will do one of
three things with it.

You will decide you do not like turning
You will find you really do not like it but find it valuable and just keep
the Craftsman
But, in all probability, you will become addicted and soon learn that your
Craftsman is limited and start looking around for something bigger and
better. I have two words for you when this symptom hits "Craigs List."

Your Craftsman has a #1 Morris taper, most have a #2. I am not sure of the
threads on the headstock spindle, but 1x8 is common for the midsized lathes
and 1 1/4 x8 for the larger midsize lathes. So go light on buying a chuck
(i.e., shop around) unless it has an insert that allows you to change thread
sizes.

Lastly and MOST IMPORTANTLY. GET A FACE SHIELD

Yes, woodturning clubs are nice, new tools are wonderful, Youtube videos
are great. But a face shield will save you in three ways:

A trip to the dentist to have that stub front tooth pulled
A trip to the plastic surgeon to have that nasty gouge in your face sown up
A trip to the cemetery (No this is not hyperbole - it really happens)

You really, at this point have no idea just how much kenetic energy that
spinning piece of wood has. You will learn "When" (not if) you get your
first major catch (gouge hits wood at wrong angle, wood reacts in an
unpredictable manner), or a piece just flies off. Its very startling to
hear "Thwack" and feel a force against the face shield. (But YOU are okay,
except for needing a new pair of shorts, that is). Imagine that withouit
the face shield.

You do not have to spend a fortune, one from Harbor Freight works just fine.
But get one ASAP,

Deb


That sounds like real good advice.

Thanks,
Tom

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Lastly and MOST IMPORTANTLY. GET A FACE SHIELD


Not quite the last - think about how you keep all that wood dust out of
you lungs, it doesn't do you any good in there.

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"." wrote in message ...

On 8/16/2013 8:43 PM, tdacon wrote:
New here, just got my first lathe - a funky old Craftsman, looks like it
was from back in the day when Craftsman tools were still pretty good
(I'm a woodworker and I know whereof I speak).

Round tube, maybe 36", Morse #1, motor sitting behind it with
five-position pulleys and a loosey-goosey belt that you can move easily
to adjust the speed. It doesn't seem to have been abused - the plates
and all the decals are still on it, wonder of wonders, but the belt
guard has been removed and discarded or lost, as you would expect on an
old citizen like this.

Came with a miscellaneous selection of turning tools, a few gouges and
skews, a couple parting tools and a scraper or two. Live center, keyed
chuck, arbor for polishing wheels. Pretty well turned out, but no face
plate. We'll go ahead and use it pretty much as-is for a small upcoming
project, but when winter sets in I look forward to sprucing it up.

Here are the numbers. Ring any bells?

Model: 113.23801
Serial: 0219.P0073

Best regards,
Tom



I bought one of those exact lathes once for $5 - it's usable for spindle
work but it isn't very rigid. you will find information about it at
lathes.com.uk and you will find folks who like old wood working machines
at www.owwm.org


Fortunately, spindle work is what we bought it for, so this one will
work fine at least for a starter lathe, once it's spiffed up a little.

The lathes.com.uk link seems to be gone, but owwm is a good resource - I
found a couple pictures of lathes with pretty close model numbers.

Tom



sorry, no "M" in the link, try this www.lathes.co.uk/
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tdacon wrote:

New here, just got my first lathe - a funky old Craftsman, looks like it
was from back in the day when Craftsman tools were still pretty good

(I'm
a woodworker and I know whereof I speak).

Round tube, maybe 36", Morse #1, motor sitting behind it with
five-position pulleys and a loosey-goosey belt that you can move easily to
adjust the speed. It doesn't seem to have been abused - the plates and all
the decals are still on it, wonder of wonders, but the belt guard has been
removed and discarded or lost, as you would expect on an old citizen like
this.

Came with a miscellaneous selection of turning tools, a few gouges and
skews, a couple parting tools and a scraper or two. Live center, keyed
chuck, arbor for polishing wheels. Pretty well turned out, but no face
plate. We'll go ahead and use it pretty much as-is for a small upcoming
project, but when winter sets in I look forward to sprucing it up.

Here are the numbers. Ring any bells?

Model: 113.23801
Serial: 0219.P0073

Best regards,
Tom


As Mac has said, (and the other two have intimated)
"My name is Deb and I am a woodturner."

It is an addiction, but a wonderful one.

I would agree, your Craftsman is a good place to start. You will do one of
three things with it.

You will decide you do not like turning
You will find you really do not like it but find it valuable and just keep
the Craftsman
But, in all probability, you will become addicted and soon learn that your
Craftsman is limited and start looking around for something bigger and
better. I have two words for you when this symptom hits "Craigs List."

Your Craftsman has a #1 Morris taper, most have a #2. I am not sure of the
threads on the headstock spindle, but 1x8 is common for the midsized lathes
and 1 1/4 x8 for the larger midsize lathes. So go light on buying a chuck
(i.e., shop around) unless it has an insert that allows you to change thread
sizes.

Lastly and MOST IMPORTANTLY. GET A FACE SHIELD

Yes, woodturning clubs are nice, new tools are wonderful, Youtube videos
are great. But a face shield will save you in three ways:

A trip to the dentist to have that stub front tooth pulled
A trip to the plastic surgeon to have that nasty gouge in your face sown up
A trip to the cemetery (No this is not hyperbole - it really happens)

You really, at this point have no idea just how much kenetic energy that
spinning piece of wood has. You will learn "When" (not if) you get your
first major catch (gouge hits wood at wrong angle, wood reacts in an
unpredictable manner), or a piece just flies off. Its very startling to
hear "Thwack" and feel a force against the face shield. (But YOU are okay,
except for needing a new pair of shorts, that is). Imagine that withouit
the face shield.

You do not have to spend a fortune, one from Harbor Freight works just fine.
But get one ASAP,

Deb


That sounds like real good advice.

Thanks,
Tom


As my mentor told me.... "wear eye protection of your next turning
might be a white cane"...
As your other woodworking tools, ride that line between respect and
fear and you'll do far less dumb things (like I seem to do almost
daily)


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Mac Davis wrote:
As my mentor told me.... "wear eye protection of your next turning
might be a white cane"...
As your other woodworking tools, ride that line between respect and
fear and you'll do far less dumb things (like I seem to do almost
daily)


Like Me too!

I was replacing an old gatepost that had ben screwed to a brick wall. Some
of the screws were impossible to remove (rusted in) but I got the rotting
post off the wall and picked up the angle grider to hack off the
projecting screws. I had to remove the guard to get in close.

Next job, a while later, was taking some length off the "hardened
stainless steel" bar of a digital readout and I hadn't got round to
putting the guard back on. I now have a deep, slowly healing, gash in the
left edge of my left hand!

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In article ,
Mac Davis wrote:
As my mentor told me.... "wear eye protection of your next turning
might be a white cane"...
As your other woodworking tools, ride that line between respect and
fear and you'll do far less dumb things (like I seem to do almost
daily)


Like Me too!

I was replacing an old gatepost that had ben screwed to a brick wall. Some
of the screws were impossible to remove (rusted in) but I got the rotting
post off the wall and picked up the angle grider to hack off the
projecting screws. I had to remove the guard to get in close.

Next job, a while later, was taking some length off the "hardened
stainless steel" bar of a digital readout and I hadn't got round to
putting the guard back on. I now have a deep, slowly healing, gash in the
left edge of my left hand!


OUCH!

I usually do things like knowing not to reach across the lathe to
adjust something and doing it anyway... usually getting a good rap on
the knuckles, expecially by wing bowls...
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On 8/16/2013 8:43 PM, tdacon wrote:
New here, just got my first lathe - a funky old Craftsman, looks like it
was from back in the day when Craftsman tools were still pretty good
(I'm a woodworker and I know whereof I speak).

Round tube, maybe 36", Morse #1, motor sitting behind it with
five-position pulleys and a loosey-goosey belt that you can move easily
to adjust the speed. It doesn't seem to have been abused - the plates
and all the decals are still on it, wonder of wonders, but the belt
guard has been removed and discarded or lost, as you would expect on an
old citizen like this.

Came with a miscellaneous selection of turning tools, a few gouges and
skews, a couple parting tools and a scraper or two. Live center, keyed
chuck, arbor for polishing wheels. Pretty well turned out, but no face
plate. We'll go ahead and use it pretty much as-is for a small upcoming
project, but when winter sets in I look forward to sprucing it up.

Here are the numbers. Ring any bells?

Model: 113.23801
Serial: 0219.P0073

Best regards,
Tom



I bought one of those exact lathes once for $5 - it's usable for spindle
work but it isn't very rigid. you will find information about it at
lathes.com.uk and you will find folks who like old wood working machines
at www.owwm.org


Fortunately, spindle work is what we bought it for, so this one will work
fine at least for a starter lathe, once it's spiffed up a little.

The lathes.com.uk link seems to be gone, but owwm is a good resource - I
found a couple pictures of lathes with pretty close model numbers.

Tom

I have a face plate I believe 3/4" thread belonged to my dad possibly
shop smith. My Lathe is 1 1/8 and I have a face plate so if it would
work shipping cost would cover it. Sent an e-mail

Mike M
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I have a face plate I believe 3/4" thread belonged to my dad possibly
shop smith. My Lathe is 1 1/8 and I have a face plate so if it would
work shipping cost would cover it. Sent an e-mail


Thanks for the offer, Mike. I'll take a look at it and see what the threads
are.

Tom

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I have a face plate I believe 3/4" thread belonged to my dad possibly
shop smith. My Lathe is 1 1/8 and I have a face plate so if it would
work shipping cost would cover it. Sent an e-mail


Mike, I checked the threads on the headstock and it's 3/4 x 16. If that's
what your face plate is we've got a deal. Email me offline please and I'll
give you the address and mail you a check if you know what the shipping
would be.

Thanks,
Tom



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I have a face plate I believe 3/4" thread belonged to my dad possibly
shop smith. My Lathe is 1 1/8 and I have a face plate so if it would
work shipping cost would cover it. Sent an e-mail


Mike, I checked the threads on the headstock and it's 3/4 x 16. If that's
what your face plate is we've got a deal. Email me offline please and I'll
give you the address and mail you a check if you know what the shipping
would be.

Thanks,
Tom


Apparently came up with the wrong e-mail, I've tried again.
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Apparently came up with the wrong e-mail, I've tried again.

Got it this time, Mike. Answer on the way.

Tom

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I have a face plate I believe 3/4" thread belonged to my dad possibly
shop smith. My Lathe is 1 1/8 and I have a face plate so if it would
work shipping cost would cover it. Sent an e-mail


Mike, I checked the threads on the headstock and it's 3/4 x 16. If
that's what your face plate is we've got a deal. Email me offline please
and I'll give you the address and mail you a check if you know what the
shipping would be.

Thanks,
Tom


if you find you need more faceplates, visit my site, www.wbnoble.com and
click on faceplates - I try to make them as inexpensively as I can for
those in the hobby - I make a little, it pays for the tooling but mostly
I make them for the fun of making them.
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Mike, I've submitted my application for permission to reply to your email.
Here's hoping that you will approve my request.

Tom


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"Mike M" wrote in message
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I have a face plate I believe 3/4" thread belonged to my dad possibly
shop smith. My Lathe is 1 1/8 and I have a face plate so if it would
work shipping cost would cover it. Sent an e-mail


Mike, I checked the threads on the headstock and it's 3/4 x 16. If that's
what your face plate is we've got a deal. Email me offline please and I'll
give you the address and mail you a check if you know what the shipping
would be.

Thanks,
Tom


Apparently came up with the wrong e-mail, I've tried again.

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New here, just got my first lathe - a funky old Craftsman, looks like it was
from back in the day when Craftsman tools were still pretty good (I'm a
woodworker and I know whereof I speak).

Round tube, maybe 36", Morse #1, motor sitting behind it with five-position
pulleys and a loosey-goosey belt that you can move easily to adjust the
speed. It doesn't seem to have been abused - the plates and all the decals
are still on it, wonder of wonders, but the belt guard has been removed and
discarded or lost, as you would expect on an old citizen like this.

Came with a miscellaneous selection of turning tools, a few gouges and
skews, a couple parting tools and a scraper or two. Live center, keyed
chuck, arbor for polishing wheels. Pretty well turned out, but no face
plate. We'll go ahead and use it pretty much as-is for a small upcoming
project, but when winter sets in I look forward to sprucing it up.

Here are the numbers. Ring any bells?

Model: 113.23801
Serial: 0219.P0073

Best regards,
Tom


I had this same lathe many years ago. Still have the chisels that I got with
it. Am addicted worse than ever to turning, thanks to this lathe. You will
like it, learn from it, and want a better one eventually. Good for spindle
work. You can manage some faceplate work with it, too, but slowly.
tom koehler


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Thanks, folks, for all your encouragement and help. I'm waiting impatiently
for some free time to clean it up and tune it up and start cutting wood.

Tom

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