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I got three sections of a tree from my BIL who got it from someone
else. The original cutter told him it was "either mulberry or Bois d'arc". There were no leaves attached and the bark was all grunged up with vines. How to tell the difference? It is orange/yellow wood. It seems like I've heard that mulberry is associated with an unpleasant smell when being turned. There is no smell on this. Any pointers? -- GW Ross The trouble with not having a job is that you can't take a day off! |
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"G. Ross" wrote: I got three sections of a tree from my BIL who got it from someone else. The original cutter told him it was "either mulberry or Bois d'arc". There were no leaves attached and the bark was all grunged up with vines. How to tell the difference? It is orange/yellow wood. It seems like I've heard that mulberry is associated with an unpleasant smell when being turned. There is no smell on this. Any pointers? Mulberry cuts and scrapes well. The 2 pieces of Bois d'arc that I turned did NOT like to be scraped. I don't remember any odor with either, but it has been a while since I turned either. |
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:38:26 -0400, G. Ross wrote:
How to tell the difference? It is orange/yellow wood. It seems like I've heard that mulberry is associated with an unpleasant smell when being turned. There is no smell on this. I found the following at: http://www.wood-database.com "One helpful characteristic that can help separate it from lookalikes such as Mulberry or Black Locust (besides being heavier) is that Osage Orange contains a water-soluble yellow dye, so putting shavings into water will turn the water yellow." Next time, Google before asking :-). -- When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross. |
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Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:38:26 -0400, G. Ross wrote: How to tell the difference? It is orange/yellow wood. It seems like I've heard that mulberry is associated with an unpleasant smell when being turned. There is no smell on this. I found the following at: http://www.wood-database.com "One helpful characteristic that can help separate it from lookalikes such as Mulberry or Black Locust (besides being heavier) is that Osage Orange contains a water-soluble yellow dye, so putting shavings into water will turn the water yellow." Next time, Google before asking :-). I refuse to use Google. However, I found that same article and have put some shavings in a plastic bowl with water. Guess I will know in the A.M. -- GW Ross The trouble with not having a job is that you can't take a day off! |
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On 6/17/2013 8:24 PM, G. Ross wrote:
Larry Blanchard wrote: On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:38:26 -0400, G. Ross wrote: How to tell the difference? It is orange/yellow wood. It seems like I've heard that mulberry is associated with an unpleasant smell when being turned. There is no smell on this. I found the following at: http://www.wood-database.com "One helpful characteristic that can help separate it from lookalikes such as Mulberry or Black Locust (besides being heavier) is that Osage Orange contains a water-soluble yellow dye, so putting shavings into water will turn the water yellow." Next time, Google before asking :-). I refuse to use Google. However, I found that same article and have put some shavings in a plastic bowl with water. Guess I will know in the A.M. Yeah it doesn't hurt to talk a little here. Do we want all talk of turning to be replaced by googling? Sometimes it is nice to communicate with a human. |
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:38:26 -0400, "G. Ross"
wrote: I got three sections of a tree from my BIL who got it from someone else. The original cutter told him it was "either mulberry or Bois d'arc". There were no leaves attached and the bark was all grunged up with vines. How to tell the difference? It is orange/yellow wood. It seems like I've heard that mulberry is associated with an unpleasant smell when being turned. There is no smell on this. Any pointers? I turned several mulberry bowls a few years ago... Cream colored wood with nice yellow highlights... No idea what Bois d'arc is... |
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On 06/17/2013 11:06 PM, Mac Davis wrote:
No idea what Bois d'arc is... Maclura pomifera, commonly called Osage orange, hedge apple, horse apple, bois d'arc, bodark, or bodock. The name "bois d'arc" is thought to come from French explorers who saw the native Americans using it for their bows, i.e. "bow wood". We had some growing on the farm where I grew up. |
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:31:14 -0400, asdfasdf wrote:
Yeah it doesn't hurt to talk a little here. Do we want all talk of turning to be replaced by googling? Sometimes it is nice to communicate with a human. That's hilarious. The OP asked a question he could easily have found the answer to, I responded to his query and suggested a more efficient method of finding answers, and you say there was no human communication? BTW, was the article I quoted written by a non-human? And if "asdfasdf" is the name of a real human, his/her parents should be shot :-). I, and most others on this forum, use real names. I have no desire to get involved in a flame war, so I'll ignore any further posts on this subject. -- When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross. |
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On 06/17/2013 06:31 PM, asdfasdf wrote:
Yeah it doesn't hurt to talk a little here. Do we want all talk of turning to be replaced by googling? Sometimes it is nice to communicate with a human. My thoughts exactly. That's what the group is here for - asking and sharing among fellow woodturners. Used to be that the you knew all sorts of things about the other folks that post here, and not necessarily related to turning - you actually had cyber friends. I miss that... ....Kevin -- Kevin Miller Juneau, Alaska http://www.alaska.net/~atftb "In the history of the world, no one has ever washed a rented car." - Lawrence Summers |
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G. Ross wrote:
I got three sections of a tree from my BIL who got it from someone else. The original cutter told him it was "either mulberry or Bois d'arc". There were no leaves attached and the bark was all grunged up with vines. How to tell the difference? It is orange/yellow wood. It seems like I've heard that mulberry is associated with an unpleasant smell when being turned. There is no smell on this. Any pointers? There was no yellow color in the water with shavings in it overnight, so I am calling it mulberry. It is wet, but it dulls my tools faster than most woods. And no, I am not in the market for a carbide tool. -- GW Ross The trouble with not having a job is that you can't take a day off! |
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On 06/18/2013 08:49 AM, G. Ross wrote:
G. Ross wrote: I got three sections of a tree from my BIL who got it from someone else. The original cutter told him it was "either mulberry or Bois d'arc". There were no leaves attached and the bark was all grunged up with vines. How to tell the difference? It is orange/yellow wood. It seems like I've heard that mulberry is associated with an unpleasant smell when being turned. There is no smell on this. Any pointers? There was no yellow color in the water with shavings in it overnight, so I am calling it mulberry. It is wet, but it dulls my tools faster than most woods. And no, I am not in the market for a carbide tool. I've never turned it, but I've heard that the Bois d'arc is really hard. No idea about mulberry. Can you post any photos in alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking? Be interesting to see the wood... -- Kevin Miller Juneau, Alaska http://www.alaska.net/~atftb "In the history of the world, no one has ever washed a rented car." - Lawrence Summers |
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Kevin Miller wrote:
On 06/18/2013 08:49 AM, G. Ross wrote: G. Ross wrote: I got three sections of a tree from my BIL who got it from someone else. The original cutter told him it was "either mulberry or Bois d'arc". There were no leaves attached and the bark was all grunged up with vines. How to tell the difference? It is orange/yellow wood. It seems like I've heard that mulberry is associated with an unpleasant smell when being turned. There is no smell on this. Any pointers? There was no yellow color in the water with shavings in it overnight, so I am calling it mulberry. It is wet, but it dulls my tools faster than most woods. And no, I am not in the market for a carbide tool. I've never turned it, but I've heard that the Bois d'arc is really hard. No idea about mulberry. Can you post any photos in alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking? Be interesting to see the wood... Done! -- GW Ross The trouble with not having a job is that you can't take a day off! |
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G. Ross wrote:
Kevin Miller wrote: On 06/18/2013 08:49 AM, G. Ross wrote: G. Ross wrote: I got three sections of a tree from my BIL who got it from someone else. The original cutter told him it was "either mulberry or Bois d'arc". There were no leaves attached and the bark was all grunged up with vines. How to tell the difference? It is orange/yellow wood. It seems like I've heard that mulberry is associated with an unpleasant smell when being turned. There is no smell on this. Any pointers? There was no yellow color in the water with shavings in it overnight, so I am calling it mulberry. It is wet, but it dulls my tools faster than most woods. And no, I am not in the market for a carbide tool. I've never turned it, but I've heard that the Bois d'arc is really hard. No idea about mulberry. Can you post any photos in alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking? Be interesting to see the wood... Done! Well, I sent it but don't see it. If it doesn't make it by morning will re-send. -- GW Ross The trouble with not having a job is that you can't take a day off! |
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On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:32:24 -0700, Whirled Peas
wrote: On 06/17/2013 11:06 PM, Mac Davis wrote: No idea what Bois d'arc is... Maclura pomifera, commonly called Osage orange, hedge apple, horse apple, bois d'arc, bodark, or bodock. The name "bois d'arc" is thought to come from French explorers who saw the native Americans using it for their bows, i.e. "bow wood". We had some growing on the farm where I grew up. Ahhh..... I'm familiar with osage orange... thanks! |
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On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:51:47 -0400, "G. Ross"
wrote: G. Ross wrote: Kevin Miller wrote: On 06/18/2013 08:49 AM, G. Ross wrote: G. Ross wrote: I got three sections of a tree from my BIL who got it from someone else. The original cutter told him it was "either mulberry or Bois d'arc". There were no leaves attached and the bark was all grunged up with vines. How to tell the difference? It is orange/yellow wood. It seems like I've heard that mulberry is associated with an unpleasant smell when being turned. There is no smell on this. Any pointers? There was no yellow color in the water with shavings in it overnight, so I am calling it mulberry. It is wet, but it dulls my tools faster than most woods. And no, I am not in the market for a carbide tool. I've never turned it, but I've heard that the Bois d'arc is really hard. No idea about mulberry. Can you post any photos in alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking? Be interesting to see the wood... Done! Well, I sent it but don't see it. If it doesn't make it by morning will re-send. You might consider getting on facebook, Gerald... Makes a nice addition to newsgroups and easy to share pictures... |
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On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:51:47 -0400, "G. wrote: G. Ross wrote: Kevin Miller wrote: On 06/18/2013 08:49 AM, G. Ross wrote: G. Ross wrote: I got three sections of a tree from my BIL who got it from someone else. The original cutter told him it was "either mulberry or Bois d'arc". There were no leaves attached and the bark was all grunged up with vines. How to tell the difference? It is orange/yellow wood. It seems like I've heard that mulberry is associated with an unpleasant smell when being turned. There is no smell on this. Any pointers? There was no yellow color in the water with shavings in it overnight, so I am calling it mulberry. It is wet, but it dulls my tools faster than most woods. And no, I am not in the market for a carbide tool. I've never turned it, but I've heard that the Bois d'arc is really hard. No idea about mulberry. Can you post any photos in alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking? Be interesting to see the wood... Done! Well, I sent it but don't see it. If it doesn't make it by morning will re-send. You might consider getting on facebook, Gerald... Makes a nice addition to newsgroups and easy to share pictures... I tried it once. Couldn't face Facebook. -- GW Ross It worked! Now if only I could remember what I did! The Doctor |
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mmunications: On 06/18/2013 08:49 AM, G. Ross wrote: G. Ross wrote: I got three sections of a tree from my BIL who got it from someone else. The original cutter told him it was "either mulberry or Bois d'arc". There were no leaves attached and the bark was all grunged up with vines. How to tell the difference? It is orange/yellow wood. It seems like I've heard that mulberry is associated with an unpleasant smell when being turned. There is no smell on this. Any pointers? There was no yellow color in the water with shavings in it overnight, so I am calling it mulberry. It is wet, but it dulls my tools faster than most woods. And no, I am not in the market for a carbide tool. I've never turned it, but I've heard that the Bois d'arc is really hard. It is. No idea about mulberry. Not nearly as hard as Bois d'arc / Osage orange. |
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"G. Ross" wrote: G. Ross wrote: I got three sections of a tree from my BIL who got it from someone else. The original cutter told him it was "either mulberry or Bois d'arc". There were no leaves attached and the bark was all grunged up with vines. How to tell the difference? It is orange/yellow wood. It seems like I've heard that mulberry is associated with an unpleasant smell when being turned. There is no smell on this. Any pointers? There was no yellow color in the water with shavings in it overnight, so I am calling it mulberry. It is wet, but it dulls my tools faster than most woods. And no, I am not in the market for a carbide tool. Certainly -not- Bois (Osage) -- -------------------------------------------------------- Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read RV and Camping FAQ can be found at http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv |
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On 06/18/2013 01:51 PM, G. Ross wrote:
snip Well, I sent it but don't see it. If it doesn't make it by morning will re-send. Then 2nd try turned up. I've never seen mulberry so have no idea if that's what it is, but Bois d'arc is bright orange when fresh so it's likely not that. ....Kevin -- Kevin Miller Juneau, Alaska http://www.alaska.net/~atftb "In the history of the world, no one has ever washed a rented car." - Lawrence Summers |
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