Supernova 2 chuck
 

Hey I just saw a new Supernova chuck They call it a Supernova 2. Looks
like a Supernova but closed back and the key of a new Titan chuck. Is
this for real? If it is it seems that the main complaint about the
Supernova has been answered (the key). There is nothing on Teknatools
site. Heres the web site I found it at. No affiliation, just curious.
http://au.store.yahoo.com/cws-store/novsupsupchu.html

Guy

Supernova 2 chuck
 

Ah, I'm not sure Teknatool had wished for this to be advertized yet, at
least for the eyes of the NA market. It will be a short while longer
before it appears in the US. But yes, I hope I won't be considered out
of line for confirming it is for real, and IMO a quite exciting
development. The Titan is great, but too big for many smaller lathes.
This will now bring the Titan design to a moderately sized chuck.
Lyn

guy wrote:
Hey I just saw a new Supernova chuck They call it a Supernova 2. Looks
like a Supernova but closed back and the key of a new Titan chuck. Is
this for real? If it is it seems that the main complaint about the
Supernova has been answered (the key). There is nothing on Teknatools
site. Heres the web site I found it at. No affiliation, just curious.
http://au.store.yahoo.com/cws-store/novsupsupchu.html

Guy

Supernova 2 chuck
 

Is this the chuck they should have designed and marketed in the first place,
instead of what they have been selling for these past few years? If this is
eventually sold in N.A., And I lay out the $'s for it because this improved
chuck operates better and is the one that I should have bought in the first
place, what do I do with my old Super Nova? give it away? Will the Nova
dealers take it as a trade-in?
I am getting tired of buying Teknatools' upgrades that are supposed to
improve the chucks and lathes that were not designed or made well in the
first place.

Supernova 2 chuck
 

"edward tabachek" skrev i melding
...
Is this the chuck they should have designed and marketed in the first
place,
instead of what they have been selling for these past few years? If this
is
eventually sold in N.A., And I lay out the $'s for it because this
improved
chuck operates better and is the one that I should have bought in the
first
place, what do I do with my old Super Nova? give it away? Will the Nova
dealers take it as a trade-in?
I am getting tired of buying Teknatools' upgrades that are supposed to
improve the chucks and lathes that were not designed or made well in the
first place.

How old is your car?
Are you tired of the constant upgrades
since you bought your latest, too?

Bjarte

Supernova 2 chuck
 

Sell it to someone who doesn't care about what you consider shortcomings.

That's how I got my second standard NOVA.

"edward tabachek" wrote in message
...
Is this the chuck they should have designed and marketed in the first
place,
instead of what they have been selling for these past few years? If this
is
eventually sold in N.A., And I lay out the $'s for it because this
improved
chuck operates better and is the one that I should have bought in the
first
place, what do I do with my old Super Nova? give it away? Will the Nova
dealers take it as a trade-in?
I am getting tired of buying Teknatools' upgrades that are supposed to
improve the chucks and lathes that were not designed or made well in the
first place.

Supernova 2 chuck
 

"Bjarte Runderheim" wrote in message

"edward tabachek" skrev i melding

I am getting tired of buying Teknatools' upgrades that are supposed to
improve the chucks and lathes that were not designed or made well in the
first place.

How old is your car?
Are you tired of the constant upgrades
since you bought your latest, too?

I was going to make the same analogy with respect to computers, TVs or any
other piece of electronic gear, but you beat me to it. The car analogy is
appropriate.

Max

Supernova 2 chuck
 

The car dealer will allow me to trade in my old, out of date model on the
new and improved model. Teknatool retailers are not interested in buying
and selling used stuff, they do not have a buy-back program.
BTW, I bought the 5" Delux Super Nova because it seemed to be everything the
Nova was not. The ink was not yet dry on my cheque to the CC company when I
read that the Jaw slides were upgraded to a 3- hole pattern and the chuck
was renamed "The TITAN". My Teknatool retailer has yet to receive
information about this improvement from Teknatool. Maybe he wants to
sell-off his existing stock of Super Nova Delux (Titan) chucks before
bringing out the new and improved ones.
I just don't recall Oneway or Vicmarc having to upgrade or improve their
products (chucks or live centers) after releasing them to the retail market.

Supernova 2 chuck
 

To my knowledge, the large Teknatool chuck was always conceived of as a
three screw jaw chuck, but some 5 inch versions were made available
early on in a two screw design and specifically given the name SuperNova
Deluxe. Given that only 2 hole jaw sets that were available at that time
(and even now, there is only one 3 hole jaw set available at this time),
it allowed folks (like you) to have the other functional advantages of
the new larger chuck immediately by using a current style of jaw while
the final specifications were worked out for the 3 screw/3 hole
interface. The 2 screw Supernova Deluxe is still sold under that name
and available in Britain.


Teknatool early on sent out a "Notification of Improvement to
Product/shange Specification" notice (note this appears to be a standard
title for this type of report to dealers), that described how the new
Titan chuck would be coming and allowed dealers not only to inform
potential and past customers,but also to obtain a discount price on
upgrading the jaw sets to 3 hole. I imagine you qualify, should you
dealer wish to pass it on, for the discounted jaw sets. Personally, I
think you should consider that many early adapters you had the added
function of the SuperNova Deluxe for a number of months prior to when a
Titan version could even have been available. Though you didn't have
this added function for such a long period of time, it is more an issue
with your dealer who did have advance notice of the upcoming change and
either didn't care to inform you (of course, if you made a relatively
anonymous web order, do you really think he should have held up your
order to give you all the particulars of what might happen in the
future), or remains ignorant of it despite its common availability (I
can email you a pdf of it if you like). It seems naive to believe that
any dealer doesn't need to sell off remaining inventory.

So, you have the opportunity to simply replace your slides with the new
ones (and still have your old ones in reserve), and likely at a
discount. If your dealer isn't helping you with this in a timely
fashion, then why not simply contact Teknatool directly, as they usually
are quite happy to provide parts directly to their customers.

There are many changes that take place in woodturning products, and most
of them are introduced silently and without the abilty for upgrade.
Teknatool is actually rather exemplary in this regards in that it
regularly announces changes, often seeks to offer some upgrade path,and
occasionally will pull items from the market for a period of time when a
major revision is in the works.

Finally, the shot about Oneway and Vicmark again seems naive to me given
what I know has happened with products from both companies (and I don't
necessarily fault them for these changes and modifications, either).
Just as an example, presented on this very newsgroup not long ago, was
the report of a person with an older Oneway Stronghold whose actuation
lever broke and he was in need of a replacement. In the meantime Oneway
had changed gearing and the actuation lever on the Stronghold and no
longer makes the older style, nor did they retain inventory of the old
style. The Stronghold owner was now potentially without use of a very
expensive chuck unless he could obtain a used lever from some generous
private turner. Now I don't necessarily fault Oneway in this, progress
needs to take place and manufacturing changes sometimes are unavoidable,
but comparing your situation with the Supernova Deluxe, and this
situation with the Stronghold (and keep in mind, the Stronghold change
could have been made days after he bought his older version too) IMO
makes Teknatool look pretty good.

Lyn

edward tabachek wrote:
The car dealer will allow me to trade in my old, out of date model on the
new and improved model. Teknatool retailers are not interested in buying
and selling used stuff, they do not have a buy-back program.
BTW, I bought the 5" Delux Super Nova because it seemed to be everything the
Nova was not. The ink was not yet dry on my cheque to the CC company when I
read that the Jaw slides were upgraded to a 3- hole pattern and the chuck
was renamed "The TITAN". My Teknatool retailer has yet to receive
information about this improvement from Teknatool. Maybe he wants to
sell-off his existing stock of Super Nova Delux (Titan) chucks before
bringing out the new and improved ones.
I just don't recall Oneway or Vicmarc having to upgrade or improve their
products (chucks or live centers) after releasing them to the retail market.

Supernova 2 chuck
 

So...are you complaining because manufactures don't come out with a
"perfect" product right off the bat, or because they don't offer
trade-ins? Other than vehicles, not many manufacturers offer a trade-in
program. And it's mostly a convienience...you can usually get more by
going to the trouble of selling it yourself.

If you're happy with the product and it does what you want, what does it
matter that a newer version is coming out? And if you're not happy, you
should've returned it.

If you do decide to upgrade, and decide to sell your current one, let me
know (provided it has a 1x8 thread). I could use another chuck. Ebay
is another alternative if you decide to sell it.

randy

edward tabachek wrote:
The car dealer will allow me to trade in my old, out of date model on the
new and improved model. Teknatool retailers are not interested in buying
and selling used stuff, they do not have a buy-back program.
BTW, I bought the 5" Delux Super Nova because it seemed to be everything the
Nova was not. The ink was not yet dry on my cheque to the CC company when I
read that the Jaw slides were upgraded to a 3- hole pattern and the chuck
was renamed "The TITAN". My Teknatool retailer has yet to receive
information about this improvement from Teknatool. Maybe he wants to
sell-off his existing stock of Super Nova Delux (Titan) chucks before
bringing out the new and improved ones.
I just don't recall Oneway or Vicmarc having to upgrade or improve their
products (chucks or live centers) after releasing them to the retail market.

Supernova 2 chuck
 

you want a way to trade in your chuck? what most of us do is offer an item
for sale, for example, on this NG, and someone who feels it meets their
needs will usually buy it. As with cars, a fair price for a good condition,
recent item is half to 1/3 of its new price.


"edward tabachek" wrote in message
...
The car dealer will allow me to trade in my old, out of date model on the
new and improved model. Teknatool retailers are not interested in buying
and selling used stuff, they do not have a buy-back program.
BTW, I bought the 5" Delux Super Nova because it seemed to be everything
the
Nova was not. The ink was not yet dry on my cheque to the CC company when
I
read that the Jaw slides were upgraded to a 3- hole pattern and the chuck
was renamed "The TITAN". My Teknatool retailer has yet to receive
information about this improvement from Teknatool. Maybe he wants to
sell-off his existing stock of Super Nova Delux (Titan) chucks before
bringing out the new and improved ones.
I just don't recall Oneway or Vicmarc having to upgrade or improve their
products (chucks or live centers) after releasing them to the retail
market.

Supernova 2 chuck
 

That whole Super Nova Deluxe/Titan, 2-hole/3-hole thing is way too confusing
for the buying public to keep track of. And why should we. It still remains
that my dealer says that he has not heard about any 3-hole slides and he
does not have any info about upgrades. Discount? Phoey, These slides should
be sent to chuck owners gratis. My dealer should have a record of my
purchase.
BTW, Oneway Will replace the old Stronghold gearing with the new improved
one; the chuck has to go back to the factory though. An unfortunate expense
but the owner can have it repaired and upgraded at the same time.
I am not a naive woodturner. I have been at this for many, many years and I
have found that many times I know more about the products used in this
hobby.. er.. business than the clerks who are paid to purvey these same
products. It is a good thing that we have the internet and this list and
your writings Lyn, to keep abreast of problems and improvements.
I have bought many Teknatool products, later to find that the short comings
have been improved. I, for example, had to pay for an improved chuck key
because the original one performed like someone with erectile dysfunction.
A fellow turner, fed-up with the floppy around key, modified his chuck with
a wooden collar to help guide the key into place. We should not have to
customize these products or go looking for upgrades to get them to work
well,as they should have in the first place
This has been my experience and I think my opinions are valid. Thanks for
listening.

Lyn, I would appreciate receiving the "pdf" the Deluxe jaws upgrade

Supernova 2 chuck
 

That's what ebay is for. With a good ad you may well get all your money
back, considering the number of nitwit ebayers. Of course, whining can be
good for the soul, but not much else.

--
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com/woodshop


"edward tabachek" wrote in message
...
Is this the chuck they should have designed and marketed in the first
place,
instead of what they have been selling for these past few years? If this
is
eventually sold in N.A., And I lay out the $'s for it because this
improved
chuck operates better and is the one that I should have bought in the
first
place, what do I do with my old Super Nova? give it away? Will the Nova
dealers take it as a trade-in?
I am getting tired of buying Teknatools' upgrades that are supposed to
improve the chucks and lathes that were not designed or made well in the
first place.

Supernova 2 chuck
 

Hello Bill
Yes whining has helped my outlook. I will go to my sho...er studio and do
some work with my Super Nova this afternoon.
Thank for listening everybody.
Edward
"

Supernova 2 chuck
 

Hey, I asked first!

"Randy Rhine" wrote in message
...

If you do decide to upgrade, and decide to sell your current one, let me
know (provided it has a 1x8 thread). I could use another chuck. Ebay
is another alternative if you decide to sell it.