This may be a bit off topic, but I use a digital camera to photograph my
work. I am looking at purchasing a photo editing program to enhance those
not-so-great shots. Does anyone have any advice on either of the above
programs? Thanks.

Barry

not first hand no, but try asking around on the places that people use such
things.
zbrushcentral.com, sort of OT for there, but they are very helpful if you
word it right.
overall, I've used elements, real photoshop can be good, but it has a lot of
stuff you don't really need. and elements is kind of confusing. I do like
most of Corel's products, adobe's can be good, but very confusing. Id
actually suggest looking at
A)Photosoap, I had a demo of that, and it seems geared to exactly what you
are trying to do
if you have linux, try tucows.com, many of the free programs are good,
with linux, unix, or mac os GIMP is very good, and the price is
excellent(free)
with windows, try photosoap, if you are looking to spend money, or even an
older version of paint shop, often can be found at second hand computer
places, or trading places.
"Barry N. Turner" wrote in message
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This may be a bit off topic, but I use a digital camera to photograph my
work. I am looking at purchasing a photo editing program to enhance those
not-so-great shots. Does anyone have any advice on either of the above
programs? Thanks.

Barry

In article dfN9c.39193$QO2.4771@pd7tw1no, says...
not first hand no, but try asking around on the places that people use such
things.
zbrushcentral.com, sort of OT for there, but they are very helpful if you
word it right.
overall, I've used elements, real photoshop can be good, but it has a lot of
stuff you don't really need. and elements is kind of confusing. I do like
most of Corel's products, adobe's can be good, but very confusing. Id
actually suggest looking at
A)Photosoap, I had a demo of that, and it seems geared to exactly what you
are trying to do
if you have linux, try tucows.com, many of the free programs are good,
with linux, unix, or mac os GIMP is very good, and the price is
excellent(free)
with windows, try photosoap, if you are looking to spend money, or even an
older version of paint shop, often can be found at second hand computer
places, or trading places.
"Barry N. Turner" wrote in message
. ..
This may be a bit off topic, but I use a digital camera to photograph my
work. I am looking at purchasing a photo editing program to enhance those
not-so-great shots. Does anyone have any advice on either of the above
programs? Thanks.

Barry





Gimp is also available for windows. The user interface is a little strange
because of the multi-system nature of the program but it would appear if you can
get through the learning curve (I'm part-way through) it can do anything the
other programs can do. http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/ is a very comprehensive and
freely downloadable book on using the program.

Bill

Try downloading the demos first. I had photoshop elements which is quite
good.
http://www.adobe.com/products/tryado...jsp#product=40

Can't say about the other

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"Barry N. Turner" wrote in message
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This may be a bit off topic, but I use a digital camera to photograph my
work. I am looking at purchasing a photo editing program to enhance those
not-so-great shots. Does anyone have any advice on either of the above
programs? Thanks.

Barry

I have used Paintshop Pro only very briefly, but Photoshop Elements 2 a lot,
and it is excellent. I work on images for printing and sale, and I find it
does everything I need - I simply don't need the full version of Photoshop.
I'd be surprised if it didn't do all you need too, and the best thing is
that it comes free with some imaging hardware - I think ours came with our
little $200 Canon scanner.

"Barry N. Turner" wrote in message
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This may be a bit off topic, but I use a digital camera to photograph my
work. I am looking at purchasing a photo editing program to enhance those
not-so-great shots. Does anyone have any advice on either of the above
programs? Thanks.

Barry

"Barry N. Turner" wrote in message
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This may be a bit off topic, but I use a digital camera to photograph my
work. I am looking at purchasing a photo editing program to enhance those
not-so-great shots. Does anyone have any advice on either of the above
programs? Thanks.

Barry


Barry,
I use Paintshop Pro 8 and it is a great product at a very reasonable cost
especially if you compare it to the full Adobe Photoshop. It takes a while
to get comfortable with using these programs if you haven't done that kind
of work before but there are plenty of "automatic" corrections in PSP to
make it easy for the average problems. I haven't used Elements but it has a
good reputation too. I believe you can download a PSP trial version. PSP
also takes "Adobe type plug-ins" to give even more features.

Elements is a stripped-down version of Photoshop to give the tools that the
"average" person would need to manipulate photos. I'm going to go out on a
limb (means I don't know for certain) but I think PSP is much closer to
Photoshop than Elements in terms of features. My friend uses Photoshop and
tells me of the great features - a quick check typically indicates PSP 8 has
them as well. Only thing I don't think PSP does is automatically join photos
for a panoramic view.

Photoshop, according to my friend, now has a "Product Activation" feature so
it can't be copied to multiple machines but I don't know the exact details.

Billh

On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 20:15:49 -0600, "Barry N. Turner"
wrote:

This may be a bit off topic, but I use a digital camera to photograph my
work. I am looking at purchasing a photo editing program to enhance those
not-so-great shots. Does anyone have any advice on either of the above
programs? Thanks.

Barry,

I've been using Paintshop Pro for years and am very satisfied with
it. Although there are other programs that will do more, perhaps, for
(y)our purposes (balancing color, brightness, contrast and cropping,
mostly) PSP is an excellent product for the price. And you can try
the shareware version of it first, if you like, which is also nice.


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Reyd Dorakeen wrote:

if you have linux, try tucows.com, many of the free programs are good,
with linux, unix, or mac os GIMP is very good, and the price is
excellent(free)

I was going to chime in with the GIMP myself, but it's not limited to Linux
and similar Unix-like environments. I dumped Windows some considerable
time ago, but I was definitely running the GIMP natively on Windows before
I did. It ran just fine.

It's a bit of an odd duck interface wise, and I will admit that the most
important reason why I run the GIMP is because it's the only application in
its class for Linux. I'm not sure I can see myself getting and using the
thing if I still had other choices.

OTOH, it's completely free (politically, and a price of $0.00) and very
powerful. It can do some seriously cool stuff, and can easily go head to
head with PSP. It's not a full-blown mega editor like Photoshop, but you
won't find a better editor anywhere at this price. Especially not one that
runs on all three of the most common PC operating systems.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Go to http://www.pcplus.co.uk/default.asp? click on downloads, click on
multimedia, find "Livepix". An image processing package that makes an
excellent accompaniment to a digital camera or scanner. This is a full
featured program, FREE for the download! I have used it quite a bit and
find it very usefull.

PCPLUS is one of many magazines published by Future Publishing in Great
Britain, look at the top right and you will find a white box saying "Select
a site" click on the down pointing arrow and a dropdown menu will appear
listing the other publications, "Computer Arts" may be of interest as well
as some of the others. Barnes & Noble carries some of these magazines
depending on location. PcPlus usually has attached a CD or DVD loaded with
Free full featured software, I check out the offerings the first of each
month and buy the mag of interest.



"Barry N. Turner" wrote in message
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This may be a bit off topic, but I use a digital camera to photograph my
work. I am looking at purchasing a photo editing program to enhance those
not-so-great shots. Does anyone have any advice on either of the above
programs? Thanks.

Barry

I teach a class at the RV Resort where we spend the winter. PSP-8 is the
software that we use. I began at the first of this year, and am now fairly
comfortable with it. It is, like Elements, a powerfull program. In either case
you will spend a good deal of time learning the program. We chose PSP-8 because
of the rebates at the time. Elements has a good deal more independent
ionformation available in teh form of publications available in your closest
book store. Also, it is my understandinf that Elements is a shorter version of
PhotoShop. Being a retired newspaper production director, I can relate that the
full version of PhotoShop is no easy program to learn. We figured about two
years full time before someone was proficient. I digress.
I am happy with PSP-8, and recommend it, however, you may wish to look into
something like Picture It by Microsoft, or Photo Suite 5 by Roxio. They have a
much shorter learning curve, and you can do great work with either of them.
Good Luck