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"Arch" wrote in message Max rightfully expressed his gratitude by writing; ".....both your and Andrew's advice is appreciated and digested. Thank you both." *********************************************** Well now Max, What are George, William, Leo, Ken, Terry and I ? Chopped liver? Maybe we didn't win an Oscar, but we too, made significant contributions to this production. We are a little miffed, but we are a forgiving bunch and just glad to know you suffered no indigestion. As for Dominic, (remember him?) we hope he is busy sharpening his set of tools and having fun with his HF 34706. & 'G' For the forgotten, Arch Would I be forgiven if I sent you a bottle of 20 y.o. single malt scotch for use in your wet wheel system? Max |
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and an extra big :-) here
"AHilton" wrote in message Come to think of it, Asphalt wouldn't be too good to use when it was really hot outside, I guess. It could also be downright hazardous to one's health, depending upon traffic. Max |
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wow! didn't think a simple question would turn into a hot debate, almost
sounds like a political discussion. anyways I picked up a grinder today at the delta service center and im going this weekend to woodcraft and get the wolverine system or maybe ill just make this one that I found on the web by Mr. king. I have a few more questions and comments and I hope it doesn't start a war. I do want to say first though that I have learned a lot from the discussion so far. I have the lathe set up on the bench and bolted down and all is well for the most part, I am having some issues with the tool rest though, the nut on the bottom looks to be a 7/8 or 1" keeps coming loose and the cam lock wont work. the only solution I see to fixing this is to get a nylon locking nut to replace it or get a new after market tool rest. so far im very happy with the lathe, I had an issue with the reeves drive,, the pulley on the motor was froze and wouldn't move when changing speeds. I was able to tap it to get it to close and applied some lithium grease and all is working well now. thanks so far for all your help. Dom "Reyd Dorakeen" wrote in message ... try searching google, there are lotsof diy plans out there, for many tools, and i remeber seeing a hollowing system too(if you mean the secondary rest that the hollowing tool goes in to make hollowing easier)as well as a sharpening system or 10 in article . net, Maxprop at wrote on 2/29/04 10:02 PM: "AHilton" wrote in message Maxprop asked me about the Delta wet grinding machines and said that he couldn't afford the Tormek. Actually I can, but prefer not to do so, if unnecessary. And I agree with your contention that a Tormek is not a necessary, if perhaps desirable, part of one's overall tool/knife/blade sharpening system. I, like most new turners, am experiencing the sticker shock associated with the landslide effect. The lathe is the tip of the iceberg in terms of cost. Sorby tools, a Vicmarc chuck, a hollowing system, and I'm feeling inclined to pull in the reins a bit on expenditures. A usable, effective sharpening system that doesn't cost $390 plus jigs and accessories has real appeal. Max |
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"Dominic Palazzola" wrote in message I have a few more questions and comments and I hope it doesn't start a war. A war can occasionally be a good thing, Dominic. See how much we learned from these guys? I do want to say first though that I have learned a lot from the discussion. As did I. Stuff I had no idea about, in fact. all is working well now. Glad to hear things are working out for you, Dom. Being new to this myself, I can appreciate minor glitches and problems, to say nothing of turning itself. Good luck and good turning. Max |
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"Dominic Palazzola" wrote in message ... ......... SNIP ............ the nut on the bottom looks to be a 7/8 or 1" keeps coming loose and the cam lock wont work. the only solution I see to fixing this is to get a nylon locking nut to replace it or get a new after market tool rest. ==================================== Dominic, The measurements on your lathe are all metric, so you'll need to check that out before you try to find a Nylok fastener. Ken Moon Webberville, TX |
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Ol' Blue uses a jam nut setup. Better than a nylock, IMHO. Let your
fingers walk to a fastener place and get two half-thickness nuts. "Ken Moon" wrote in message link.net... "Dominic Palazzola" wrote in message ... ......... SNIP ............ the nut on the bottom looks to be a 7/8 or 1" keeps coming loose and the cam lock wont work. the only solution I see to fixing this is to get a nylon locking nut to replace it or get a new after market tool rest. ==================================== Dominic, The measurements on your lathe are all metric, so you'll need to check that out before you try to find a Nylok fastener. Ken Moon Webberville, TX |
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thanks George this sounds like a better fix, ill run out and see if I can
find a pair tomorrow. "George" wrote in message ... Ol' Blue uses a jam nut setup. Better than a nylock, IMHO. Let your fingers walk to a fastener place and get two half-thickness nuts. "Ken Moon" wrote in message link.net... "Dominic Palazzola" wrote in message ... ......... SNIP ............ the nut on the bottom looks to be a 7/8 or 1" keeps coming loose and the cam lock wont work. the only solution I see to fixing this is to get a nylon locking nut to replace it or get a new after market tool rest. ==================================== Dominic, The measurements on your lathe are all metric, so you'll need to check that out before you try to find a Nylok fastener. Ken Moon Webberville, TX |
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"Dominic Palazzola" wrote: (clip) I had an issue with the reeves drive, the pulley on the motor was froze and wouldn't move when changing speeds. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That is a chronic problem with all these Reeves drives, including the Jet 1236 (yours is a knock off, as you doubtless know.) The movable pulley halves can become so tightly frozen that you will wonder whether they can be freed up without damage. So, I recommend that you clean and lubricate BEFORE the problem returns--maybe every few months. It is worst when it gets very cold, but I had the problem in California. We now have other problems here.:-) |
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hey leo, thanks for the response,, i did apply some lithium grease to
the drive mechanism, you say my lathe is a knock off of the jet 1236. are you sure about this or is it the same lathe with a different color? "Leo Lichtman" wrote in message ... "Dominic Palazzola" wrote: (clip) I had an issue with the reeves drive, the pulley on the motor was froze and wouldn't move when changing speeds. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That is a chronic problem with all these Reeves drives, including the Jet 1236 (yours is a knock off, as you doubtless know.) The movable pulley halves can become so tightly frozen that you will wonder whether they can be freed up without damage. So, I recommend that you clean and lubricate BEFORE the problem returns--maybe every few months. It is worst when it gets very cold, but I had the problem in California. We now have other problems here.:-) |
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Leo, Put to rest a minor question re how cold adversely affects Reeve's
and Hi-Lo type drives. I guess mostly it freezes the grease, but if if shrinking the pulley more than the shaft counts, then maybe (theory only) a different pulley metal could help. BTW, are there anti-freeze greases? As to the belts, (again practicality aside) a cold stiff belt should actually help the belt move the sheave halves? I know that broad V belts with firm inelastic sides were available for these mechanical VS drives, but since link belts work so well they don't seem worthwhile. Arch Fortiter, |
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"Dominic Palazzola" wrote in message hey leo, thanks for the response,, i did apply some lithium grease to the drive mechanism, you say my lathe is a knock off of the jet 1236. are you sure about this or is it the same lathe with a different color? Dominic, Patent laws in other countries, specifically Taiwan and mainland China, differ from those in the US and Canada. In the case of the PRC (China) no patent laws exist for the most part. This fosters the tendency for one or several companies to copy other's products, occasionally with no perceptible differences, save color and name badges. So it may be impossible to tell if your lathe from Harbor Freight is produced by the same company that produces the Jet 1236. It could be the same, but more likely it's a copy produced by someone else. That, however, does not necessarily make it inferior to the Jet. As mentioned above some of the copies are virtually identical. I haven't spent enough time examining the HF lathe to tell if differences exist. Max |
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maxprop you made a good point, and I suspected the same thing, the grizzly
lathe which looks like the jet and the hf comes with a 1/2 hp. motor. but the jet and hf have the 3/4, before I bought the lathe I did some research here on this news group and I visited both hf and a jet dealer and from what I could tell upon close examination is that jet relocated the power switch to the leg of the stand and added about 40.00 worth of extras to the 1236, but other then that it looked the same to me. another observation I made is that the 8 piece lathe tool set for 39.00 (I got mine for 29.00 on sale) is the same set I have seen at grizzly and other sites sell for 49.00. I don't normally shop at HF but I have found a few items well worth the money saved. Dom "Maxprop" wrote in message news "Dominic Palazzola" wrote in message hey leo, thanks for the response,, i did apply some lithium grease to the drive mechanism, you say my lathe is a knock off of the jet 1236. are you sure about this or is it the same lathe with a different color? Dominic, Patent laws in other countries, specifically Taiwan and mainland China, differ from those in the US and Canada. In the case of the PRC (China) no patent laws exist for the most part. This fosters the tendency for one or several companies to copy other's products, occasionally with no perceptible differences, save color and name badges. So it may be impossible to tell if your lathe from Harbor Freight is produced by the same company that produces the Jet 1236. It could be the same, but more likely it's a copy produced by someone else. That, however, does not necessarily make it inferior to the Jet. As mentioned above some of the copies are virtually identical. I haven't spent enough time examining the HF lathe to tell if differences exist. Max |
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Some of us are old enough to remember Delta bandsaw knockoffs from Taiwan
which had obviously used the Delta castings to make the molds. Everything was just a shrink away in dimension. Doubt this is the case now, but I'll bet the same castings go to several places to be finished to purchasers' specification. If the pulley and the shaft are of dissimilar metals, shrinkage with the cold sounds probable, but that would also lead to corrosion (galvanic) problems. "Maxprop" wrote in message news "Dominic Palazzola" wrote in message hey leo, thanks for the response,, i did apply some lithium grease to the drive mechanism, you say my lathe is a knock off of the jet 1236. are you sure about this or is it the same lathe with a different color? Dominic, Patent laws in other countries, specifically Taiwan and mainland China, differ from those in the US and Canada. In the case of the PRC (China) no patent laws exist for the most part. This fosters the tendency for one or several companies to copy other's products, occasionally with no perceptible differences, save color and name badges. So it may be impossible to tell if your lathe from Harbor Freight is produced by the same company that produces the Jet 1236. It could be the same, but more likely it's a copy produced by someone else. That, however, does not necessarily make it inferior to the Jet. As mentioned above some of the copies are virtually identical. I haven't spent enough time examining the HF lathe to tell if differences exist. Max |
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"Maxprop" wrote:.(clip) As mentioned above some of the copies are virtually identical. I haven't spent enough time examining the HF lathe to tell if differences exist. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Differences DO exist. I had a Jet 1236 fpor some time, and I ordered parts for it from HF, using the 34706 parts list. Things like faceplates and live centers fit perfectly, of course, but a on a new banjo, I had to bore out the toolpost hole slightly. |
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"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message news SNIP Differences DO exist. I had a Jet 1236 fpor some time, and I ordered parts for it from HF, using the 34706 parts list. Things like faceplates and live centers fit perfectly, of course, but a on a new banjo, I had to bore out the toolpost hole slightly. ********************************* Leo, That sounds right. Jets (at least those 1236's sold in the US) have a 1 inch (25.4 cm); the HF 34706 has a 25 cm. If you Jet had been worn enough, it probably would have fit. Ken Moon Webberville, TX |
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"Dominic Palazzola" wrote in message another observation I made is that the 8 piece lathe tool set for 39.00 (I got mine for 29.00 on sale) is the same set I have seen at grizzly and other sites sell for 49.00. I don't normally shop at HF but I have found a few items well worth the money saved. I bought the same set, Dom, but for $35--you got a better deal. I originally purchased them for the sole purpose of learning to sharpen freehand without ruining the expensive Sorby tools I bought with the lathe. Interestingly enough I've been using the HF tools more than the Sorbys, primarily because they work so well once sharpened and honed. When I get some experience under my belt I'll probably use the Sorbys more, but for now its nice to know that if I screw one up on the bench grinder I'm not destroying an expensive tool. I do, however, prefer the Sorby diamond parting tool over the flat-sided one from HF. Max |
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ok, another question on the outboard side of the drive there is what
looks like a 3/4" threaded hole. is this for a buffing wheel or some other attachment? |
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