I've had a 14" Delta Bandsaw, model 28-245, 1/2hp motor, open stand, for
about 10 years or so, and it's been a very good tool. Unfortunately, I've
been asking it to do more and more, and I think I'm well past the point for
which the tool was made. I'm a turner, and I added a riser block so that I
could round off logs before I put them on the lathe. I also do a lot of
laminated and segmented turning, so I do a lot of resawing.

Well, tonight I was trying to slab a few small Maple logs, about 18" long,
and no more than 8-9" tall. I was about half way through when the motor on
the saw just quit. When I felt the motor, it was pretty hot, and my first
thought was that I just burned it up. I thought I had been going slow
enough so as not to put too much strain on the motor - obviously I was wrong
there.

After about 45 minutes, I went back to the shop, and the saw started again.
This time I made a concerted effort to go much slower, but even when I
turned the log so that it was about 4" tall, after each pass the motor was
noticeably warmer. So I quit before the saw did again.

I ask a lot out of my bandsaw, and it's right up there among the most used
tools in the shop. I'm asking myself now if I should try to find a larger
motor for the saw that I have, since there is nothing wrong with the saw
other than a motor that can't do everything I want it to, or if it's time to
say good bye, and go with one of the newer saws with a full 1 hp motor ( and
a 4" dust port in a location where it actually does some good! ). I prefer
Delta over Jet, but I've also given Grizzly a side glance. The new 0555 got
great reviews, but it's only a 3/4hp motor, and I haven't seen anything
about the bigger 15" machine. The new 2 speed Delta looks pretty slick, but
then I saw the X5. Aside from a longer warranty and 1.5hp motor, what's the
real difference? And will the riser block I have for my current say fit the
either of the new ones?

I'm hoping someone out there has been in the same situation I'm in, and has
some words of wisdom. If I do go with a new saw, I'll have an older one for
sale at a pretty good price ...

TIA,
Tim

I would keep the saw. I replaced my 1hp motor with a 2hp motor and can't
believe the difference. I put on the motor from Harbor Freight. This motor
spins at more rpm so I had to change the pulleys to correct the rpm. Works
great and has a ton of power.
"Tim Schubach" wrote in message
...
I've had a 14" Delta Bandsaw, model 28-245, 1/2hp motor, open stand, for
about 10 years or so, and it's been a very good tool. Unfortunately, I've
been asking it to do more and more, and I think I'm well past the point
for
which the tool was made. I'm a turner, and I added a riser block so that
I
could round off logs before I put them on the lathe. I also do a lot of
laminated and segmented turning, so I do a lot of resawing.

Well, tonight I was trying to slab a few small Maple logs, about 18" long,
and no more than 8-9" tall. I was about half way through when the motor
on
the saw just quit. When I felt the motor, it was pretty hot, and my first
thought was that I just burned it up. I thought I had been going slow
enough so as not to put too much strain on the motor - obviously I was
wrong
there.

After about 45 minutes, I went back to the shop, and the saw started
again.
This time I made a concerted effort to go much slower, but even when I
turned the log so that it was about 4" tall, after each pass the motor was
noticeably warmer. So I quit before the saw did again.

I ask a lot out of my bandsaw, and it's right up there among the most used
tools in the shop. I'm asking myself now if I should try to find a larger
motor for the saw that I have, since there is nothing wrong with the saw
other than a motor that can't do everything I want it to, or if it's time
to
say good bye, and go with one of the newer saws with a full 1 hp motor (
and
a 4" dust port in a location where it actually does some good! ). I
prefer
Delta over Jet, but I've also given Grizzly a side glance. The new 0555
got
great reviews, but it's only a 3/4hp motor, and I haven't seen anything
about the bigger 15" machine. The new 2 speed Delta looks pretty slick,
but
then I saw the X5. Aside from a longer warranty and 1.5hp motor, what's
the
real difference? And will the riser block I have for my current say fit
the
either of the new ones?

I'm hoping someone out there has been in the same situation I'm in, and
has
some words of wisdom. If I do go with a new saw, I'll have an older one
for
sale at a pretty good price ...

TIA,
Tim

First check to see if your current BS has a jack pulley. If so, remove it
and try your saw again. Failing joy in this endeavor, buy a larger 1hp or
better motor! On my Reliant, all I had to do was remove the jack pulley and
replace the motor pulley to get the right feet per minute. HTH,

Leif
"Tim Schubach" wrote in message
...
I've had a 14" Delta Bandsaw, model 28-245, 1/2hp motor, open stand, for
about 10 years or so, and it's been a very good tool. Unfortunately, I've
been asking it to do more and more, and I think I'm well past the point
for
which the tool was made. I'm a turner, and I added a riser block so that
I
could round off logs before I put them on the lathe. I also do a lot of
laminated and segmented turning, so I do a lot of resawing.

Well, tonight I was trying to slab a few small Maple logs, about 18" long,
and no more than 8-9" tall. I was about half way through when the motor
on
the saw just quit. When I felt the motor, it was pretty hot, and my first
thought was that I just burned it up. I thought I had been going slow
enough so as not to put too much strain on the motor - obviously I was
wrong
there.

After about 45 minutes, I went back to the shop, and the saw started
again.
This time I made a concerted effort to go much slower, but even when I
turned the log so that it was about 4" tall, after each pass the motor was
noticeably warmer. So I quit before the saw did again.

I ask a lot out of my bandsaw, and it's right up there among the most used
tools in the shop. I'm asking myself now if I should try to find a larger
motor for the saw that I have, since there is nothing wrong with the saw
other than a motor that can't do everything I want it to, or if it's time
to
say good bye, and go with one of the newer saws with a full 1 hp motor (
and
a 4" dust port in a location where it actually does some good! ). I
prefer
Delta over Jet, but I've also given Grizzly a side glance. The new 0555
got
great reviews, but it's only a 3/4hp motor, and I haven't seen anything
about the bigger 15" machine. The new 2 speed Delta looks pretty slick,
but
then I saw the X5. Aside from a longer warranty and 1.5hp motor, what's
the
real difference? And will the riser block I have for my current say fit
the
either of the new ones?

I'm hoping someone out there has been in the same situation I'm in, and
has
some words of wisdom. If I do go with a new saw, I'll have an older one
for
sale at a pretty good price ...

TIA,
Tim

I concur with the others that you will do best to put your money into
upgrading your present saw. The castings, wheels, trunions and table are
basically the same as all the new Delta 14 saws (the X5 now has a
slightly larger table), and in general better than the clones.

Do get a bigger motor, and do obtain the Iturra Design bandsaw catalog.
Iturra design is like a hot rod speed shop for bandsaws and offer a wide
variety of ways to make significant improvements in the Delta 14 style
saws. Alas, they don't have a website but you can obtain a catalog by
calling them toll free at 888/722-7078. They usually have an add in Fine
Woodworking as well. Excellent folks with excellent products.

Lyn

Tim Schubach wrote:
I've had a 14" Delta Bandsaw, model 28-245, 1/2hp motor, open stand, for
about 10 years or so, and it's been a very good tool. Unfortunately, I've
been asking it to do more and more, and I think I'm well past the point for
which the tool was made. I'm a turner, and I added a riser block so that I
could round off logs before I put them on the lathe. I also do a lot of
laminated and segmented turning, so I do a lot of resawing.

The G0555 Grizzly has a 1hp motor, not 3/4

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"Tim Schubach" wrote in message
...
I've had a 14" Delta Bandsaw, model 28-245, 1/2hp motor, open stand, for
about 10 years or so, and it's been a very good tool. Unfortunately, I've
been asking it to do more and more, and I think I'm well past the point
for
which the tool was made. I'm a turner, and I added a riser block so that
I
could round off logs before I put them on the lathe. I also do a lot of
laminated and segmented turning, so I do a lot of resawing.

Well, tonight I was trying to slab a few small Maple logs, about 18" long,
and no more than 8-9" tall. I was about half way through when the motor
on
the saw just quit. When I felt the motor, it was pretty hot, and my first
thought was that I just burned it up. I thought I had been going slow
enough so as not to put too much strain on the motor - obviously I was
wrong
there.

After about 45 minutes, I went back to the shop, and the saw started
again.
This time I made a concerted effort to go much slower, but even when I
turned the log so that it was about 4" tall, after each pass the motor was
noticeably warmer. So I quit before the saw did again.

I ask a lot out of my bandsaw, and it's right up there among the most used
tools in the shop. I'm asking myself now if I should try to find a larger
motor for the saw that I have, since there is nothing wrong with the saw
other than a motor that can't do everything I want it to, or if it's time
to
say good bye, and go with one of the newer saws with a full 1 hp motor (
and
a 4" dust port in a location where it actually does some good! ). I
prefer
Delta over Jet, but I've also given Grizzly a side glance. The new 0555
got
great reviews, but it's only a 3/4hp motor, and I haven't seen anything
about the bigger 15" machine. The new 2 speed Delta looks pretty slick,
but
then I saw the X5. Aside from a longer warranty and 1.5hp motor, what's
the
real difference? And will the riser block I have for my current say fit
the
either of the new ones?

I'm hoping someone out there has been in the same situation I'm in, and
has
some words of wisdom. If I do go with a new saw, I'll have an older one
for
sale at a pretty good price ...

TIA,
Tim

Tim, I recently picked up the new 16" Jet. I read you prefer Delta of the
Jet, and in any cases, so do I. However, this BS is a real machine. 1 1/2
HP and a real 4" dust port. I put on a 1" 3TPI blade and have not looked
back. I sliced up some 10/4 x 9" Purpleheart into many 1/8" veneers. The
motor never even whimpered.

Dave



"Tim Schubach" wrote in message
...
I've had a 14" Delta Bandsaw, model 28-245, 1/2hp motor, open stand, for
about 10 years or so, and it's been a very good tool. Unfortunately, I've
been asking it to do more and more, and I think I'm well past the point
for
which the tool was made. I'm a turner, and I added a riser block so that
I
could round off logs before I put them on the lathe. I also do a lot of
laminated and segmented turning, so I do a lot of resawing.

Well, tonight I was trying to slab a few small Maple logs, about 18" long,
and no more than 8-9" tall. I was about half way through when the motor
on
the saw just quit. When I felt the motor, it was pretty hot, and my first
thought was that I just burned it up. I thought I had been going slow
enough so as not to put too much strain on the motor - obviously I was
wrong
there.

After about 45 minutes, I went back to the shop, and the saw started
again.
This time I made a concerted effort to go much slower, but even when I
turned the log so that it was about 4" tall, after each pass the motor was
noticeably warmer. So I quit before the saw did again.

I ask a lot out of my bandsaw, and it's right up there among the most used
tools in the shop. I'm asking myself now if I should try to find a larger
motor for the saw that I have, since there is nothing wrong with the saw
other than a motor that can't do everything I want it to, or if it's time
to
say good bye, and go with one of the newer saws with a full 1 hp motor (
and
a 4" dust port in a location where it actually does some good! ). I
prefer
Delta over Jet, but I've also given Grizzly a side glance. The new 0555
got
great reviews, but it's only a 3/4hp motor, and I haven't seen anything
about the bigger 15" machine. The new 2 speed Delta looks pretty slick,
but
then I saw the X5. Aside from a longer warranty and 1.5hp motor, what's
the
real difference? And will the riser block I have for my current say fit
the
either of the new ones?

I'm hoping someone out there has been in the same situation I'm in, and
has
some words of wisdom. If I do go with a new saw, I'll have an older one
for
sale at a pretty good price ...

TIA,
Tim






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"Tim Schubach" wrote in message

but I've also given Grizzly a side glance. The new 0555 got
great reviews, but it's only a 3/4hp motor, and I haven't seen anything
about the bigger 15" machine.

The G0555 14" saw has a 1hp motor, not 3/4hp.

I have the G1148 15" saw, and have no complaints. I tend to abuse it with
re-sawing tasks, but it hasn't complained yet. The motor seems up to the
task. It's been a good saw, especially for the money.

Max

Tim,
Have you tried a new blade yet? Could be you hit something in a previous cut
that dulled the current blade and it's not cutting and the blade is
dragging. I'd go with a new blade before I jumped for a new motor. I know
it's easy to blame a low power motor when you want a new bigger one, but
I've seen new blades make my 14" feel like I had a lot more power.

Ken Moon
Weberville, TX
===========================================
"Tim Schubach" wrote in message
...
I've had a 14" Delta Bandsaw, model 28-245, 1/2hp motor, open stand, for
about 10 years or so, and it's been a very good tool. Unfortunately, I've
been asking it to do more and more, and I think I'm well past the point
for
which the tool was made. I'm a turner, and I added a riser block so that
I
could round off logs before I put them on the lathe. I also do a lot of
laminated and segmented turning, so I do a lot of resawing.

Well, tonight I was trying to slab a few small Maple logs, about 18" long,
and no more than 8-9" tall. I was about half way through when the motor
on
the saw just quit. When I felt the motor, it was pretty hot, and my first
thought was that I just burned it up. I thought I had been going slow
enough so as not to put too much strain on the motor - obviously I was
wrong
there.

After about 45 minutes, I went back to the shop, and the saw started
again.
This time I made a concerted effort to go much slower, but even when I
turned the log so that it was about 4" tall, after each pass the motor was
noticeably warmer. So I quit before the saw did again.

I ask a lot out of my bandsaw, and it's right up there among the most used
tools in the shop. I'm asking myself now if I should try to find a larger
motor for the saw that I have, since there is nothing wrong with the saw
other than a motor that can't do everything I want it to, or if it's time
to
say good bye, and go with one of the newer saws with a full 1 hp motor (
and
a 4" dust port in a location where it actually does some good! ). I
prefer
Delta over Jet, but I've also given Grizzly a side glance. The new 0555
got
great reviews, but it's only a 3/4hp motor, and I haven't seen anything
about the bigger 15" machine. The new 2 speed Delta looks pretty slick,
but
then I saw the X5. Aside from a longer warranty and 1.5hp motor, what's
the
real difference? And will the riser block I have for my current say fit
the
either of the new ones?

I'm hoping someone out there has been in the same situation I'm in, and
has
some words of wisdom. If I do go with a new saw, I'll have an older one
for
sale at a pretty good price ...

TIA,
Tim

We got a Grizz at school as a bean in grant, and it used to sit idle while
the kids waited for the 40 year old Delta. Got a second Delta a couple of
years ago - Grizz never would cut the same way twice, even after we got a
replacement for a cracked casting.

Put a 1HP Baldor on my Delta - $169 I think. 1725, NEMA 56 and all that,
but you have to take the armature out and swap ends if you have the open
stand, because the switch box is in the way of the bottom door. That, a
good Suffolk blade and, most important, a non-tippy surface to help keep the
blade from binding, seem to be all I need.

For that flat reference surface, a LN scrub is great!

As to dust collection, a port just below the insert is the way to go, but
magnetic mount or you'll lose the tilt. DON'T use a "zero clearance" insert
and expect dust to go anywhere but back in your face!

"Tim Schubach" wrote in message
...
I've had a 14" Delta Bandsaw, model 28-245, 1/2hp motor, open stand, for
about 10 years or so, and it's been a very good tool.

I ask a lot out of my bandsaw, and it's right up there among the most used
tools in the shop. I'm asking myself now if I should try to find a larger
motor for the saw that I have, since there is nothing wrong with the saw
other than a motor that can't do everything I want it to, or if it's time
to
say good bye, and go with one of the newer saws with a full 1 hp motor (
and
a 4" dust port in a location where it actually does some good! ).

I have the same saw and motor and the same heat problem. I have run the saw
until the motor shuts down from heat. I keep doing this hoping the motor
will burn out and I can get a new motor (ok so I am too cheap to change it
out while it runs). Blow out the motor with compressed air every once in a
while and the problem will be reduced quite a bit. The motor seems to be
unstoppable however and after cooling down will keep on going.
"Tim Schubach" wrote in message
...
I've had a 14" Delta Bandsaw, model 28-245, 1/2hp motor, open stand, for
about 10 years or so, and it's been a very good tool. Unfortunately, I've
been asking it to do more and more, and I think I'm well past the point
for
which the tool was made. I'm a turner, and I added a riser block so that
I
could round off logs before I put them on the lathe. I also do a lot of
laminated and segmented turning, so I do a lot of resawing.

Well, tonight I was trying to slab a few small Maple logs, about 18" long,
and no more than 8-9" tall. I was about half way through when the motor
on
the saw just quit. When I felt the motor, it was pretty hot, and my first
thought was that I just burned it up. I thought I had been going slow
enough so as not to put too much strain on the motor - obviously I was
wrong
there.

After about 45 minutes, I went back to the shop, and the saw started
again.
This time I made a concerted effort to go much slower, but even when I
turned the log so that it was about 4" tall, after each pass the motor was
noticeably warmer. So I quit before the saw did again.

I ask a lot out of my bandsaw, and it's right up there among the most used
tools in the shop. I'm asking myself now if I should try to find a larger
motor for the saw that I have, since there is nothing wrong with the saw
other than a motor that can't do everything I want it to, or if it's time
to
say good bye, and go with one of the newer saws with a full 1 hp motor (
and
a 4" dust port in a location where it actually does some good! ). I
prefer
Delta over Jet, but I've also given Grizzly a side glance. The new 0555
got
great reviews, but it's only a 3/4hp motor, and I haven't seen anything
about the bigger 15" machine. The new 2 speed Delta looks pretty slick,
but
then I saw the X5. Aside from a longer warranty and 1.5hp motor, what's
the
real difference? And will the riser block I have for my current say fit
the
either of the new ones?

I'm hoping someone out there has been in the same situation I'm in, and
has
some words of wisdom. If I do go with a new saw, I'll have an older one
for
sale at a pretty good price ...

TIA,
Tim

Lyn,

The number you gave (888/722-7078) doesn't seem to work. I keep
getting "Your call cannot be completed as dialed"??????????

Larry

H'mmm that interesting. That is the number that is also shown in a very
recent issue of Woodwork magazine. You might want to also try the email
address I have for them,

There none tool free number is 1/904/642-2802

Lyn

Larry wrote:
Lyn,

The number you gave (888/722-7078) doesn't seem to work. I keep
getting "Your call cannot be completed as dialed"??????????

Larry

Agree that Iturra is a great catalog. My 2002 catalog has the number
you list on the front (888-722-7078). It also has the e-mail address
"KALLL at aol.com" (Yes, that's 3 L's. And yes, replace the " at "
with "@".)

If all else fails, the mailing address is
Iturra Design
4636 Fulton Road
Jacksonville, Florida 32225-1332

Mark

(Larry) wrote in message . com...
Lyn,

The number you gave (888/722-7078) doesn't seem to work. I keep
getting "Your call cannot be completed as dialed"??????????

Larry

Lyn,

Boy am I stupid!!!!!!!! I was forgetting to dial the 1 before the
888. I've been using the net too long.

Larry

On 13 Feb 2004 03:08:07 -0800, Larry wrote:


Lyn,

Boy am I stupid!!!!!!!! I was forgetting to dial the 1 before the
888. I've been using the net too long.

Cell phones help you forget the 1 too!


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