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My son bought a new house in the country on a lake and had to cut down a
large 2 foot diameter dead evergreen tree. There was no foliage and the bark
was still intact. It has wood that's quite red. I thought it would be a
nice idea to make a salad bowl set for him and his wife from the wood.
I have an old lathe that I used once about 5 years ago as well as the tools.

My question is what do I have to do to the wood to prepare it for turning so
that it doesn't split? Right now it's a pile of 2 foot logs.
Thanks
Wayne

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I guess nobody thought to tell that to our coastal aboriginal people, who
served and cooked almost exclusively with cedar.
In fact even today the famous "planked salmon" dish, served in many 5 star
restaurants is cooked and served on, guess what, "Cedar".

Regards.
James Barley.
www.members.shaw.ca/jamesbarley


"Mark" wrote in message red. make a salad bowl
set
Wayne

Sure sounds like Cedar to me. You should be able to confirm
by the odor.

NOT a good candidate for edibles.

--
Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception may be different.

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In article
, lvkh-
says...
I guess nobody thought to tell that to our coastal aboriginal people, who
served and cooked almost exclusively with cedar.
In fact even today the famous "planked salmon" dish, served in many 5 star
restaurants is cooked and served on, guess what, "Cedar".

Regards.
James Barley.

Be that as it may, I suspect the OP may not like the flavor
the cedar oils will impart.

Just because the Indians did it, it doesn't make it right
(or best, or preferable).



Sure sounds like Cedar to me. You should be able to confirm
by the odor.

NOT a good candidate for edibles.

--
Mark

--
Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception may be different.

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And to continue,
"just because you don't think it's a good idea",
also doesn't make it right, or best, etc, etc.
I would tend to cast my faith along with the worlds "top chefs" when it
comes to the food and cedar issue, rather then "Mark Who"
Enjoy your evening

James Barley...

"Mark" wrote in message
th.net...
In article
, lvkh-
says...
I guess nobody thought to tell that to our coastal aboriginal people,
who
served and cooked almost exclusively with cedar.
In fact even today the famous "planked salmon" dish, served in many 5
star
restaurants is cooked and served on, guess what, "Cedar".

Regards.
James Barley.

Be that as it may, I suspect the OP may not like the flavor
the cedar oils will impart.

Just because the Indians did it, it doesn't make it right
(or best, or preferable).



Sure sounds like Cedar to me. You should be able to confirm
by the odor.

NOT a good candidate for edibles.

--
Mark

--
Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception may be different.

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Wayne
Take a look at my web site under "preparing green wood"
http://roundthewoods.com/firewood.shtml
It will take you through preparing the wood and roughing the bowl.
--
God bless and safe turning
Darrell Feltmate
Truro, NS, Canada
http://www.roundthewoods.com

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On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:04:59 -0400, Mark
wrote:

Just because the Indians did it, it doesn't make it right
(or best, or preferable).

Ah, must be a feller who also doesn't eat (or drink) corn, spuds,
tomatoes, maple syrup, squash, chocolate, coffee, cranberries, turkey,
venison, pumpkin, jerky, use tobacco, believe in rotating crops,
irrigation, democracy, public works projects, women's rights, slavery
or taking scalps. There's the good, the bad and the ugly in every
culture...careful you don't paint with too broad a brush.


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(IOW, The implied swipe at using things of an Indian origin irked me a
bit.)

his full quote
| Be that as it may, I suspect the OP may not like the flavor |
|the cedar oils will impart. |
| |
|Just because the Indians did it, it doesn't make it right |
|(or best, or preferable). |

He was just reacting to the previous post and saying that most people would
not like the taste on a everyday basis. Planked fish is one thing but cedar
is a STRONG spice not used very often. (ever?)


I think a set of bowls and a few salmon planks would be a great NW gift.

You just can't be thin skinned on usnet most hurt feelings are just
misunderstandings and bad choice of words with the wrong intent inserted.


All I thought he was saying is that the people receiving the gift may not
like cedar salad :) maybe they may prefer Italian or French. :)

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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:46:41 GMT, timonjkl
wrote:

(Chuck) wrote in news:3f15d2c8.16628370
:

On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:04:59 -0400, Mark
wrote:

Just because the Indians did it, it doesn't make it right
(or best, or preferable).

Ah, must be a feller who also doesn't eat (or drink) corn, spuds,
tomatoes, maple syrup, squash, chocolate, coffee, cranberries, turkey,
venison, pumpkin, jerky, use tobacco, believe in rotating crops,
irrigation, democracy, public works projects, women's rights, slavery
or taking scalps. There's the good, the bad and the ugly in every
culture...careful you don't paint with too broad a brush.



What do all these things have to do with each other?

[Note: I'm aware that coffee didn't originate here. My mistake, I
sometimes list it in with cocoa, for some inexplicable reason, as
originating here .]

Anyhow, like cooking on/in/with cedar, they are all aspects,
characteristics or products of various American Indian cultures
(North, Central and South American, of course), introduced to the
Euros..(well, the Euros knew about slavery, of course and had
forgotten what the Greeks taught them about democracy, but there are
bound to be some overlaps. )

Point is, while you may or may not agree with something a particular
culture does, doesn't necessarily make you "right", either,
"rightness" being utterly subjective in many cases. There may also be
things about said culture that you (generic "you") don't know, too.

(IOW, The implied swipe at using things of an Indian origin irked me a
bit.)


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Chuck wrote:
:
: Ah, must be a feller who also doesn't eat (or drink) corn, spuds,
: tomatoes, maple syrup, squash, chocolate, coffee, cranberries, turkey,
: venison, pumpkin, jerky, use tobacco, believe in rotating crops,
: irrigation, democracy, public works projects, women's rights, slavery
: or taking scalps. There's the good, the bad and the ugly in every
: culture...careful you don't paint with too broad a brush.

: Anyhow, like cooking on/in/with cedar, they are all aspects,
: characteristics or products of various American Indian cultures
: (North, Central and South American, of course), introduced to the
: Euros..

I don't think the Indians were the first to invent irrigation,
democracy, or public works projects. And I would think the
agricultural societies in Europe would have been rotating crops, although
I'm not utterly positive.

You can also add potatoes as one of the plants original to the Americas.

-- Andy Barss

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Fallowing is even written into Jewish law.

Then there's that other great "gift" to Europeans - tobacco.


"Andrew Barss" wrote in message
...


I don't think the Indians were the first to invent irrigation,
democracy, or public works projects. And I would think the
agricultural societies in Europe would have been rotating crops, although
I'm not utterly positive.

You can also add potatoes as one of the plants original to the Americas.

-- Andy Barss

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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 05:21:33 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Barss
wrote:

Chuck wrote:
:
: Ah, must be a feller who also doesn't eat (or drink) corn, spuds,

.................................................. .................................................. ..................^^^^^
: venison, pumpkin, jerky, use tobacco, believe in rotating crops,
.................................................. ........^^^^^^^^^^^

I don't think the Indians were the first to invent irrigation,
democracy, or public works projects. And I would think the
agricultural societies in Europe would have been rotating crops, although
I'm not utterly positive.

Well, you deleted the portion of the post where I said:

(well, the Euros knew about slavery, of course and had
forgotten what the Greeks taught them about democracy, but there are
bound to be some overlaps. )
...........................^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And in fact there was crop rotation all over the world, and not all
Indians rotated their crops. Indeed, their is evidence that many
groups exhausted their soil, then moved on to other areas.

Public works projects were common to the ancient Egyptians, too.

My point wasn't that all of these things were unique to Indian
societies, but that they had been done that way by Indians, as a
counter to the original statement about things being done the "Indian
way."


You can also add potatoes as one of the plants original to the Americas.

(See first quote)

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In article ,
"George" wrote:

Then there's that other great "gift" to Europeans - tobacco.

and reservation casinos.

Back to the group topic, anyone know if American Indians turned wood?

_____
American Association of Woodturners
Cascade Woodturners Assoc., Portland, Oregon
Northwest Woodturners, Tigard, Oregon
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Carved, but as the wheel was unknown....

"Owen Lowe" wrote in message
...
Back to the group topic, anyone know if American Indians turned wood?

_____

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In article ,
"George" wrote:

but as the wheel was unknown....

really?

_____
American Association of Woodturners
Cascade Woodturners Assoc., Portland, Oregon
Northwest Woodturners, Tigard, Oregon
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Yes, really.
Consider for a moment their use of the "travois"

James.

"Owen Lowe" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"George" wrote:

but as the wheel was unknown....

really?

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Cascade Woodturners Assoc., Portland, Oregon
Northwest Woodturners, Tigard, Oregon
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