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Is it worth the money?
Anyone besides Robohippy use one?


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mac davis schreef:
Is it worth the money?
Anyone besides Robohippy use one?



I do. It gives a rather rough surface when used as rouging tool, but
it's also a good scraper. The carbide is of extraordinary quality.

Some of my works:

http://www.cadeauwerkplaats.nl/artis...roduct_id=1006

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Mac,
I bought one a while ago and I like it a lot.Its nice for roughing out
cherry burl bowls or any bowl for that matter.
The blades stay sharp for quite awhile too.
Kevin
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Is it worth the money?
Anyone besides Robohippy use one?



I do. It gives a rather rough surface when used as rouging tool, but it's
also a good scraper. The carbide is of extraordinary quality.

Some of my works:

http://www.cadeauwerkplaats.nl/artis...roduct_id=1006

Gerard.



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On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 23:13:33 -0800, mac davis wrote:

Is it worth the money?
Anyone besides Robohippy use one?


One of our club members demonstrated it and the finisher at our monthly
meeting Thursday. I'm impressed enough that I'm also considering buying
one.

I'd like to hear some opinions on how it compares to various other
carbide tip tools like the Hunter. The demo was on a bowl, how does it
do on end grain?

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Is it worth the money?
Anyone besides Robohippy use one?


This is my $10 version:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2768312...7622662651932/

The tip shape can be changed in 2 or 3 minutes according to need. I could
upgrade to carbide for additional $2 :-)

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Hello Mac,

I first saw them demonstrated at the Desert Woodturning Roundup in
early 2009. I was impressed enough that I bought both the Ci1 and the
Ci2 at that time. Mildred and I use them a great deal when roughing
wood down to round. I turned a complete goblet with the Ci1 and the
lathe running at 2000 rpm, except for the inside bottom of the bowl.
It cut clean enough to be ready to sand at that speed. It is a bit
rough at slower speeds. When at the Utah Woodturning Symposium I
picked up the Easy Finisher and found it works very well, again it
works better with higher speeds. They seem expernsive, but are very
little more than a bowl gouge. One of their major advantages is you
don't have to spend a lot of time sharpening. It doesn't work like a
scraper where the tool tip must be tipped down. With this tool you go
straight in on center line of rotation.

I don't have any interest in this tool other than it is a good tool
that is being maligned by many of the experienced turners. I feel the
tool will help beginners to turn better quicker.

Fred Holder
http://www.morewoodturning.net
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I posted a review here (and AAW and WoodNet and...) last spring after
getting one at the Utah symposium.

In a nut shell, they knock the corners off the bowl and make it round
at least as quick, and with less effort then a gouge.

But, I find that after the bowl is round, and you want to shape it, a
gouge works as well (or better) and leaves a much better finish on the
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On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 18:59:04 -0800 (PST), Fred Holder
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Sounds like it might work for me, Fred...
I turn mostly desert ironwood, usually starting with a "far from round" piece
that's often more voids than wood..

Might give it a try just to save the wear and tear on the bowl gouges, thought
at about $30 each, I can use 3 or 4 gouges up for the price of the ez rougher..


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Hello Mac,

I first saw them demonstrated at the Desert Woodturning Roundup in
early 2009. I was impressed enough that I bought both the Ci1 and the
Ci2 at that time. Mildred and I use them a great deal when roughing
wood down to round. I turned a complete goblet with the Ci1 and the
lathe running at 2000 rpm, except for the inside bottom of the bowl.
It cut clean enough to be ready to sand at that speed. It is a bit
rough at slower speeds. When at the Utah Woodturning Symposium I
picked up the Easy Finisher and found it works very well, again it
works better with higher speeds. They seem expernsive, but are very
little more than a bowl gouge. One of their major advantages is you
don't have to spend a lot of time sharpening. It doesn't work like a
scraper where the tool tip must be tipped down. With this tool you go
straight in on center line of rotation.

I don't have any interest in this tool other than it is a good tool
that is being maligned by many of the experienced turners. I feel the
tool will help beginners to turn better quicker.

Fred Holder
http://www.morewoodturning.net



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Mac
Talk to Ken at Woodchuck Tools.
http://www.woodchuck-tools.com/index.htm
I own 2 of the Woodchucks and can testify that they are excellent tools at a
great price.

Dan

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Actually, I don't have one. I do use a 'big ugly' tool which is a 7/8
inch wide by 3/16 thick by 3 inch long piece of tantung steel silver
soldered onto a 3/4 inch square stock bar. There is a cutter on both
ends of the bar, and you wear a heavy leather glove on the handle
hand. Tantung is almost as hard as carbide, but you can sharpen it
easily on a standard grinder. The Oregon coastal myrtle wood turners
have been using it for years. It keeps its edge a long time, not as
long as carbide, but much longer than HSS. Both the big ugly, and the
Easy rougher are scrapers. They do work better at higher speeds, and
if you roll it to 45 degrees, you get a nice clean shear cut. There is
a post on the AAW site about a source for the cutters which is a lot
cheaper than buying them direct. I do use the Eliminator tools which
have a carbide disc, and consider it great for finish cuts on end
grain. Not so good for roughing. You have to keep it at 45 degrees
(like the Hunter tools), because if you hold them flat, they are
really grabby.

robo hippy


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* * *Talk to Ken at Woodchuck Tools.http://www.woodchuck-tools.com/index.htm
I own 2 of the Woodchucks and can testify that they are excellent tools at a
great price.

Dan




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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:41:53 -0800 (PST), robo hippy
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Yeah.. love my Mega Eliminator, use it a LOT.. Definitely not designed for
roughing irregular peces of ironwood, though..

My concern with the EZ rougher is that most of the pieces that I'd want to use
it on might be spinning too slow to make it effective..


Actually, I don't have one. I do use a 'big ugly' tool which is a 7/8
inch wide by 3/16 thick by 3 inch long piece of tantung steel silver
soldered onto a 3/4 inch square stock bar. There is a cutter on both
ends of the bar, and you wear a heavy leather glove on the handle
hand. Tantung is almost as hard as carbide, but you can sharpen it
easily on a standard grinder. The Oregon coastal myrtle wood turners
have been using it for years. It keeps its edge a long time, not as
long as carbide, but much longer than HSS. Both the big ugly, and the
Easy rougher are scrapers. They do work better at higher speeds, and
if you roll it to 45 degrees, you get a nice clean shear cut. There is
a post on the AAW site about a source for the cutters which is a lot
cheaper than buying them direct. I do use the Eliminator tools which
have a carbide disc, and consider it great for finish cuts on end
grain. Not so good for roughing. You have to keep it at 45 degrees
(like the Hunter tools), because if you hold them flat, they are
really grabby.

robo hippy


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Mac
* * *Talk to Ken at Woodchuck Tools.http://www.woodchuck-tools.com/index.htm
I own 2 of the Woodchucks and can testify that they are excellent tools at a
great price.

Dan



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Â* Â* Â*Talk to Ken at Woodchuck
Â* Â* Â*Tools.http://www.woodchuck-tools.com/index.htm
I own 2 of the Woodchucks and can testify that they are excellent
tools at a great price.


Dan, thank you for that post. I checked out the woodchucks and will be
ordering one today. You're certainly right about the excellent price -
I'll post about the quality after I try it out. Thanks again.





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