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I have an old, 1954 vintage Rockwell Delta lathe. I've been using it to
put new tips on pool cues. To do this, I jam the cue shaft through the hollow head spindle and into a ball bearing steady rest I made. This works OK if I'm careful to wrap the cue shaft but is not ideal to say the least. What I would like to get is a thru chuck that fits a 1 x 8 spindle that I can tighten down on the cue shaft as it comes out of the spindle. I've never used a jaw chuck to turn anything, I always attach a hunk of wood to a face plate to mount bowls or spigots etc. Chucks are generally used to hold bowls or spigots and descriptions are not clear to me if they would hold something like this. I'm looking for a cheap solution, nothing fancy or expensive, but I'm not sure which chucks would work best to hold a thin (under 1/2") dowel threaded through the spindle? I'm looking at this one from Penn State tools: http://www.pennstateind.com/store/ec...aw-chucks.html I'm not sure this one would even work from the pictures, and I'd really like something even cheaper, but under $100 I guess is ok. It needs to be self centering as I don't want to fool around adjusting jaws. Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. -- Jack Using FREE News Server: http://Motzarella.org http://jbstein.com |
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:49:55 -0500, Jack Stein wrote:
I have an old, 1954 vintage Rockwell Delta lathe. I've been using it to put new tips on pool cues. To do this, I jam the cue shaft through the hollow head spindle and into a ball bearing steady rest I made. This works OK if I'm careful to wrap the cue shaft but is not ideal to say the least. What I would like to get is a thru chuck that fits a 1 x 8 spindle that I can tighten down on the cue shaft as it comes out of the spindle. I've never used a jaw chuck to turn anything, I always attach a hunk of wood to a face plate to mount bowls or spigots etc. Chucks are generally used to hold bowls or spigots and descriptions are not clear to me if they would hold something like this. I'm looking for a cheap solution, nothing fancy or expensive, but I'm not sure which chucks would work best to hold a thin (under 1/2") dowel threaded through the spindle? I'm looking at this one from Penn State tools: http://www.pennstateind.com/store/ec...aw-chucks.html I'm not sure this one would even work from the pictures, and I'd really like something even cheaper, but under $100 I guess is ok. It needs to be self centering as I don't want to fool around adjusting jaws. Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. Should work... I have a Oneway Talon chuck and run dowels through the spindle and tighten the chuck on them.. I guess that they're too long (1 piece) to do between centers? mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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mac davis wrote:
I'm looking at this one from Penn State tools: http://www.pennstateind.com/store/ec...aw-chucks.html I'm not sure this one would even work from the pictures, and I'd really like something even cheaper, but under $100 I guess is ok. It needs to be self centering as I don't want to fool around adjusting jaws. Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. Should work... I have a Oneway Talon chuck and run dowels through the spindle and tighten the chuck on them.. I guess that they're too long (1 piece) to do between centers? Not that they're too long but to shape the tip you need the end of the shaft open. Oneway looks like a nice chuck but I don't plan on using it enough to spend too much. I think the Woodturner's 3-Jaw Micro Chuck might be all I need except the jaws look like they would damage the shaft? Does anyone own the chuck? http://www.pennstateind.com/store/LCM18X.html It goes for $60 but doesn't say it's self centering, so I guess it's not? -- Jack Using FREE News Server: http://Motzarella.org http://jbstein.comlike |
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Check out this shop-made collet chuck.
http://www.davidreedsmith.com/Articl...olletChuck.htm Jr "Jack Stein" wrote in message ... I have an old, 1954 vintage Rockwell Delta lathe. I've been using it to put new tips on pool cues. To do this, I jam the cue shaft through the hollow head spindle and into a ball bearing steady rest I made. This works OK if I'm careful to wrap the cue shaft but is not ideal to say the least. What I would like to get is a thru chuck that fits a 1 x 8 spindle that I can tighten down on the cue shaft as it comes out of the spindle. I've never used a jaw chuck to turn anything, I always attach a hunk of wood to a face plate to mount bowls or spigots etc. Chucks are generally used to hold bowls or spigots and descriptions are not clear to me if they would hold something like this. I'm looking for a cheap solution, nothing fancy or expensive, but I'm not sure which chucks would work best to hold a thin (under 1/2") dowel threaded through the spindle? I'm looking at this one from Penn State tools: http://www.pennstateind.com/store/ec...aw-chucks.html I'm not sure this one would even work from the pictures, and I'd really like something even cheaper, but under $100 I guess is ok. It needs to be self centering as I don't want to fool around adjusting jaws. Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. -- Jack Using FREE News Server: http://Motzarella.org http://jbstein.com |
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"Jack Stein" wrote: Not that they're too long but to shape the tip you need the end of the shaft open. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Consider holding the big end at the spindle, and supporting the small end in some kind of a steady rest. It could be home made, out of plywood, using roller blade wheels. Since it is a dedicated application, you may be able to get by with minimal or no adjustments. |
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Rob wrote:
Check out this shop-made collet chuck. http://www.davidreedsmith.com/Articl...olletChuck.htm Thanks Rob, that looks like it would be perfect for my needs. Now I'm thinking maybe I should spring for collet chuck like this: http://www.pennstateind.com/store/LCDOWEL.html On the other hand now that I started looking around, maybe I should just buy a decent 4 jaw chuck in case I get back into making bowls and such... I'm still am not too interested in spending too much money... This "apprentice" chuck at CraftSupply (WoodTurners catalog) seems like a good bang for the buck one that would suit my needs? http://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/st... e_chuck?Args= Anyone have experience with this chuck or with Craft Supply, or any recommendations for a 4 jaw chuck? -- Jack Using FREE News Server: http://Motzarella.org http://jbstein.com "Jack Stein" wrote in message ... I have an old, 1954 vintage Rockwell Delta lathe. I've been using it to put new tips on pool cues. To do this, I jam the cue shaft through the hollow head spindle and into a ball bearing steady rest I made. This works OK if I'm careful to wrap the cue shaft but is not ideal to say the least. What I would like to get is a thru chuck that fits a 1 x 8 spindle that I can tighten down on the cue shaft as it comes out of the spindle. I've never used a jaw chuck to turn anything, I always attach a hunk of wood to a face plate to mount bowls or spigots etc. Chucks are generally used to hold bowls or spigots and descriptions are not clear to me if they would hold something like this. I'm looking for a cheap solution, nothing fancy or expensive, but I'm not sure which chucks would work best to hold a thin (under 1/2") dowel threaded through the spindle? I'm looking at this one from Penn State tools: http://www.pennstateind.com/store/ec...aw-chucks.html I'm not sure this one would even work from the pictures, and I'd really like something even cheaper, but under $100 I guess is ok. It needs to be self centering as I don't want to fool around adjusting jaws. Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. -- Jack Using FREE News Server: http://Motzarella.org http://jbstein.com |
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On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 09:19:32 -0500, Jack Stein wrote:
Rob wrote: Check out this shop-made collet chuck. http://www.davidreedsmith.com/Articl...olletChuck.htm Thanks Rob, that looks like it would be perfect for my needs. Now I'm thinking maybe I should spring for collet chuck like this: http://www.pennstateind.com/store/LCDOWEL.html On the other hand now that I started looking around, maybe I should just buy a decent 4 jaw chuck in case I get back into making bowls and such... I'm still am not too interested in spending too much money... This "apprentice" chuck at CraftSupply (WoodTurners catalog) seems like a good bang for the buck one that would suit my needs? http://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/st... e_chuck?Args= Anyone have experience with this chuck or with Craft Supply, or any recommendations for a 4 jaw chuck? No experience with their chucks, but I've been ordering from Craft Supply for years and they're very reliable and helpful.. Might as well get a chuck, you might decide to turn pine cue balls to mess folks minds up.. Maybe with a little side weight? mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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Hello Jack,
Since you want this chuck to perform a single task and you want to keep the cost to a minimum, I would suggest that you make a spring chuck. The cost will be a faceplate or a 1" x 8 tpi nut and a chunk of wood. I used to make these for special purpose uses quite often before I slowly accumulated a dozen or so chucks with different size jaws. I did an article on these chucks in the December 1996 issue of More Woodturning. If you want to go to my web site and find my e-mail address and send me an e-mail, I'll e-mail a PDF of the article to you. This can be used as a through chuck with the limit of the size being governed by the diameter of the hole through your headstock. Or you can make it up larger to hold a piece of wood which is then supported by a center steady so you can turn the end. In the early days of woodturning these were quite common and just had a metal ring that slipped over the outside of the chuck jaws to compress them onto the workpiece. I used a hose clamp or a metal ring, if I had one of the right size. Buy a sack full of 1" x 8 tpi nuts and make a number of these chucks to hold the tenons on various size pieces. It just takes a short time to make them and the cost is very low.I found them to work well to hold the stem for turning spinner tops or the dowel for a bottle stopper or basically any small round item up to 1" in diameter. Fred Holder http://www.morewoodturning.net On Nov 6, 7:49*am, Jack Stein wrote: I have an old, 1954 vintage Rockwell Delta lathe. *I've been using it to put new tips on pool cues. *To do this, I jam the cue shaft through the hollow head spindle and into a ball bearing steady rest I made. *This works OK if I'm careful to wrap the cue shaft but is not ideal to say the least. What I would like to get is a thru chuck that fits a 1 x 8 spindle that I can tighten down on the cue shaft as it comes out of the spindle. I've never used a jaw chuck to turn anything, I always attach a hunk of wood to a face plate to mount bowls or spigots etc. *Chucks are generally used to hold bowls or spigots and descriptions are not clear to me if they would hold something like this. I'm looking for a cheap solution, nothing fancy or expensive, but I'm not sure which chucks would work best to hold a thin (under 1/2") dowel threaded through the spindle? I'm looking at this one from Penn State tools: http://www.pennstateind.com/store/ec...aw-chucks.html I'm not sure this one would even work from the pictures, and I'd really like something even cheaper, but under $100 I guess is ok. *It needs to be self centering as I don't want to fool around adjusting jaws. Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. -- Jack Using FREE News Server:http://Motzarella.orghttp://jbstein.com |
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Thanks Fred. I was thinking of doing something like this with some 1x8
nuts rather than buying a tap. I have a number of face plates that I can use as well. I was I'll be in touch for the PDF file. Thanks again. -- Jack Using FREE News Server: http://Motzarella.org http://jbstein.com Fred Holder wrote: Hello Jack, Since you want this chuck to perform a single task and you want to keep the cost to a minimum, I would suggest that you make a spring chuck. The cost will be a faceplate or a 1" x 8 tpi nut and a chunk of wood. I used to make these for special purpose uses quite often before I slowly accumulated a dozen or so chucks with different size jaws. I did an article on these chucks in the December 1996 issue of More Woodturning. If you want to go to my web site and find my e-mail address and send me an e-mail, I'll e-mail a PDF of the article to you. This can be used as a through chuck with the limit of the size being governed by the diameter of the hole through your headstock. Or you can make it up larger to hold a piece of wood which is then supported by a center steady so you can turn the end. In the early days of woodturning these were quite common and just had a metal ring that slipped over the outside of the chuck jaws to compress them onto the workpiece. I used a hose clamp or a metal ring, if I had one of the right size. Buy a sack full of 1" x 8 tpi nuts and make a number of these chucks to hold the tenons on various size pieces. It just takes a short time to make them and the cost is very low.I found them to work well to hold the stem for turning spinner tops or the dowel for a bottle stopper or basically any small round item up to 1" in diameter. Fred Holder http://www.morewoodturning.net On Nov 6, 7:49 am, Jack Stein wrote: I have an old, 1954 vintage Rockwell Delta lathe. I've been using it to put new tips on pool cues. To do this, I jam the cue shaft through the hollow head spindle and into a ball bearing steady rest I made. This works OK if I'm careful to wrap the cue shaft but is not ideal to say the least. What I would like to get is a thru chuck that fits a 1 x 8 spindle that I can tighten down on the cue shaft as it comes out of the spindle. I've never used a jaw chuck to turn anything, I always attach a hunk of wood to a face plate to mount bowls or spigots etc. Chucks are generally used to hold bowls or spigots and descriptions are not clear to me if they would hold something like this. I'm looking for a cheap solution, nothing fancy or expensive, but I'm not sure which chucks would work best to hold a thin (under 1/2") dowel threaded through the spindle? I'm looking at this one from Penn State tools: http://www.pennstateind.com/store/ec...aw-chucks.html I'm not sure this one would even work from the pictures, and I'd really like something even cheaper, but under $100 I guess is ok. It needs to be self centering as I don't want to fool around adjusting jaws. Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. -- Jack Using FREE News Server:http://Motzarella.orghttp://jbstein.com |
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On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:49:19 -0500, Jack Stein wrote:
Thanks Fred. I was thinking of doing something like this with some 1x8 nuts rather than buying a tap. I have a number of face plates that I can use as well. I was I'll be in touch for the PDF file. Thanks again. I noticed that Penn State has a "Dowel chuck" for less than $100, with several collets... Couldn't tell from the picture (old catalog) if the collets were pass-through, but if so, it might work well for ya.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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mac davis wrote:
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:49:19 -0500, Jack Stein wrote: Thanks Fred. I was thinking of doing something like this with some 1x8 nuts rather than buying a tap. I have a number of face plates that I can use as well. I was I'll be in touch for the PDF file. Thanks again. I noticed that Penn State has a "Dowel chuck" for less than $100, with several collets... Couldn't tell from the picture (old catalog) if the collets were pass-through, but if so, it might work well for ya.. Yes, a collet chuck is exactly what I need. Penn state has one for $90 and the Beall Collet Chuck for which I found a review he http://www.newwoodworker.com/reviews...tchuckrvu.html Looks perfect, but costs $160. Now I'm thinking of making my own collet chuck out of wood and a few 1x8 nuts. Turning the collet should be easy enough, and a hose clamp would work well to tighten things up. Fred, I sent you an email for your PDF file on making a spring collet, but haven't received it yet. -- Jack Using FREE News Server: http://Motzarella.org http://jbstein.com |
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:35:36 -0500, Jack Stein wrote:
mac davis wrote: On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:49:19 -0500, Jack Stein wrote: Thanks Fred. I was thinking of doing something like this with some 1x8 nuts rather than buying a tap. I have a number of face plates that I can use as well. I was I'll be in touch for the PDF file. Thanks again. I noticed that Penn State has a "Dowel chuck" for less than $100, with several collets... Couldn't tell from the picture (old catalog) if the collets were pass-through, but if so, it might work well for ya.. Yes, a collet chuck is exactly what I need. Penn state has one for $90 and the Beall Collet Chuck for which I found a review he http://www.newwoodworker.com/reviews...tchuckrvu.html Looks perfect, but costs $160. Now I'm thinking of making my own collet chuck out of wood and a few 1x8 nuts. Turning the collet should be easy enough, and a hose clamp would work well to tighten things up. I made a simple "jam chuck" a few years ago, when my wife wanted a bunch of hair sticks.. I was using 1/2" diameter round stock, and used a piece of thick wall PVC tubing with slits, and sliding a key ring over it to tighten it down.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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That is a beautiful and expensive double angle collet set.
I use them on my metal lathe and Mill. They are overkill. I'd consider C5 collets if you can get a chuck. http://www.ecolletchucks.com/BISON/B...ET-CHOICES.htm Bison is a good name and rated for Steel - so it is true running. C5 has square and hex and round collets. There are many other sources and companies that sell these. Martin Jack Stein wrote: mac davis wrote: On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:49:19 -0500, Jack Stein wrote: Thanks Fred. I was thinking of doing something like this with some 1x8 nuts rather than buying a tap. I have a number of face plates that I can use as well. I was I'll be in touch for the PDF file. Thanks again. I noticed that Penn State has a "Dowel chuck" for less than $100, with several collets... Couldn't tell from the picture (old catalog) if the collets were pass-through, but if so, it might work well for ya.. Yes, a collet chuck is exactly what I need. Penn state has one for $90 and the Beall Collet Chuck for which I found a review he http://www.newwoodworker.com/reviews...tchuckrvu.html Looks perfect, but costs $160. Now I'm thinking of making my own collet chuck out of wood and a few 1x8 nuts. Turning the collet should be easy enough, and a hose clamp would work well to tighten things up. Fred, I sent you an email for your PDF file on making a spring collet, but haven't received it yet. |
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Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
That is a beautiful and expensive double angle collet set. I use them on my metal lathe and Mill. They are overkill. I'd consider C5 collets if you can get a chuck. http://www.ecolletchucks.com/BISON/B...ET-CHOICES.htm Bison is a good name and rated for Steel - so it is true running. C5 has square and hex and round collets. Thanks Martin. Fred sent me the PDF file and I think for now, I'll make some wood collets for this project. Later, I'll buy a regular 3 or 4 jaw chuck. Now all I need is some 1x8tpi nuts:-) -- Jack Using FREE News Server: http://Motzarella.org http://jbstein.com |
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