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[email protected] August 18th 06 04:20 AM

Using glue /water soup on punky wood
 

Back in april we had a discussion on trying to get punky wood to a
state where it could be turned reasonably.

I just then had a couple of bowls in the (glue/water) GW soup and was
going to give the outcome of that.
I almost forgot about that and already was finish turning the back side
of the last bowl when I remembered, and got my camera and made pictures
from the frond or top side that was still not turned and then from the
finished turned front and back, just as it came off of the tool.

I have the pictures posted on Wood Central, I like the picture posting
there better then on abwp, any way if you are interested than you can
have a look there.

The way I did the punky wood thing, was approx. as follows: rough
turned the wood with the least amount of roughness, then let the
turning dry for a couple of days, then immersed the turning in the GW
soup and kept it under with the help of a large rock for one day, after
that I let it dry till it was fully dried, and then finish turned it.

It feels nice, smooth and solid, I still have to sand it and finish it.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo


Ken Moon August 18th 06 02:25 PM

Using glue /water soup on punky wood
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

Back in april we had a discussion on trying to get punky wood to a
state where it could be turned reasonably.

I just then had a couple of bowls in the (glue/water) GW soup and was
going to give the outcome of that.
I almost forgot about that and already was finish turning the back side
of the last bowl when I remembered, and got my camera and made pictures
from the frond or top side that was still not turned and then from the
finished turned front and back, just as it came off of the tool.

I have the pictures posted on Wood Central, I like the picture posting
there better then on abwp, any way if you are interested than you can
have a look there.

The way I did the punky wood thing, was approx. as follows: rough
turned the wood with the least amount of roughness, then let the
turning dry for a couple of days, then immersed the turning in the GW
soup and kept it under with the help of a large rock for one day, after
that I let it dry till it was fully dried, and then finish turned it.

It feels nice, smooth and solid, I still have to sand it and finish it.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo


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Leo,
Sounds like a good process. What type glue are you using, and what is the
glue to water ratio? I have some wood here that may need something like
that, or else it may be fire wood.

Ken Moon
Webberville, TX.



ebd August 18th 06 03:22 PM

Using glue /water soup on punky wood
 
Leo,

Glue is notorious for being hard on edges (plywood, etc.). Did you
notice any of that, and if you did, was it mild or severe? This sounds
like a great idea. I wonder how it would work on wood that is not
punky but is prone to tear out.

Larry


Tom Nie August 18th 06 06:53 PM

Using glue /water soup on punky wood
 
Leo,

Tried searching with your email and name - no luck.
What's the title of the posting and date?

Thanks
TomNie

wrote in message
ups.com...

Back in april we had a discussion on trying to get punky wood to a
state where it could be turned reasonably.

I just then had a couple of bowls in the (glue/water) GW soup and was
going to give the outcome of that.
I almost forgot about that and already was finish turning the back side
of the last bowl when I remembered, and got my camera and made pictures
from the frond or top side that was still not turned and then from the
finished turned front and back, just as it came off of the tool.

I have the pictures posted on Wood Central, I like the picture posting
there better then on abwp, any way if you are interested than you can
have a look there.

The way I did the punky wood thing, was approx. as follows: rough
turned the wood with the least amount of roughness, then let the
turning dry for a couple of days, then immersed the turning in the GW
soup and kept it under with the help of a large rock for one day, after
that I let it dry till it was fully dried, and then finish turned it.

It feels nice, smooth and solid, I still have to sand it and finish it.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo




Tom Nie August 18th 06 07:01 PM

Using glue /water soup on punky wood
 
Disregard - found it.
TomNie

wrote in message
ups.com...

Back in april we had a discussion on trying to get punky wood to a
state where it could be turned reasonably.

I just then had a couple of bowls in the (glue/water) GW soup and was
going to give the outcome of that.
I almost forgot about that and already was finish turning the back side
of the last bowl when I remembered, and got my camera and made pictures
from the frond or top side that was still not turned and then from the
finished turned front and back, just as it came off of the tool.

I have the pictures posted on Wood Central, I like the picture posting
there better then on abwp, any way if you are interested than you can
have a look there.

The way I did the punky wood thing, was approx. as follows: rough
turned the wood with the least amount of roughness, then let the
turning dry for a couple of days, then immersed the turning in the GW
soup and kept it under with the help of a large rock for one day, after
that I let it dry till it was fully dried, and then finish turned it.

It feels nice, smooth and solid, I still have to sand it and finish it.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo




[email protected] August 18th 06 07:03 PM

Using glue /water soup on punky wood
 
Ken and Larry

I use white glue, and got it at Home Depot, one gallon can I think it
was, it's used for wood , paper, cardboard, leather etc., and I mixed
it 50/50 glue/water.

It does not make hard wood from soft wood, but fills punky soft wood
hard enough to turn just fine, but will still allow tool pressure to
show on the wood, it makes punky soft wood that you can poke your
finger into hard enough that you can't get a fingernail to make a mark.

I don't know if it will prevent tearout, as that is usually associated
with tool sharpness and presentation problems, like in wavy wood where
the undulating wood does make the right presentation of the tool more
or less impossible.

I also suspect that it will be very hard to get the GW soup to
penetrate the solid wood to any useful depth, but it would be useful to
find out, give it a try, what's to loose but a little glue and water
soup.

The biggest problem might be the finishing, as the oil finish I use
goes into the wood more readily than water and the problem of to much
oil comes into play, maybe a sealer would be the answer, but I'm not
very good at the finishing art, and always have kept to a simple way of
doing things.

As for the glue being hard on the tool, it just isn't the same glue as
used in the MDF or plywood etc., and I have not noticed anything at all
in that regard.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo



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